Demon children killed?

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Demon children killed?

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I just keep finding this

I just keep finding this stuff happening just so crazy... isn't the maternal instinct or mother-child link supposed to be one of the very most strongest link in nature?


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munky99999 wrote: I just

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I just keep finding this stuff happening just so crazy... isn't the maternal instinct or mother-child link supposed to be one of the very most strongest link in nature?

Any instict can be drowned out with frequent conditioning.

God-fear is a powerful conditioning tool.                 

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jcgadfly wrote: munky99999

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I just keep finding this stuff happening just so crazy... isn't the maternal instinct or mother-child link supposed to be one of the very most strongest link in nature?

Any instict can be drowned out with frequent conditioning.

God-fear is a powerful conditioning tool.

Oh I understand that well. It just boggles my mind that they could get that much power despite the evolutionary effect of this. 


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munky99999 wrote: I just

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I just keep finding this stuff happening just so crazy... isn't the maternal instinct or mother-child link supposed to be one of the very most strongest link in nature?

 

Yeah, but sometimes people are just crazy. Koo-koo! 

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Just out of curiousity. Why

Just out of curiousity. Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?


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North00 wrote: Just out of

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Just out of curiousity. Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?

Her "obvious mental illness" could have been because she was a parnoid due to the dead children she was hiding.  Paranoia, fear.

Her delusion of demons and possession would likely be pinned on something form her faith.  Though until that determination is made, neither is really fair to postulate (illness or religion).

It's very easy to pin religion into these things because religion is often the cause of the delusion. 


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North00 wrote: Just out of

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Just out of curiousity. Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?

Do you mean why put a loaded weapon within reach of the mentally ill ?

Do you mean to ask why would the "indoctrinated" act out in ways that reflect this indoctrination ?

Were the 19 terrorists who killed thousands of innocent victims and themselves in the U.S. mentally ill ?

Were the multiple millions of people in history who have killed others simply because they held a different religious belief mentally ill ?

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North00 wrote: Just out of

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Just out of curiousity. Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?

U speak as if they are exclusive...

 do you think a buddhist would ever do this? Nope.


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North00 wrote: Why blame

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Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?

 

While it's possible that if she had had no theistic beliefs at all she may have still "seen" her children as deserving of death. You can't over look the fact that the bible is chock full of rediculous stories that totally mesh with what she did.

Her god delusion is merely stronger, harder to align with reality than your typical delusional theist.

 

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I used to watch Little

I used to watch Little House on the Prarie (don't ask) until the episode where Caroline was just about to cut her leg off when Charles rushed in.

The plot was this - she got a small cut, the family left for the weekend while she stayed home to bake pies for the church fundraiser, the cut became infected and she became septic.  During this period of sepsis she opened the bible on the 'if your arm causes you to sin, cut it off' part and so she started sterlizing the knife. 

I know it's just a show but I can't come up with another chain of events which would of had her going down this same path without the biblical reading. 

 


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North00 wrote: Just out of

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Just out of curiousity. Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?

"Banita Jacks was charged with four counts of first-degree murder after reportedly telling investigators that the children were possessed by demons and died in their sleep." - Article posted

Where else would someone(psychotic or not) get the idea of demon possession if not for religion? 

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munky99999 wrote: North00

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Just out of curiousity. Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?

U speak as if they are exclusive...

 do you think a buddhist would ever do this? Nope.

 Actually, Buddhists engaged in human sacrifice up until the 1850's and Buddhists and Tamils routinely attack each other even now in Sri Lanka.

What gets me about this case is no one entered the home to check the welfare of the children.  California law allows police or CPS workers to enter without a warrant even if they have to force entry.  Don't know if DC does or not.

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Bulldog wrote: munky99999

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munky99999 wrote:

North00 wrote:
Just out of curiousity. Why blame her religion instead of her obvious mental illness?

U speak as if they are exclusive...

do you think a buddhist would ever do this? Nope.

Actually, Buddhists engaged in human sacrifice up until the 1850's and Buddhists and Tamils routinely attack each other even now in Sri Lanka.

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I'm sorry but that certainly doesn't have demons involved.

Furthermore... it's actually the pre-buddhist religions who did the human sacrifice(as this increases suffering not decrease). When buddhism swept through the area... the people didnt all stop doing the human sacrifice. Moreover... when these people were caught.... they were punished with lashings and such. 

As for the buddhists vs tamils or chogeye vs chogeye... this is all just alpha male fighting,  Nothing special here... we are discussing a single person doing something nuts.


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Yeah I'm from DC and

Yeah I'm from DC and people are still talking about this like crazy. The mother must've been mentally ill...still so sad. The oldest girl went to the HS right under where my old high school was located -_-.

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They were such pretty little

They were such pretty little girls too.....smh...... CPS is worthless.