Exxon-Mobile knew about human caused climate change back in the 1970's, funded denier propaganda

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Exxon-Mobile knew about human caused climate change back in the 1970's, funded denier propaganda

Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in Global Warming Decades Ago

Top executives were warned of possible catastrophe from greenhouse effect, then led efforts to block solutions.
BY NEELA BANERJEE, LISA SONG AND DAVID HASEMYER
SEP 16, 2015

At a meeting in Exxon Corporation's headquarters, a senior company scientist named James F. Black addressed an audience of powerful oilmen. Speaking without a text as he flipped through detailed slides, Black delivered a sobering message: carbon dioxide from the world's use of fossil fuels would warm the planet and could eventually endanger humanity.

"In the first place, there is general scientific agreement that the most likely manner in which mankind is influencing the global climate is through carbon dioxide release from the burning of fossil fuels," Black told Exxon's Management Committee, according to a written version he recorded later.

It was July 1977 when Exxon's leaders received this blunt assessment, well before most of the world had heard of the looming climate crisis.

Full article: http://insideclimatenews.org/news/15092015/Exxons-own-research-confirmed-fossil-fuels-role-in-global-warmiing

Lol this is big tobacco all over again.


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It doesn't surprise me if

It doesn't surprise me if this is actually 100% true.


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It doesn't surprise me if

And it is these type of people I don't mind see suffer but we all know they were too busy snorting coke of the tits of some stripper.


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digitalbeachbum wrote:And it

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And it is these type of people I don't mind see suffer but we all know they were too busy snorting coke of the tits of some stripper.

Snorting coke off of strippers tits is a perfectly respectable occupation. My only question is why the fuck anyone would expect an oil company to hasten their own demise. They have no responsibility to do so. 

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Beyond Saving wrote:

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digitalbeachbum wrote:

And it is these type of people I don't mind see suffer but we all know they were too busy snorting coke of the tits of some stripper.

Snorting coke off of strippers tits is a perfectly respectable occupation. My only question is why the fuck anyone would expect an oil company to hasten their own demise. They have no responsibility to do so. 

Your right, but it is also an ignorant point of view to be self destructive.

 


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If they'd kept doing what

If they'd kept doing what they started off with they not only wouldn't have hastened their demise, they would have become a super-powered pioneer in the shift away from fossil fuels. Doing what they did as of the mid 80's will be far more likely to hasten their demise. Now they're going to be facing massive lawsuits, and that's just from shareholders. Consumer confidence will suffer greatly, and inevitably class action lawsuits will fuck them up hard. Because they doubled down instead of adapting, they are going to fail.

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The scientific consensus in

The scientific consensus in 1970s was that global cooling was the big crisis and we were headed for an ice age:

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html

Also that there would be no more oil available anywhere on earth:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1930/

Why should anyone believe this global warming hoax? It is all to make money for the 'scientists' that promote the hoax and to push a global socialist agenda.

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EXC wrote:The scientific

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The scientific consensus in 1970s was that global cooling was the big crisis and we were headed for an ice age:

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html

Also that there would be no more oil available anywhere on earth:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1930/

Why should anyone believe this global warming hoax? It is all to make money for the 'scientists' that promote the hoax and to push a global socialist agenda.

Misinformation and lies courtesy of the resident psychopath. Thank you come again!

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Vastet wrote:EXC wrote:The

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The scientific consensus in 1970s was that global cooling was the big crisis and we were headed for an ice age:

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html

Also that there would be no more oil available anywhere on earth:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1930/

Why should anyone believe this global warming hoax? It is all to make money for the 'scientists' that promote the hoax and to push a global socialist agenda.

Misinformation and lies courtesy of the resident psychopath. Thank you come again!

Got to send those psychopaths to the guillotine, that'll show em.

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Typical idiotic response.

Typical idiotic response. Thank you come again!

