Sometimes, it be like that...

Louis_Cypher's picture

Some Guy on the Street: "Hey, you got a minute?"

You: "Sure, what do you need?"

Guy: "Well I'm just here to let you know, that because at some point in ancient history, one of your ancestors pissed off my Dad, (who's immortal and invisible), I must kick your ass daily at say, 4:00 PM for the rest of your life."

You: "That seems rather harsh..."

Guy: "Well yes, but Dad's word is law."

You: "Any way I can talk you out of this butt kicking?"

Guy: "Yes, but it will require you to hit me in the face with this shovel."

You: "Seriously?"

Guy: "Yes, seriously, it's the only way to get Dad to forgive you."

You: "But, in spite of the threat of a daily pummeling, you seem to be a nice enough guy, I don't WANT to hit you in the face with a shovel."

Guy: "It's Ok, you won't REALLY hit me in the face, I'll stand behind this light pole, and you close your eyes and swing."

You: "But, isn't that sort of cheating?"

Guy: "Nah, your eyes will be closed, who knows, you may get in a lucky shot."

You: "And that will do it, I mean, make your Dad forget about it?"

Guy: "Yes, that and you have to kiss my ass."

You: "Pardon?"

Guy: "Yep, I'll just drop trou' right here, and you plant a smooch on whichever cheek suits you."

You: "So, I maybe hit you in the face with a shovel then kiss your ass and your invisible Dad forgets about what my ancestor did to piss him off?"

Guy: "That about sums it up, Oh, and you have to go into one of those big buildings with the golden shovels on top once a week."

You: "I wondered what those were. But, Why?"

Guy: "So you can listen to another guy talk for hours about kissing my ass."

You: "And that's really it?"

Guy: "That, and you have to give him 10% of your salary off the top."

You: "Ok, this has gotten silly, I'm out of here."

Guy: "Hey, come back here, you OWE me after all, I took a shovel in the face for YOU."

 

Christianity: A disgusting middle eastern blood cult, based in human sacrifice, with sacraments of cannibalism and vampirism, whose highest icon is of a near naked man hanging in torment from a device of torture.

Brian37's picture

 Muslims have Friday, Jews

 Muslims have Friday, Jews have Saturday, and Christians have Sunday, what's you're dad's holy day? If I join your club is there going to be like some sort of giant shovel on the wall behind the alter?

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^Brian YET AGAIN accuses

^Brian YET AGAIN accuses someone without any rhyme or reason. He's so ridiculous.

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Brian37's picture

 You must have missed the

 You must have missed the word "shovel" and "hit" in his motif which is an act of violence. You also must have missed that he was attacking the "sins of the father" motif of Christianity. Oh you didn't. No you didn't, you know that and I know that. So there is nothing wrong with pointing out that the symbol of Christianity is an act of violence. And you know damned well all three of those books dipict acts of violence in any case. His point and I agree, which is also my point too, what is so good about using acts of violence to sell a religion? Because all three of those books use those literary devices to gain conformity, be the heros in them dipicted as the maryter or the Just hero defending themselves. 

"Look I let myself get hurt for you"

"I took one for the team"

"You owe me for things that happened before you were born, if you don't do what I say I will punish you forever"

Are not ideas designed to help the reader. They are the justifications of a dictator and abusive spouse or celebrity stalker "If I can't have you, no one can".

Oh and Luis here also did it with cuss words too, so why don't you jump on him too because we both know he is doing that promoting the forcable end of religion. 

All you have been doing this entire time since our falling out has been nothing but highschool bullshit becuase you don't like me disagreeing with you.

 

 

 

 

 

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 Not to metion the Jesus

 Not to metion the Jesus story isn't a "sacrifice" but more of a parlor trick. The soldiers of D-Day who died on the beaches didn't come back and will not be famous. The myth of Jesus's death in that story isn't about helping humans, it is written to glorify the dear leader.

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Brian37 wrote:You must have

Brian37 wrote:
You must have missed the word "shovel" and "hit" in his motif which is an act of violence.

Brian again demonstrates his incredibly poor reading comprehension skills.

Brian37 wrote:
You also must have missed that he was attacking the "sins of the father" motif of Christianity.

How in the world could Brian jump to so many false conclusions?

