Post "nightline" musings
We had tried to have this conversation in chat last night but the lag was horrible. Anyway, watching the debate it was clear that while Brian and Kelly made some moderate mistakes which are normal to people new to debate...the match was a slaughter and Ray and Mikey, er Kirk...were left bleeding and wounded.
So what happened when Nightline condensed and packaged the story for national TV? Many things to be expected and some not. First, the understory became about Kirk Cameron, his website, his career. When it came time to introduce Comfort, he was only mentioned briefly. Then, when Mentioning sapient, he set the tone early..."Runs the so called Rational Response Squad". This is a disparagement, pure and simple. Why?
Then, we are shown clips of the debate that are designed to lead the viewer to believe that there was actually a match. No deer in the headlight moments, no obvious audience support towards RR, nothing...just a run of the mill Debate. Next, we are told "the were no clear winners". WTF??????????? There was, as anyone who has EVER been around any debate activity knows, a clear winner. WOTM had a premise, that they could prove scientifically that god exists, and to that end they failed miserably and embarassingly. One would have to ask why Bashir would spin it like this???
After the debate, we are treated to signs of Shrill Friel and Sapient arguing outside, etc. T he scenes shown of the atheists seem disorganized and confrontational. Then we are shown Cameron calmly saying he hoped that something happened to change Kelly and Brian because he cared about them. Then this "EVEN the atheists seemed concerned about the tone..."
Even the atheists? Try that with "even the blacks, Jews,Catholics,protestants, etc. Nightline was showing their cards...again.
Then we are shown Bashir, comfort and Cameron sitting comfortably backstage and Bashir commenting that their work was "thankless". Comfort was making excuses, and Cameron, with his hair tossed, his frustrated look on his face, and his lack of ability to coherently comment, looked like someone just beat him up for his lunch money.
So why would Nightline spin the debate like this? A quick perusal of Wiki's page on Bashir......
He worked for the BBC until 1999 on programmes including Songs of Praise, Public Eye and Panorama and then he joined ITV, working on special documentary programmes and features for Tonight with Trevor McDonald. Bashir has also appeared in the film Mike Bassett: England Manager, where he played himself. He is a devout Christian.
So Bashir had a hidden agenda it seems.
Bashir was also accused of spinning the Michael Jackson intervew, leaving out pertinent information and statements.
what does Bashir's countrymen think of him?
And so it goes in the world of being an atheist. Even when you get invited to a debate and embarrass the competetion, hands down demonstrating that the affirmative could not even begin to demonstrate their case...the debate is spun into a draw, the atheists are accused of being nasty, and the national television network doesn't even try to impartially judge the event.
Congratulations anyway to Brian and Kelly. The debate was a one sided slaughter, You made us proud, and I am sure you will learn from this encounter as you move forward.