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EXC wrote: The scientific

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The scientific consensus in 1970s was that global cooling was the big crisis and we were headed for an ice age:

http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html

Also that there would be no more oil available anywhere on earth:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1930/

Why should anyone believe this global warming hoax? It is all to make money for the 'scientists' that promote the hoax and to push a global socialist agenda.

There is supposed to be a mini ice age in Europe in 15 years, 2030, but the data given concerning the sun was repeated by the media and sensationalized causing the public to become dumb.

The data shows that the solar output would be .01% here on earth rather than 60% stated by the media. The actual data shows there would be a 60% drop on the sun's output peak during an 11 year cycle. Far different than 60% here on earth. Then the green house gases would diminish that .01% even more.

There was some other talk about the Atlantic currents being disrupted but no one is sure what will happen. In maybe 20 years there will be a mini-ice age in Northern Europe only. Dropping temperatures as much as 18 degrees.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/

I find that if the flow of the waters decrease this will cause more problems than just a change in temperature. 


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Vastet wrote:Exxon's Own

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Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in Global Warming Decades Ago Top executives were warned of possible catastrophe from greenhouse effect, then led efforts to block solutions. BY NEELA BANERJEE, LISA SONG AND DAVID HASEMYER SEP 16, 2015 At a meeting in Exxon Corporation's headquarters, a senior company scientist named James F. Black addressed an audience of powerful oilmen. Speaking without a text as he flipped through detailed slides, Black delivered a sobering message: carbon dioxide from the world's use of fossil fuels would warm the planet and could eventually endanger humanity. "In the first place, there is general scientific agreement that the most likely manner in which mankind is influencing the global climate is through carbon dioxide release from the burning of fossil fuels," Black told Exxon's Management Committee, according to a written version he recorded later. It was July 1977 when Exxon's leaders received this blunt assessment, well before most of the world had heard of the looming climate crisis. Full article: http://insideclimatenews.org/news/15092015/Exxons-own-research-confirmed-fossil-fuels-role-in-global-warmiing Lol this is big tobacco all over again.

NO SHIT, and doesn't surpise me one bit. The same industry took forever to get lead out of gas. Took Nader to make cars safer too.  Tobacco companies drug their feet and hid the dangers too. The NFL did the same thing with head injuries. And scientists knew this in the late 1800s. But when you say it, it is right. I am anti private sector when I say it.

I cant even agree with you without you throwing a fucking fit like a baby.

 

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And it is these type of people I don't mind see suffer but we all know they were too busy snorting coke of the tits of some stripper.

Snorting coke off of strippers tits is a perfectly respectable occupation. My only question is why the fuck anyone would expect an oil company to hasten their own demise. They have no responsibility to do so. 

You fucking idiot......... No shit, you own a business you want to keep it going. NO FUCKING SHIT.

 

You can also sell Jack Danials, but just not to 5 year olds. You don't get it. Business cannot be left unchecked anymore than a relgion or political party. It would be wise that when humans understand that something they make is damaging humanity on a golbal scale, THAT FUCKING AFFECTS US ALL.

You need to stop thinking like Han Solo because nobody is trying to take away your Falcon for simply saying there is a Death Star we need to worry about. 

That is the fucking problem with no regulation, business owners don't think about the impact on the planet. YES THEY  FUCKING DO have a responsibility. You fuck up OUR planet, you lose your buyers YOU FUCKING MORON.

Bill Gates agrees with me, on top of unbias climate change scientists. Big oil has no fucking right to endanger our entire species to make a buck. Making money does not have to involve endangering our species.

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Brian37 wrote: You can also

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You can also sell Jack Danials, but just not to 5 year olds. You don't get it. Business cannot be left unchecked anymore than a relgion or political party. It would be wise that when humans understand that something they make is damaging humanity on a golbal scale, THAT FUCKING AFFECTS US ALL.

I get it perfectly fine. Which is why I don't expect any entity to act against its self interest. Innovation will come from their competition, and that is okay. You don't call a plumber when you need heart surgery and you don't get mad at a plumber for not inventing better methods for heart surgery. If you want to get moralist about it, focus on the consumers. Corporate morality will mirror the morality of their consumers. (Or lack thereof)

 

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That is the fucking problem with no regulation, business owners don't think about the impact on the planet. YES THEY  FUCKING DO have a responsibility. You fuck up OUR planet, you lose your buyers YOU FUCKING MORON.