Brian37 wrote:
Oh you didn't. No you didn't, you know that and I know that. So there is nothing wrong with pointing out that the symbol of Christianity is an act of violence. And you know damned well all three of those books dipict acts of violence in any case. His point and I agree, which is also my point too, what is so good about using acts of violence to sell a religion? Because all three of those books use those literary devices to gain conformity, be the heros in them dipicted as the maryter or the Just hero defending themselves. 

In other words, Brian reread the op and suddenly comprehended that Louis was making a metaphor. A milestone has been achieved. Too bad it won't stick.

Brian37 wrote:
"Look I let myself get hurt for you"

"I took one for the team"

"You owe me for things that happened before you were born"

Are not ideas designed to help the reader. They are the justifications of a dictator and abusive spouse or celebrity stalker.

Oh and Luis here also did it with cuss words too, so why don't you jump on him too because we both know he is doing that promoting the forcable end of religion. 

All you have been doing this entire time since our falling out has been nothing but highschool bullshit becuase you don't like me disagreeing with you.

Aaaaand it's gone. We are back to the typical fallacy fest speckled with lies and hypocrisy.

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 You are one dense

 You are one dense motherfucker.

The MOTIF was an attack on the idea of "sacrifice" and "sins of the father" "If you don't do this I will punish you". There is also an element of the fallacy of "free will" in it too where the guy asks "Is there any way I can get out of this". 

Much like a wife can avoid getting hit if she choses not to upset the abusive husband by doing what he says.

Not to mention this con also causes people to fill the collection plate on top of that. 

Hitting someone with a shovel is an act of violence, I do not give one fuck who is doing what to who. Acts of violence in holy books are metaphors used to glorify the god and get you to join the gang. 

He is clearly attacking the Abrahamic god motif. 

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Brian37 wrote:You are one

Brian37 wrote:
You are one dense motherfucker.

Brian, the densest motherfucker in the history of the site, doesn't get it.

Brian37 wrote:
The MOTIF was an attack on the idea of "sacrifice" and "sins of the father" "If you don't do this I will punish you". There is also an element of the fallacy of "free will" in it too where the guy asks "Is there any way I can get out of this". 

Brian thinks I didn't understand the OP.

Brian37 wrote:
Much like a wife can avoid getting hit if she choses not to upset the abusive husband by doing what he says.

Not to mention this con also causes people to fill the collection plate on top of that. 

Hitting someone with a shovel is an act of violence, I do not give one fuck who is doing what to who. Acts of violence in holy books are metaphors used to glorify the god and get you to join the gang. 

He is clearly attacking the Abrahamic god motif. 

Yada yada yada. Brian still doesn't get it. He never will.

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Yea, I wrote the motif about

Yea, I wrote the motif about a guy being blamed for things that happened before born. Must have been me that wrote the OP. I am Louis too. Obama sank the Titanic too.

Must be some good shit you are smoking.

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 Luois wrote:Christianity:

 

Luois wrote:
Christianity: A disgusting middle eastern blood cult, based in human sacrifice, with sacraments of cannibalism and vampirism, whose highest icon is of a near naked man hanging in torment from a device of torture.

Louis wrote that, not me, I agree with him. I find it vile to use acts of violence to sell religion, not that any religion is required at all. 

 

 

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Brian37 wrote:Yea, I wrote

Brian37 wrote:

Yea, I wrote the motif about a guy being blamed for things that happened before born. Must have been me that wrote the OP. I am Louis too. Obama sank the Titanic too.

Must be some good shit you are smoking.

Brian makes shit up.

Brian37 wrote:
Louis wrote that, not me, I agree with him. I find it vile to use acts of violence to sell religion, not that any religion is required at all. 

Brian posts another red herring/strawman combo. I never once misquoted him.

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Vastet wrote: Brian posts

Vastet wrote:

Brian posts another red herring/strawman combo. I never once misquoted him.




unlike a certain other poster here, who misquotes somebody at least once a week...

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson

Brian37's picture

 Nope no "red harrings" or

 Nope no "red harrings" or "strawmans"

Only morons like you refusing to accept that antiquated comic books that dipict violent acts are used by people to justify horrible acts on others.

Please be stupid and deny that the bible has no dipictions of violent acts. And please stupidly claim the OP isn't refering to the concept of religion at all.

Let me sum up all the bullshit arguments you have made since our falling out.

