GodStoleMyFriends's picture

What Happened to the America I was taught about?

You wake up early one morning and begin your daily routine before work. You shuffle into the bathroom in a trance and toss water over your groggy eyes before draining your bodily wastes in the toilet. You then head into the kitchen and begin cooking yourself a hearty breakfast before you head off to your 9-5 job when suddenly you hear a knock at your front door. You slowly head towards it, confused at who would be visiting at such an hour. You are greeted by three men in very nice suits who inform you that you must come with them. Your monotonous life is about to take a turn. A turn towards something you never thought could ever happen in the United States of a America.

averyv's picture


in my last post i said

i find this site to be as much a threat to the individual as any other fundamentalist movement i have crossed.

i was asked in direct response

Superstition and ignorance cause suffering and death on a horrifying scale. What would you have us do about it? More importantly, what do you intend to do about it?

do superstition and ignorance cause suffering and death on a horrifying scale? the question supposes a cause for suffering and death, and then asks that i determine the solution based on the assumed cause. i cant really know what the individual who asked this wanted to find out with the question, but as far as i read it, it doesnt seem to be a very telling question. additionally i dont find the cause to be very accurate. but, just assume the assumption and ill answer the question anyway.

averyv's picture

freethought, freedom of thought, and why i dont care what you think

deposition with definitions:


Freethought is a philosophical doctrine that holds that beliefs should be formed on the basis of science and logical principles and not be comprised by authority, tradition or any other dogmatic or other belief system that restricts logical reasoning. The cognitive application of freethought is known as freethinking, and practitioners of freethought are known as freethinkers

freedom of thought

Freedom of thought (also called freedom of conscience 'and freedom of ideas') is the freedom of an individual to hold or consider a fact, viewpoint, or thought, regardless of anyone else's view.

Fishdontwalk have we decreated a creationist site?

On March 14th this year in the ninth episode of The Rational Response Squad radio show we hosted a creationist on our show named Bill Morgan who owns a website known as We brought Bill Morgan on the show because while in a discussion on a myspace Christian group someone posed Bills as an example of proof that evolution doesn't ocurr and that the answer to the problem of life is "god did it." With a brief look at Bills site we saw gaping holes and flaws, and knew right away that there was a ton of material to debunk. Yellow Number Five (Mike) got our science geeks on the case to debunk Fishdontwalk right away.

Here are some threads that examine and refute

YellowNumberFive and friends rip to shreds

About the first two laws of thermodynamics from Bob Spence

About the ozone hole from Bob Spence


LeftofLarry's picture

Neocons or Theocons and the spread of Jihad.

Ok, it's left of larry's rant time.

This administration continues to lie cheat and steal to propagandize an ideology that is completely and foundationally flawed. Their ideology is antithetical to the most foundational ideas of a free democracy and the United States Constitution. Thomas Jefferson and the rest of the great fathers are spinning in their grave.

Why do they do this then? The reason is simple. Money and Power. The ideologies of the neocons reside within a selfish, money driven system that uses religion, corruption, stealing, cheating and even murder to achieve what neocons percieve as the Straussian hegemonic wet dream. I am not communist, however, it is ironic to me that the staunchest neocons will tell me that communism will never work because of human nature's intrinsic inevitablity that it will be corrupted. Well guess what, corruption seems to be the standard in our system of governance and economy. Corruption...human nature....I say stop hiding behind cop outs and straw man arguments. I don't claim to have an answer, but at least be honest with yourselves.

Dissident1's picture

orgasms are bad but mutilation isn't?

The argument goes something like this: it is wrong to subject children to information about sexuality or to engage them in sexual activity, yet it is perfectly acceptable to take an infant male and mutilate his penis.

It was Queen Elizabeth that first presented the idea that there should be an age at which children should be kept from sexual activity. The reasoning had little to do with ideas of protecting the child from harm and nothing whatsoever to do with morality. The law was set forth to protect a fathers property so that he could obtain a good price when he sold his daughter into marriage. Thus the age of consent was set at ten, since girls were often sold into marriage when they reached the age of eleven.

Rook_Hawkins's picture


Prayer is the placebo that religion gives for an illness it created.

convert or deconvert?

Is deconvert a word?

Well lets look at the word in which it comes from, convert. wrote:
con‧vert  [v. kuhn-vurt; n. kon-vurt]
–verb (used with object)
1. to change (something) into a different form or properties; transmute; transform.
2. to cause to adopt a different religion, political doctrine, opinion, etc.: to convert the heathen.
3. to turn to another or a particular use or purpose; divert from the original or intended use: They converted the study into a nursery for the baby.
4. to modify (something) so as to serve a different function: to convert an automobile factory to the manufacture of tanks.

rationalmormon's picture

"Don't Pray In Our School & I Won't Think In Your Church"

"Don't Pray In Our School & I Won't Think In Your Church"

How can you stop some one from praying? That's like stopping some one from "swearing" in their mind. It doesn't bother anyone or make anyone feel better except themselves. Now, if you force your class to pray, then that's like forcing them to "swear".

Most everyone has words that offend them. For some it's a religious word. For some it's a sexual word.

Personally, I'm not going to stop anyone from saying anything. You can say your words and I'll say mine.

rationalmormon's picture

A short background

Well, I’ll tell you a quick story:

Last Saturday, I walked into 24-Hour Mexican food joint in Idaho. As I entered I heard a few hicks share a few comments about me with a few words that (I assume) were meant to be diminutives. As I walked past them again on my way out, I could tell they wanted a fight by the way they were half-whispering (half-yelling) words like “queer”. So as I opened the door for my friend, I turned to their table, waited for their attention, and then I pointed and winked at them.

As me and my friend were walking to the car (laughing quite boisterously) three of them came running out after us, but they were all talk. So I just gave them a little finger-twittling wave as I stepped into the car.

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