As a "newbie" here, I really find it funny when posters - on both sides of the issue - toss around words like "proof" (as if we were discussing an episode of CSI.!).
If I have 3 apples and I add another 4 apples to my collection, I have 7 apples. That's a point we can all agree on.
I'm a Catholic - but if somebody challenged me to prove my belief in God, I couldn't. You're self-professed athiests - could you prove that you don't believe in God..??
I'm a father of 3 young daughters - do I love my daughters ?? Yes - of course, I do - but could I prove it..??
Of course not.
But here's a simple challenge - prove to me that you're an athiest..!!