We're garnering attention in a Church
I asked for the name of Church and the Pastor... I'd like a public debate.
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From: Steve-Ho! Rise Against All Odds, Take Back Control
Date: Sep 21, 2006 11:41 AMha dude me and my brother had to go to church (stupid court thing for spay painting an anarchy sign on a church van) but this church talked about you guys. i was like DUDE! i have them on my myspace. and they did a crappy job of stealing your guys Badge and putting there crap down. "You dont believe in god? We Can Fix That!" i was like dude these people suck RRS rules.
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First of all , I am glad to hear you admit that vandalism is a stupid thing to do.
They are probably talking about us because for far too long most people in this country lived by the notion that they had to respect everyone's religion. Says who? Why should I show respect to a fairy tale that a large number of people believe? I respect their right to believe anything the choose but not the thing itself. We expose their nonsense here on a daily bais and they many people are visiting this site. There nonsene doesn't fare too well when we expose it, so they get upset.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Seneca
wait..the court ordered you to go to church? They can't do that....maybe community service..but they forced you to go to church?
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Directly ordering one to church, as punishment / rehabilitation by a court is endorsement of a religion...illegal right??
What if attending church services was on a list of options??
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I'd contact the ACLU. They love to fight this kind of fight.
http://www.aclu.org/
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Seneca
Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. And wouldn't that be a copyright violation?
They way I would fight this though is a simple "I just want them to stop doing it." If you ask for money people will just paint it as just a lawsuit to get a quick buck.
That kinda goes for RRS and the kid. I would think it would be fine to have the kid clean up around the church for awhile, but I would think if would be fine if a kid had to clean up around someone's house for egging it or something.
They above email says they had to go to church due to a judges order. It doesn't say clean up around it (which would have been constitutional). Forcing someone to sit through an indoctrination service is akin to mental abuse.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. - Seneca
well yes mental abuse is bad which was why I'm saying someone one might want to sue
But cleaning up your mess and working off your damage isn't that bad of a deal. I thought that was kind of the idea behind community service.