The New Atheist Crusaders and their quest for the Unholy Grail
Hey all. It's been a while since I've been on. I appologise, I've been busy.
The title of this forum is the title of a book I just finished reading. It's a catchy title, so I figured it'd be a good way to grab someone's attention on here. The book is written by Becky Garrison.
If her name doesn't sound familiar, that's fine, it shouldn't. So why am I wasting your time telling you about this book? Well, I'm glad you asked. This is a book written by a True Christian. HUH? For all of you who have discussed with me in the past, you understand what I'm talking about and for those of you who haven't you can research my blogs. Caposkia is my name.
Anyway, It's written from the viewpoint of how a true Christian feels about of course the atheists in the world today, but more importantly for you, how she feels about Christians in the world.
This is for all of you arguing with me about how Christians have to be black and white. How you have to follow a religion and there's nothing outside of religion etc. She touches on all of this. I truly think you'll enjoy reading this book and I would like to hear from those of you who have read it if anyone. If not, I"ll wait till someone finishes it. It's not a very long book.
When I first came onto this site, I wanted to discuss directly with those who were involved in the infamous television debate that RRS was involved in about the existence of God with Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron. They didn't have time and the other non-believers I came across were too opinionated to involve themselves in a conversation that made any progress. Instead I got into other debates which for the most part were a lot of fun, but I digress.
Becky mentions this debate as well in her book at the end. This is for all of you on here I've talked to who would not believe me or had other personal issues with the fact that my opinion didn't flow with their idea of a Christian. I will breifly say that I hold her viewpoint when she says that if she was at that debate, she would have "crawled out of that church in shame. "
Simply put, we both agree that both sides put forth deplorable excuses for their side and did not defend their side succesfully. I know I know, many of you will disagree and say that RRS did disprove the existance of God in that debate, but enough with the opinions, I'm saying the other side did just as good of a job proving God. This debate is a poor excuse to not follow Christ and this book talks about those types of Christians.
This book should clarify many misunderstandings of how True Christians are and I hope bring light to a new understanding of our following.
It is written differently than most books, but is an informational peice and uses a lot of researched information. It does focus on the "New Atheists" and is not a book preaching to the masses. As said, it is from the point of view of a True Christian.
enjoy, let me know your thoughts. I would also request, please be respectful in your responses. I'm here to have mature discussions with people.
Quote:Again, source please..... if you say the Bible then I think you need to reread it.
You already have the source. The bible is your comic book, not mine.
I'll just leave my previous quote in this post...
I have read it, you have read it too. The only difference is that I accept it as the comic book it is and you don't.
regardless of whether you think it's a comic book or not, right now you're telling me that tofu is Superman's weakness. I think you missed a few key aspects of the story
The head character "God" is a non material thinking entity despite the scientific fact that we know that thinking only happens in the context of biological evolution.
You can prove that? despite the proof of signalless communication? Yes, there are lab tests, look it up. As far as you know the only way we can detect thought is thorough a biological process... this in no way proves that thought requires biology. It's like me telling you that your favorite radio station is actually just built into every radio and not actually picked up by waves in the air. You'd have no means of proving to me that these waves exist except by the means of an instrument that can pick those waves up and turn them into something I can physically experience.
Bowled a strike
And that is even before you get to page one.
Genesis is the mother load of bullshit, by itself. Adult women popping out of a man's rib. The sun and moon being created more than once and on top of that being treated as separate sources of light.
What's the Hebrew word used in Genesis for "popping"? My Bible doesn't have that and I need to cross reference.
As far as the author was concerned, they were 2 separate sources of light... lemme give you any peice of information that's beyond your comprehension... and let's pretend for a moment you'd actually consider it important enough to write down, you're going to write it in a way that you can explain it and not the literal understanding of it. Same applies here.
Bowled 2 in a row, going for Turkey!
The only back peddle you have is metaphor "words don't mean what they mean", forgetting or willfully ignoring when that comic book was written by scientifically inept people.
Words don't mean what they mean? who said that... I'm telling you the English translation of the Hebrew words may not be the same, which loses contextual value at times depending...
In other words, for your second part.... the only way the bible can be fact is if it was written by scientifically inept people? Inept to what extent btw? To 20th/21 century standards? Who's living a fantasy world now?
TURKEY! brhm... that was a bowling reference... not actually calling you turkey... well... then again....
Then you try to use the claptrap of "metaphysics" as if it can be taught along side entropy and mitosis when you know damned well it is no where close.
so... only consider a narrow aspect of science to be fact... got it. Why discover truth... belief in your own understanding of life is much easier... I get it.
And then you ignore that if another claimant of another pet god used the same arguments you are trying to make here, you would RIGHTFULLY reject their pet god.
LIGHTS OUT! GAME OVER!
I love how you seem to think these are such slam dunk arguements... as if they first of all are congruent with everything I said (which they're not) or actually hold up if researched... nice try... play again?