morality and religion

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morality and religion

We are at the heat of debate regarding Reproductive Health Bill, im the the anti-rh side, any comment and input to this:

The rejection or disregard of morality and religious belief is at the core of corruption.

thanks in advance.
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Ummm...

If you don't support reproductive freedom for women to make up their own minds about what they do with their bodies, then you are no better then a fascist, as it makes you just as much of a misogynistic, patriarchal asshole. Women are not the property of men, no matter how many idiotic religions try and promote that stupid tripe. You have no other reason to take this anti-choice position other then factually incorrect religious texts, that still exist and hold people's minds, because their founders murdered anyone who spoke out against their illogical and savage bullshit for long enough to build a movement based on their self-serving lies.

iznubadd wrote:
The rejection or disregard of morality and religious belief is at the core of corruption.

Umm... evidence please? Making that claim is factually idiotic, as it begs the question "who's morality" and the it doesn't deal with the fact that religion has been one of the most corrupt forces ever created by humans, in that it fights against ANY adjustments of it's positions based not on dogma but on evidence.

What give's you the right to legislate over someone else's body? Some ancient book of myths and superstition? Bullshit.

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"And if the 2 bishops

"And if the 2 bishops (Bishop Bastes and Bishop Odchimar) mentioned in the Philippine Star News, Friday, February 4, 2011,p.8, explicitly stated: “We bishops are willing to be imprisoned together with our priests and protest the immoral things “, then I will express the same mind- imprison me and my students."

LOL !

This is funny. If only the pedo-bishops and priests were just as "willing to be imprisoned".

 


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 Is that link a virus?

 Is that link a virus?  Anyone??

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Sapient wrote: Is that link

Sapient wrote:

 Is that link a virus?  Anyone??

Not that I can tell. It goes to an article/blogpost.


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The rules and commandments

The rules and commandments of religion are mostly a corruption of morality, which is naturally based on empathy for others, the desire to minimize avoidable and unnecessary harm and distress to others, and to assist them where possible, so as to foster a caring and cooperative society.

Demanding and teaching that there should be punishment for victimless crimes, that women, children and servants are the property of the ruling caste of men, is part of the abomination that is particularly a feature of the main Abrahamic 'faiths'.

 

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B166ER wrote:If you don't

B166ER wrote:

If you don't support reproductive freedom for women to make up their own minds about what they do with their bodies, then you are no better then a fascist, as it makes you just as much of a misogynistic, patriarchal asshole.

Actually there are anti-abortion atheists(BTW, I'm not one of them):

http://www.godlessprolifers.org

 

It is quite possible to come to this position entirely through reason. It's not just a woman doing something to her body, it usually involves a doctor or nurse. Seems like the state should take on the role of deciding what medical procedures are acceptable. Otherwise all drugs and all surgeries should be legal.

Also this leftist view that we're all responsible to raise 'our' children makes no sense. If I have no say in women having or not having as many kids as they want, why am I responsible to pay for their kids or their abortions?

The rational position to take is to have a social contract to limit family sizes in exchange for a social safety net to provide benefits while getting education/job training. If people don't want to abide by such a contract, they should be on their own, don't pay for their kids or their abortions. Either have mandatory family planning or else just let nature control population via poverty, war and disease.

 

 

B166ER wrote:

Women are not the property of men, no matter how many idiotic religions try and promote that stupid tripe.

Are men the property of women? If society is going to force men to pay for a women's choice, shouldn't we have a say in what that choice is? Why can't I decide to not pay for the choices of women like the octomom?

 

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Sapient wrote: Is that link

Sapient wrote:

 Is that link a virus?  Anyone??

mousing over it it looks like a typical virusy* url.

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Sapient wrote: Is that link

Sapient wrote:

 Is that link a virus?  Anyone??

Nah, goo.gl is a site that shortens links, the random characters after that aren't evil, just short.
It links to some article (presumably about the OP's subject?).


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thanks a lot

thank you for the inputs....

the link is not a virus... google shorter url service.... (goo.gl)