The New Atheist Crusaders and their quest for the Unholy Grail
Hey all. It's been a while since I've been on. I appologise, I've been busy.
The title of this forum is the title of a book I just finished reading. It's a catchy title, so I figured it'd be a good way to grab someone's attention on here. The book is written by Becky Garrison.
If her name doesn't sound familiar, that's fine, it shouldn't. So why am I wasting your time telling you about this book? Well, I'm glad you asked. This is a book written by a True Christian. HUH? For all of you who have discussed with me in the past, you understand what I'm talking about and for those of you who haven't you can research my blogs. Caposkia is my name.
Anyway, It's written from the viewpoint of how a true Christian feels about of course the atheists in the world today, but more importantly for you, how she feels about Christians in the world.
This is for all of you arguing with me about how Christians have to be black and white. How you have to follow a religion and there's nothing outside of religion etc. She touches on all of this. I truly think you'll enjoy reading this book and I would like to hear from those of you who have read it if anyone. If not, I"ll wait till someone finishes it. It's not a very long book.
When I first came onto this site, I wanted to discuss directly with those who were involved in the infamous television debate that RRS was involved in about the existence of God with Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron. They didn't have time and the other non-believers I came across were too opinionated to involve themselves in a conversation that made any progress. Instead I got into other debates which for the most part were a lot of fun, but I digress.
Becky mentions this debate as well in her book at the end. This is for all of you on here I've talked to who would not believe me or had other personal issues with the fact that my opinion didn't flow with their idea of a Christian. I will breifly say that I hold her viewpoint when she says that if she was at that debate, she would have "crawled out of that church in shame. "
Simply put, we both agree that both sides put forth deplorable excuses for their side and did not defend their side succesfully. I know I know, many of you will disagree and say that RRS did disprove the existance of God in that debate, but enough with the opinions, I'm saying the other side did just as good of a job proving God. This debate is a poor excuse to not follow Christ and this book talks about those types of Christians.
This book should clarify many misunderstandings of how True Christians are and I hope bring light to a new understanding of our following.
It is written differently than most books, but is an informational peice and uses a lot of researched information. It does focus on the "New Atheists" and is not a book preaching to the masses. As said, it is from the point of view of a True Christian.
enjoy, let me know your thoughts. I would also request, please be respectful in your responses. I'm here to have mature discussions with people.
I started this site with a specific intention in mind... to start conversations... it has done its job... I know exactly what I wrote and why I wrote it... Are you trying to be a prophet? That is something that is gifted to you... you don't have that gift.
That is silly that you would accuse an atheist of trying to be a con artist which is what a "prophet' is. There has never been a human that can "see the future" through a deity tapping them on the shoulder.
Mohammad was a mere man who re wrote the bible. The Jews who started Christianity made up their own magical hero in the Jesus character. These claims of "prophets" are just as stupid and fictional as the "Oracles" mentioned in the Oedipus trilogies.
The motif of a "seer" was around in polytheism long before the gods of Abraham were invented. Neither Hebrews or Christians or Muslims invented the idea of "prophets". "Prophets" were merely humans who managed to take advantage of the credulity of the surrounding society so they could get and maintain power.
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Actually, I should correct myself. Quoting any holy book of any religion is self serving and circular reasoning. I'm just tired of seeing that one all the time.
There was nothing selfless about that STORY, and that is all it was. The alleged motif of morality in "sacrifice" is feigned. First off, it is just a parlor trick to gain attention to himself to get people to worship him. Secondly, he doesn't stay dead. The Allied invaders on D-day who died, stayed dead, they made a real sacrifice and they didn't do it for attention. How many of the D-Day dead can you name?
you are definitely an expert derailer. I'll give you that. can't just admit you were mistaken huh.
Morality isn't about attention seeking. Morality is doing the right thing even when no one is watching, even if you don't get famous or get rewarded. The whole publicity stunt in a fake suicide is all about him getting attention for himself.
The Bible tells you that about morality... Of course it was getting attention to Jesus, but was it for your reasoning or a greater one? If Jesus didn't get attention for what had happened to him, then the purpose of doing it would have been in vain because no one would have known he did it. The point was for people to know it happened. That's pretty obvious. You can make it a morality issue, but this was for everyone, plane and simple.
By your perspective, anyone who performs music for a crowd is vain because they did it to get attention... they must not have any passion for music and the music they're performing couldn't possibly be from the heart or true poetry. Not saying all artists are the same, but your pigeonholing.
THIRD, the act of forgiving is taken away from the individual as a choice and robbed from them by a third party without their consent or permission. It makes humans a mere pawn, lab rats for god.
it is your choice... you can choose to accept the gift understanding that you need forgiveness that is beyond your ability to achieve, or not. Nothing was robbed of anyone, unless you telling me that if I give you $100 dollars as a gift I'm actually robbing you. I guess this would be true if I had first taken the $100 from your pocket.
So morally and scientifically the story SUCKS.
All the stories one doesn't understand suck... unless you idealize your personal preferences into the story,.
I Star Trek, "DAMN IT JIM, I'M JUST A DOCTOR!" So does that make Klingons or Transporter's real?
John 3:16 is just as much a steamy pile to quote as any other verse in that book and no more evidence of your pet deity than when a Muslim quotes their Koran.
Congratulations. You've officially derailed the point that you made a mistake in reference and misread a quote. When really all you had to say was; "my mistake" and if you're so inclined, give your criticism about the verse I actually referenced to.