Milky Way's black hole to eat space cloud mid-2013

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Milky Way's black hole to eat space cloud mid-2013

The colossal black hole at the center of our Milky Way galaxy will soon to get a big, tasty meal, astronomers say. A humongous gas cloud is on a collision course for the Milky Way's core — the home of Sagittarius A*(pronounced "Sagittarius A-star") which scientists suspect is a supermassive black hole with the mass of 4 million suns. When the huge gas cloud arrives in the vicinity, which it will appear to us to do in mid-2013, it will surely be swallowed up by the hungry black hole, scientists say.


Astrophysicist Stefan Gillessen of the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Munich Germany, has been observing the Milky Way's center for about 20 years. So far, he's seen only two stars come as close to Sagittarius A* as the cloud will.

"They passed unharmed, but this time will be different: the gas cloud will be completely ripped apart by the tidal forces of the black hole," Gillessen said in a statement.

The cloud is due to pass within about 36 light-hours (about 25 billion miles, or 40 billion kilometers) of the black hole. Its speed, which is now more than 5 million mph (8 million km per hour), has nearly doubled in the last seven years as it approaches its doom. It has already started to shred, and is likely to break up completely before it hits the black hole.

While black holes themselves are impossible to see — they are objects whose gravitational pull is so strong, even light cannot escape — astronomers can watch what happens when matter falls into one. The areas around some active supermassive black holes are so bright, in fact, that they are visible across the universe. Scientists are looking forward to the rare chance to see something fall into our own galaxy's black hole. As it falls nearer and nearer, the cloud is expected to heat up and release bright X-ray radiation that should be visible from Earth. The collision-bound cloud was discovered by a team of astronomers led by Reinhard Genzel at the European Southern Observatory.


http://www.space.com/16388-milky-way-black-hole-eats-cloud.html

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W and O and W!Reading stuff

W and O and W!

Reading stuff like this is far more interesting than stupid ancient comic books.

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Yes. We need to clear our

Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes.
Me and this dumb degree in theology. Wasted time.

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ex-minister wrote:Yes. We

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Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes. Me and this dumb degree in theology. Wasted time.

 

Well, you wasted your time believing it, yes. But to be a good chess player, you need to know the moves of your rival, having been on that side at one time, makes you a much better atheist. So no, you did not waste your time. It only would have been a waste if you had never gotten out of it.

Consider yourself a well educated deprogramer. Having been on that side, those still there cant pull any shit on you because you know the same things they do. And we are certainly glad you have that information. Sucked that you had to believe to get there, but now you are putting that to good use.

 

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Brian37 wrote:ex-minister

Brian37 wrote:

ex-minister wrote:
Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes. Me and this dumb degree in theology. Wasted time.

 

Well, you wasted your time believing it, yes. But to be a good chess player, you need to know the moves of your rival, having been on that side at one time, makes you a much better atheist. So no, you did not waste your time. It only would have been a waste if you had never gotten out of it.

Consider yourself a well educated deprogramer. Having been on that side, those still there cant pull any shit on you because you know the same things they do. And we are certainly glad you have that information. Sucked that you had to believe to get there, but now you are putting that to good use.

 

I totally agree with Brian on that. 

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Brian37 wrote:

ex-minister wrote:
Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes. Me and this dumb degree in theology. Wasted time.

 

Well, you wasted your time believing it, yes. But to be a good chess player, you need to know the moves of your rival, having been on that side at one time, makes you a much better atheist. So no, you did not waste your time. It only would have been a waste if you had never gotten out of it.

Consider yourself a well educated deprogramer. Having been on that side, those still there cant pull any shit on you because you know the same things they do. And we are certainly glad you have that information. Sucked that you had to believe to get there, but now you are putting that to good use.

 

I totally agree with Brian on that. 

Depending on the particular degree, it may be useful.  My former S-I-L (of blessed memory), had a M.Div and I believe she worked as a counselor.

The problem with a lot of theology degrees (and theologies ...) is that they focus more on Hell and less on Life On Earth.  If I had a M.Div or D.Div and ran off and became and Atheist, I'd be looking at the "social worker" professions.  Especially since the clergy ideally =should= be concerned about "social work".  Not that many of them are ...

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Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes. Me and this dumb degree in theology. Wasted time.[/quote

of faulty interpretations rather then throw the whole thing out. Consider the source of the info. There" may be nothing wrong with the book-the interpretors may be faulty. Try again.

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ex-minister wrote:
Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes. Me and this dumb degree in theology. Wasted time.[/quote

of faulty interpretations rather then throw the whole thing out. Consider the source of the info. There" may be nothing wrong with the book-the interpretors may be faulty. Try again.

I'm happy it's happening, that blasted cloud is blocking the view.

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harleysportster wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

ex-minister wrote:
Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes. Me and this dumb degree in theology. Wasted time.

 

Well, you wasted your time believing it, yes. But to be a good chess player, you need to know the moves of your rival, having been on that side at one time, makes you a much better atheist. So no, you did not waste your time. It only would have been a waste if you had never gotten out of it.

