Atheist discrimination in politcs
Posted on: November 9, 2012 - 8:02pm
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Atheist discrimination in politcs
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We both knew that, but I think he's looking for a specific case of Joe Blow atheist running for office and then shot down because of his atheism.
i.e an example of those laws being enforced, or an atheist being withheld office because they were atheist.
I believe every time some one has tried to enforce those laws they have been shot down. You can not tell some one "you can't run for office because you are a <insert religion here>.
I can tell you on a personal level that it does happen all the time. 17% of the voting population fall under the "none" catigory as far as religion. Now while even that includes simply people who don't go to church it still includes flat out atheists. We outnmber Jews.
Yesterday I mentioned that 70% of the "nones" voted for Obama. That is well over the margin of difference between Obama and Romeny in the popular vote alone. So theists have the non religious to thank for that Obama win on top of all the other minorities as well and equally as important. When I mentioned this fact to my fellow liberal Obama supporter, she blew a gasket as if I had no right to claim we had anything to do with the outcome, and all the sudden "seperation of church and state was important to her". NO SHIT.
And depending on what state you live in the state constitution despite the federal constitution and the supremacy clause and "no religious test" have language mandating an oath to god or a god. The meme of swearing an oath to hold office requiring a god is the unfortunate majority. It is hard to track lots of times just like in "the right to fuck the employee state". A employeer can fire you for being the wrong religion and or wrong political party and simply lie and say you did a bad job and it would be hard to prove depending on cercumstances.
But it isn't about atheists alone. When Muslim senator Keith Elleson swore in on a Koran instead of a bible Christians threw a fit.
You can quite easily test peoples "tollerance" by being open. Most people who are liberal are up until you compete or are open. It is not to say that that is not changing, I think it is and for the better. But while I have lots more in common as an atheist with blacks and Latinos in acceptance of diversity, even they fear the "godless".
If you want to test the fear of the atheist especially in a Southern state, run for office and see how far you get.
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which i think is funny since, religiously speaking, he wouldn't be bound by an oath sworn on a book he didn't believe to be holy. so what, christians want a politician who, in his own estimation, isn't sworn?
"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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