They have as much responsibility as you. What have you done to help humanity solve this problem?

 

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Bill Gates agrees with me, on top of unbias climate change scientists. Big oil has no fucking right to endanger our entire species to make a buck. Making money does not have to involve endangering our species.

Good for Bill Gates. He has a fortune, if he wishes to pour billions into whatever is going to be a viable replacement for oil, let him. It is far more likely that the tech field led by Tesla, Google and Uber are going to solve problems than the oil industry, which is going to go the way of cable and see billions in value evaporate. Rather than whine about problems and people who aren't solving them (and have the least incentive to do so) look to those who have something to gain from solving them. Whether Exxon gets involved or not isnt going to make a radical difference, there are plenty of companies looking for solutions and more money than ever going into it. Or better yet, do something useful with your life and do some solving yourself. I am invested in stock of some companies doing radical research in alternative energy, what are you doing Saint Brian?

 

Oil hardly "endangers our species". Even the worst case scenarios are perfectly survivable for humans and actual data has shown the more conservative models have been more accurate. Thouth if you truly believe it is the end of the species at stake, you are a pretty lowlife scum for not dedicating your life to alternative energy.

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Well we already knew he was

Well we already knew he was lowlife scum, tbh. Sticking out tongue

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By Karen Graham     47

By Karen Graham     47 mins ago in Environment
Through the concerted efforts of the Koch brothers and ExxonMobil, the American public has been spoon-fed so much misinformation about climate change, they have polluted the main stream media and created two warring camps in the climate change debate.
An analysis of 20 years worth of data by Yale University researcher Dr. Justin Farrell shows without a doubt that ExxonMobil and Koch brothers foundations were behind the formation of climate denial echo chamber organisations.
The research, published in the Proceedings of the National Academies of Science (PNAS), details the connection between corporate funding and the creation of messages that create doubt about the science of climate change and whether humans are responsible in any way.

Full article:
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/environment/climate-change-truth-vs-doubt-spread-by-corporate-funding/article/450548

Of course the corporate patsy/fool EXC will continue to deny the obvious truth, but he and those like him are almost completely irrelevant now. The ball is rolling and the liars are being exposed. World governments have accepted reality and are working on solutions to the problems. Sucks to be on the losing side though, and psychopathic retards never admit when they are wrong, so we'll continue to laugh at those who would stick their heads in the sand and let the world go to hell.

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Vastet wrote:Typical idiotic

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Typical idiotic response. Thank you come again!

I was mocking you, but you are to dumb to realize that.

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 Climate change is now in

 Climate change is now in every way just like a religious cult, including indoctrination of the young:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/schoolroom-climate-change-indoctrination-1432767611

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/30/opinions/sutter-obama-climate-change-cop21-two-degrees/index.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2922553/Global-warming-believers-like-hysterical-cult-MIT-scientist-compares-climat...

How the fuck is a 6 year old able to make up his own mind on climate change? Calling a 6 year old a climate activist is like calling a 6 year old a Christian child. Total bullshit.

 

So these protesters and politicians all got on jets that pumped out tons of CO2, to tell me I need to be concerned about climate change. OK so fucking reduce the human population and start funding climate engineering projects. Oh, I forget these are taboo subjects at the climate conference, it is only raise my taxes and reduce my freedom  worldwide socialism up for discussion.

But I got to hand it to the Climate change cultists. When it turns out that climate change is not a threat, they pat themselves on the back for saving the planet just by flying around the world to protest, then on to the next crisis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4

"The planet is fine, people are fucked."

 

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More bullshit from the

More bullshit from the corporate shill who simply can't or won't comprehend reality. All your links lead to lies spread by the Koch brothers and Exxon-Mobile. All the true science shows you are wrong.

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