Wikipedia “Jesus as myth” article.
What are people’s views as to the quality of the article? It clearly seems to have a negative view of the Jesus mythicist position.
For example, other than Josephus, in the section on non-Christian reference to Jesus, we get references to the fact that Christians existed, and no one is disputing that.
Nowhere in the article does it seem to get the point that had Jesus the god-man existed, as per the gospels, we would have ample references and information about him. Simply discovering a human Jesus refutes the Jesus of the gospels.
For instance, how could Josephus have had knowledge of Jesus as per the gospel accounts and yet not convert to Christianity? If he did have knowledge of a Jesus, he clearly didn’t have knowledge as per what the gospels suggest he would have had - knowledge of a crowd drawing, miracle working, god-man. So suggesting that Josephus, a Jew, knew of Jesus is a refutation to the claims of the gospels!
It’s humorous to see people, especially Christians, think that they’re “halfway there” if they at least get a human Jesus!
Moving on, the article seems to conclude that the Jesus Myth has been refuted:
”Presently, New Testament scholars and historians consider the question as resolved in favour of Jesus' historicity, that is, that the weight of historical evidence suggests that Jesus of Nazareth was an actual person rather than a composite of more than one person or a completely made-up myth.”
Overall, the unhistoricity theory is regarded as effectively refuted by almost all Biblical scholars and historians.
”The nonhistoricity thesis has always been controversial, and it has consistently failed to convince scholars of many disciplines and religious creeds. ... Biblical scholars and classical historians now regard it as effectively refuted.”
15. ^ a b c Van Voorst, Robert E (2000). Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence (Studying the Historical Jesus). Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 16. ISBN 978-0802843685.
Now I’ve no problem with the idea of a human Jesus later being embellished and ‘supernaturalised’, but has the Jesus mythicist position really been refuted, as this article suggest.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring" -- Carl Sagan