 

Me, "religion is poison"

Morons, "You are just as bad as those you condemn"

Me, "NO FUCKWADS, attacking bad ideas is attacking the idea, NOT HUMAN RIGHTS"

Morons, "Shit happens, they like it, it is pretty to them, leave them alone"

Me, "IN WHAT FUCKING CONTEXT?"

 

Now I am sorry it bothers you that I cut through the crap and simplify reality. TOO FUCKING BAD.

 

You want to colddle old bullshit claims, go ahead. I only value the right to make the claim, I am under no fucking legal obligation not to respond to old claims anymore than you are legally obligated to only respond nicely to me.

 

RELIGION, EVERY FUCKING RELIGION IN HUMAN HISTORY Is man made. It has no other value than people like them. The human right to make any claim you want IS NOT MY FUCKING ISSUE DIPSHITS!

 

Buddha was dipicted as prince, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Jesus was not a magic baby, GET THE FUCK OVER IT, Jews are not the chosen people GET THE FUCK OVER IT. There are no Hindu gods, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Thor didn't make lightening either. 

NONE OF THAT BLASPHEMY is a call to end religion, and you fucking hypocrits don't attack others like Penn who say "fuck faith" which is not the same as saying "hate the faithful" which neither he or I would say.

YOU ASSHOLES are merely mad because I didn't follow you and kiss your asses. You are nothing but childish brats.

Now when I say "I am not your enemy" that does not mean I am accusing you of bullying me nor am I playing victim. It merely means WE ARE NOT LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO LIKE EACH OTHER. No I don't want to be your friend anymore than you want to be mine.

But by all means, keep it up, the more scrutiny religion gets by outsiders reading this the better off the world will be. But if your going to try to paint me as being anything more than being blunt you are spinning your wheels.

We are the same species fuckwads, you and me and Bin Ladin, and Hitler and Marx and Ghandi and Ayn Rand, friend and foe alike, and we all came from the same stardust, extending from the same big bang, and there will be no record of any of us after our species goes extinct.

What should matter to you fucking chidish dipsits isn't someone you don't like personally like me, or even what you think I am getting wrong. WHAT SHOULD fucking matter to you are the distractions religions cause and the violence they cause, and the real problems like pollution and poverty and climate change.

NO instead you think one person, me, out of a planet of 7 billion is so fucking important. YOU STUPID FUCKING DIPSHITS.

You are not protecting anything but your own fucking egos. Now no one is asking you to give one shit about me or like me. SO grow the fuck up!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and nonbelievers."Obama
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iwbiek's picture

yup, reality readily lends

yup, reality readily lends itself to simplification by the stupid and the insane.

iwbiek's picture

here's what really

here's what really happening:


dumbass brian: X is bad because of Y.


rational contributors: X may well be bad, but Y is invalid.


dumbass brian: STOP DEFENDING X!!!

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
--Hunter S. Thompson

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 NO fuckwadX=is the idea of

 NO fuckwad

X=is the idea of old books being patent holders of universal behaviors.

X=using old books that were written for the people BACK THEN that have to do with their gap filling morality BACK THEN.

WE KNOW BETTER NOW YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

X isn't because of Y..........X  leads to Y you moron! 

Lev, "If man lies with a man" leads to bigots condemng gays. The Koran leads people to slam planes into buildings.

BECAUSE fuckwads like you refuse to see that the morality isn't in the book, and that lets them think it is.

Our species morality is in US YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

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 x=old books making

 x=old books making morality claims=people read them=people act on them= leading to the INVALID Y of =arrest gays=slam planes into buildings.

"Not everyone does that" IS BULLSHIT and is what the left does in coddling the violent fucks. You are the moron on the well intended left that allows the world's religions to give cover to bad claims. 

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iwbiek wrote:yup, reality

iwbiek wrote:
yup, reality readily lends itself to simplification by the stupid and the insane.

Yes because sanity is thinking an old bronze age book written by goat hearders who didn't know any better is still valid today. Just like a hero being born of a prince makes success divine. 

I will only give those in the past the benefit that they didn't know any better when they concocted that bullshit back then. But we know better now.

You might as well believe in a invisible sky hero yourself.

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 "Religious people are

 "Religious people are capable of being moral" NO SHIT, and religious people are also capable of being immoral. Which should tell human beings that our behaviors are in US, not old books or traditions written in an ignorant past.

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Brian37 wrote:Nope no "red

Brian37 wrote:
Nope no "red harrings" or "strawmans"

Brian lies.

