Your not the only one...

Dont look to far into it though, we tend to just chalk it up as our resident eccentric ^_^

  SO .... God is a little hard to understand ??? , beer sometimes helps ! 

So, you basically have no evidence?

Logic is a system of reasoning. It relies on proper thinking to arrive at correct conclusion. Logic has to have a base from which that particular type of thinking is derived.

Is your thinking logical in the broad spectrum? NO

Is your thinking logical based on the bible? YES

You present a logic based argument using outdated logic derived from scripture. That is why your argument is doomed to failure. Your logic is based in a supernatural world full of God’s and ghosts. The problem is that in the real world we have no evidence for God, ghosts, vampires, unicorns, etc. When you base logic on fantasy and try to use that logic against real world evidence you make yourself look like an idiot.

You have no evidence; you have an argument based on flawed logic. You claimed evidence of God so either show us the evidence or open a fucking book and learn something (try non-fiction this time).

 What is my evidence God does not exist? I never said God does not exist.  I acknowledge that science does not know what happened before the big bang. I acknowledge it could have been a creator. But I give the creator theory just as much value as the theory that we were created in a beaker in some science lab. Just because I do not know the answers I do not make shit up and call it an answer. 

OK.

We will be waiting breathlessly for the actual evidence to which you apply your logic.

You have yet to  provide any actual substantive arguments, which is why you may have detected some impatience in the responses here...

Funny you would say that you see truths in my signature that correspond to what you see in the bible and yet state that those truths you hold aren't spelled out in that exact manner(the quote is from Epicurus). You are admitting that each persons interpretation may be a bit different, do you feel yours is the only right interpretation? I have to laugh about your metaphor statement and the truth that can't be caught at a glance...so metaphors are truth? Or lets go back to my first sentence, they are truths only to the mind that considers them truths? And BTW, the bible was the most exciting book I read as a child, as a teen and as an adult. My eagerness to find answers was paramount only to catching butterflies, getting my drivers license and drinking beer(all in order of age) so to question whether I read the bible based on the fact that I didn't "find the truth" that you did isn't logical.

Adding to fulltimedefendent's list of bullshit Atheists do not believe in:

I believe I speak for all atheists when I say

We do not believe the Earth is flat and sits on pillars.

We do not believe the earth is covered by a magic dome with lights called stars affixed to the dome.

We do not believe the Sun revolves around the Earth.

We do not believe that the moon emits light.

Hw was quoting me and answering my question.... or his crazy, both make sense.

You didn't answer the rest of the questions.  I suppose to answer them would put you in the position of having to admit that there are mistakes in the bible. And these aren't little mistakes. They are HUGE mistakes. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

And...what? You've never looked up at the sky? You've never noticed the change of light during the day? You never looked at the photographs of the earth taken from the moon or satellites?

You seem to be confused about the words "truth" and "fact".

Sorry for doubting you..

Well if you could prove it that would be remarkable,but what do you mean by "A small element of faith."?  Are you saying we will need faith to accept your proof?

Thank you for your post..

I don't know how to do the quote clipping, I'm not so computer savvy.  But you said in your last post, 

"You are admitting that each persons interpretation may be a bit different"

I'm not sure if this is meant to be a question or a statement. If it is meant to be a statement, then I'll have to rebut, and say that I never made such a claim. If its meant to be a question, then my response is yes, each persons interpretation may be a bit different.

And because of this I am convinced that my interpretation is the correct one. Like those things that you are convinced of, they stem from some substantial evidence. Well so do the things that I am convinced of. And its correctness does not stem from my interpretation of it, but rather the evidence that begets it. So when you ask, 'do you feel yours is the only right one' I refuse to answer that question. The interpretation is not 'mine' as though I made it up. It is 'mine' insofar as I promote the evidence used to affirm its accuracy.

And as far as your final words in that post go,

"so to question whether I read the bible based on the fact that I didn't "find the truth" that you did isn't logical."

You're correct it isn't logical. But nor is it illogical. The reason one has for asking a question doesn't have to be concerned with logic. One usually just asks a question to get an answer.

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Not this shit again.  This is where the person runs away and never returns with what they promised to deliver.  I've seen it a hundred times.

Challenge accepted. You now have 3-4 days to provide evidence for that which people have been unsuccessfully seeking to prove for millenia. I look forward to Friday.

What would Jesus say if he knew you were betting with money (not that I actually think you'd pay up, much less admit you're wrong) on your own god's existence? Keep in mind, the burden of proof is DEFINITELY on you. You're the one offering up money over a largely anonymous web forum. That's hardly rational, is it?

I'm rather looking forward to Friday now.But if he had proof god exists,wouldn't he sell it to the news instead of telling one little site? Doesn't he want as many people as possible to hear the 'good news'?

I do love the biblical truths, because the biblical truths were used to commit atrocious crimes against jews throughout the centuries because the truth of the jews was in the bible, that they were Jesus killers (except jesus was a jew, but lets not get the facts in the way for metaphorical truths and stories right) or to keep slaves in the south (again it was alright in the bible and god said it to be fine therefore it is true men can be kept as slaves) even through today we find it morally reprehensible.

The great thing about truth in the bible is that it changes from decade to decade and from century to century. It never really stays the same throughout history because it is up to interpretation. Of course you would have to have bothered with history to know this.