Consider yourself a well educated deprogramer. Having been on that side, those still there cant pull any shit on you because you know the same things they do. And we are certainly glad you have that information. Sucked that you had to believe to get there, but now you are putting that to good use.

 

I totally agree with Brian on that. 

Depending on the particular degree, it may be useful.  My former S-I-L (of blessed memory), had a M.Div and I believe she worked as a counselor.

The problem with a lot of theology degrees (and theologies ...) is that they focus more on Hell and less on Life On Earth.  If I had a M.Div or D.Div and ran off and became and Atheist, I'd be looking at the "social worker" professions.  Especially since the clergy ideally =should= be concerned about "social work".  Not that many of them are ...

that theologians know much at all about God. Wasn't the knowledge of God lost in the fall of Adam. If it was lost then they can't possibly know. That's why they are still theologians. If they actually knew then there wouldn't be theologians. Thenwise, as long as there's theologians ---they don't know. Think about that. Your time wasn't wasted- you merely spent a lot of time finding out they are wrong. You completed step one.

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ex-minister wrote:Yes. We

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Yes. We need to clear our palate every so often and scrape the shit off our shoes.

now an observation from the peanut gallery...

 

 

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Old Seer wrote:Consider the

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Consider the source of the info. There" may be nothing wrong with the book-the interpretors may be faulty. Try again.

the book is faulty, the commentaries are faulty, every fucking thing a human makes, including his god, is faulty.  the knowledge of that is the only thing that isn't faulty.

btw, if you took any time to actually try to get to know ex a bit, rather than seeing him as another mark for your divine con, you'd know he's spent his life "trying again" a fuck load more than most of us.  you fucking try again.

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We don't need to try anymore

iwbiek wrote:

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Consider the source of the info. There" may be nothing wrong with the book-the interpretors may be faulty. Try again.

the book is faulty, the commentaries are faulty, every fucking thing a human makes, including his god, is faulty.  the knowledge of that is the only thing that isn't faulty.

btw, if you took any time to actually try to get to know ex a bit, rather than seeing him as another mark for your divine con, you'd know he's spent his life "trying again" a fuck load more than most of us.  you fucking try again.

We have it correct.

You've got complaints--then you find a solution. Don't just wimper and bawl---tell us what's wrong in the world. How can it be fixed/corrected. What you've demonstrated here is eggszakly what's wrong with it. Temper tantrums detract/subtract from one's intellect. You've got to be smarter then you exhibit. Try again. If you use the word human then be one, and/or find the difference between human and animal. Do that, and you've got the answer. Hate goes nowhere. When ii interjected "try again" I meant -- keep searching for the answer. It wasn't meant as a negative.

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Old Seer wrote:We have it

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We have it correct.

uh-huh.  get in line with that assertion, pal.

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You've got complaints--then you find a solution.

i do.  i'm a high school teacher.  i spend every day training my kids to be politically active secular humanists, and to question everything, especially those who claim to have the answers (and i believe those answers simply don't exist).  sometimes it actually takes hold, too.

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Don't just wimper and bawl---tell us what's wrong in the world. How can it be fixed/corrected.

we do it all the time.  what's wrong is religion and irrational thinking.  what we try to do is contain it through education.  that is my career, in fact.  what i do here is nothing more than a hobby.

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If you use the word human then be one, and/or find the difference between human and animal.

"human" is a construct made up by our particular species.  there is no essential difference between "us" and "them."  still, it's a useful construct, since to date no other species yet possesses the capability to eradicate the entire biosphere.  this construct consists of empathy and altruism, which i hammer into my students' heads year after year.  also, a healthy dose of realism goes along with it.  

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Hate goes nowhere.

if you think i'm showing hate toward you, you really do think a lot of yourself. 

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When ii interjected "try again" I meant -- keep searching for the answer. It wasn't meant as a negative.

and i'm saying that just because ex has decided to leave behind a millennia-old dead book and a bunch of ideas about a fictional sky-daddy doesn't mean he's stopped searching for "the answer."  on the contrary, he has clearly progressed far beyond the level of those who persist in clinging to fables as somehow purer expressions of truth than what is before our five senses.

more than that, regardless of your intent, your remark came from an imagined position of superiority.  who are you to give advice?  what makes you think you know more than ex, a man who is facing--and has faced before--a debilitating, potentially fatal disease with an incredible amount of courage and introspection, all of it without the crutch of self-indulgent fantasy?  i'm sorry, but were i facing the possibility of a slow, painful death, i think i'd find your prating on about looking for supposed "answers" a wee bit trivial.

or, to paraphrase the prajnaparamita, "samsara is fucking nirvana and nirvana is fucking samsara.  dipshit."

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The one I'm using now it's covered up
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That is really interesting

That is really interesting ex-minister, I look forward to reading about the observations of those watching the gas cloud being consumed.

I've always been fascinated by black-holes, especially the supermassive one that is likely at the center of our galaxy.

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