Priest says that victims are to blame for sex abuse

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Priest says that victims are to blame for sex abuse

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/nyregion/in-interview-the-rev-benedict-groeschel-says-abuse-victims-can-be-seducers.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&ref=todayspaper&adxnnlx=1346416113-+CPnTOBt5/RtfWIZ7W2ZWA

 

Priest Puts Blame on Some Victims of Sexual Abuse

 

A prominent Roman Catholic spiritual leader who has spent decades counseling wayward priests for the archdiocese provoked shock and outrage on Thursday as word spread of a recent interview he did with a Catholic newspaper during which he said that “youngsters” were often to blame when priests sexually abused them and that priests should not be jailed for such abuse on their first offense.

(The rest of the article is in the link. I am surprised that this has not gotten more national attention. This guy actually says the young kids were "seducing " the priests and first time offenders should not be jailed. Un- fucking believable).

 

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It's all well and good

It's all well and good criticising these paedophile priests, but surely some of the blame should be on the altar boys for being so damn sexy?

Spoof letter to British satirical Magazine Viz in 2009..

 

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GodsUseForAMosquito wrote:

It's all well and good criticising these paedophile priests, but surely some of the blame should be on the altar boys for being so damn sexy?

Spoof letter to British satirical Magazine Viz in 2009..

 

Poe's law in action.

 

LOL.

Yeah, everyone knows that all of those young altar boys wanted it, were asking for it and seduced these helpless old men that could not pray away their sexual repressions. Smiling

I don't understand why so MANY of these priests are going after young children.

EDIT : Thankfully enough, as a former Catholic, that is one type of thing that I was lucky enough to avoid, maybe I was not a cute enough altar boy ?

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Blaming the victim ??!!???!!!

GodsUseForAMosquito wrote:

It's all well and good criticising these pedophile priests, but surely some of the blame should be on the altar boys for being so damn sexy?

 

 Blaming the victim ??!!???!!!


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 ^ er no. Look up satire. 

 ^ er no. Look up satire. 


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harleysportster wrote:

GodsUseForAMosquito wrote:

It's all well and good criticising these paedophile priests, but surely some of the blame should be on the altar boys for being so damn sexy?

Spoof letter to British satirical Magazine Viz in 2009..

 

Poe's law in action.

 

LOL.

Yeah, everyone knows that all of those young altar boys wanted it, were asking for it and seduced these helpless old men that could not pray away their sexual repressions. Smiling

I don't understand why so MANY of these priests are going after young children.

EDIT : Thankfully enough, as a former Catholic, that is one type of thing that I was lucky enough to avoid, maybe I was not a cute enough altar boy ?

No Harly it wasn't that you weren't cute, you just didn't hang out in the right area. In your next life when you are a  youth, try hanging out at the Penn State Locker room. Maybe you could get lucky there.

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Well can you really blame

Well can you really blame the priest? The bible doesn't really talk about pedophilia.


http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html


And as you know if the bible doesn't say anything about it the religious man is confused. God didn't say it. I don't know what to do. That's good enough for me and I feel like a 12 year old.

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general comment . . .

danatemporary wrote:

GodsUseForAMosquito wrote:

It's all well and good criticising these pedophile priests, but surely some of the blame should be on the altar boys for being so damn sexy?

 

 general comment ..

Blaming the victim ??!!???!!!

  Sorry didnt direct that to the original OP's comments, as I should have.


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Of him mulling it over . . . .

ex-minister wrote:
Well can you really blame the priest? The bible doesn't really talk about pedophilia.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html

And as you know if the bible doesn't say anything about it the religious man is confused. God didn't say it. I don't know what to do. That's good enough for me and I feel like a 12 year old.

 

 From the little I know of the man. He is a universalist, the priest in question. Born a catholic and found his vocation directly out of middle school or high school,. For him there is a strong possibility of him mulling it over in his head. And the only logical conclusion, to his mind, is these men must have been seduced. How could you account for their involvement ?


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ex-minister wrote:Well can

ex-minister wrote:
Well can you really blame the priest? The bible doesn't really talk about pedophilia.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/pedophilia.html

And as you know if the bible doesn't say anything about it the religious man is confused. God didn't say it. I don't know what to do. That's good enough for me and I feel like a 12 year old.

Have you heard about the new Catholic confessionals? The windows are groin high.

 

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Brian37 wrote:No Harly it

Brian37 wrote:

No Harly it wasn't that you weren't cute, you just didn't hang out in the right area. In your next life when you are a  youth, try hanging out at the Penn State Locker room. Maybe you could get lucky there.

I'll pass on the pedophile experience.

Religion gave me enough childhood trauma without including that one.

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WOW

that is just crazy... pedophile priests are probably NAMBLA members


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No Harly it wasn't that you weren't cute, you just didn't hang out in the right area. In your next life when you are a  youth, try hanging out at the Penn State Locker room. Maybe you could get lucky there.

I'll pass on the pedophile experience.

Religion gave me enough childhood trauma without including that one.

You are so closed minded. Come on you know the saying "If there is grass on the field, play ball". LOL

In all seriousness though, being a former Catholic and lucky enough not to be an alter boy, I get ya. There was so much shit the Preacher quoted from the bible about hell and damnation and fear, not to mention there was a dead guy depiction  on a stick every Sunday selling death as a virtue, not to mention all the non religious bulling I got in high school, the thought of getting raped, male or female, at that age? No kid should have to go through that. Life sucks as it is without that horrible reality.

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GodsUseForAMosquito wrote:

It's all well and good criticising these pedophile priests, but surely some of the blame should be on the altar boys for being so damn sexy?

 

 Blaming the victim ??!!???!!!

Thats the entire God cop out right there, when we ask questions why bad shit happens to us, God says "It's your fault".

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New News .. Benedictine Father Groeschel, he has passed away

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