Brian37 wrote:
Only morons like you refusing to accept that antiquated comic books that dipict violent acts are used by people to justify horrible acts on others.

Brian lies some more.

Brian37 wrote:
Please be stupid and deny that the bible has no dipictions of violent acts. And please stupidly claim the OP isn't refering to the concept of religion at all.

Brian pretends people are actually arguing this, despite the fact that noone has said anything of the sort. In other words, Brian keeps lying.

Brian37 wrote:
Let me sum up all the bullshit arguments you have made since our falling out.

Brian is about to lie again.

Brian37 wrote:
Me, "religion is poison"

Morons, "You are just as bad as those you condemn"

Me, "NO FUCKWADS, attacking bad ideas is attacking the idea, NOT HUMAN RIGHTS"

Morons, "Shit happens, they like it, it is pretty to them, leave them alone"

Me, "IN WHAT FUCKING CONTEXT?"

Called it.

Brian37 wrote:
Now I am sorry it bothers you that I cut through the crap and simplify reality. TOO FUCKING BAD.

Brian still doesn't get it.

Brian37 wrote:
You want to colddle old bullshit claims, go ahead. I only value the right to make the claim, I am under no fucking legal obligation not to respond to old claims anymore than you are legally obligated to only respond nicely to me.

Brian lies some more, adding red herrings.

Brian37 wrote:
RELIGION, EVERY FUCKING RELIGION IN HUMAN HISTORY Is man made.

Brian thinks someone is suggesting otherwise.. Maybe Brian is hallucinating.

Brian37 wrote:
It has no other value than people like them

Brian demonstrates his ignorance again.

Brian37 wrote:
The human right to make any claim you want IS NOT MY FUCKING ISSUE DIPSHITS!

Brian lies some more.

Brian37 wrote:
Buddha was dipicted as prince, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Jesus was not a magic baby, GET THE FUCK OVER IT, Jews are not the chosen people GET THE FUCK OVER IT. There are no Hindu gods, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. Thor didn't make lightening either. 

Brian drops some more red herrings.

Brian37 wrote:
NONE OF THAT BLASPHEMY is a call to end religion

Brian forgets he specifically stated he wanted to eliminate theists, and thinks that pulling the good old faux news strategy of deflection will work. But it doesn't even work for faux news, and the people running faux news are much smarter than Brian is.

Brian37 wrote:
d you fucking hypocrits don't attack others like Penn who say "fuck faith" which is not the same as saying "hate the faithful" which neither he or I would say.

Brian thinks I wouldn't attack Penn's position if he said something I disagreed with. That makes me laugh heartily.

Brian37 wrote:
YOU ASSHOLES are merely mad because I didn't follow you and kiss your asses. You are nothing but childish brats.

Brian still doesn't get it.

Brian37 wrote:
Now when I say "I am not your enemy" that does not mean I am accusing you of bullying me nor am I playing victim. It merely means WE ARE NOT LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO LIKE EACH OTHER. No I don't want to be your friend anymore than you want to be mine.

Brian doesn't understand that his constant irrational, illogical, and hypocritical posts are what makes him an enemy of all humanity. Just like every other theist blowhard.

Brian37 wrote:
But by all means, keep it up, the more scrutiny religion gets by outsiders reading this the better off the world will be. But if your going to try to paint me as being anything more than being blunt you are spinning your wheels.

After all this time and a direct promise to continue attacking Brian, he thinks I need encouragement. I don't.

Brian37 wrote:
We are the same species fuckwads, you and me and Bin Ladin, and Hitler and Marx and Ghandi and Ayn Rand, friend and foe alike, and we all came from the same stardust, extending from the same big bang, and there will be no record of any of us after our species goes extinct.

What should matter to you fucking chidish dipsits isn't someone you don't like personally like me, or even what you think I am getting wrong. WHAT SHOULD fucking matter to you are the distractions religions cause and the violence they cause, and the real problems like pollution and poverty and climate change.

NO instead you think one person, me, out of a planet of 7 billion is so fucking important. YOU STUPID FUCKING DIPSHITS.

You are not protecting anything but your own fucking egos. Now no one is asking you to give one shit about me or like me. SO grow the fuck up!

Yet another clusterfuck of blatant lies, ridiculous fallacies, incredible stupidity, and simple hypocrisy. As were the next four posts he wrote.

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