New property of flame found

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New property of flame found

ScienceDaily (June 7, 2012) — Chemists at UCL have discovered a new property of flames, which allows them to control reactions at a solid surface in a flame and opens up a whole new field of chemical innovation.
Published in the journal Angewandte Chemie, authors of the new study have discovered their previous understanding of how flames interact with a solid surface was mistaken. For the first time, they have demonstrated that a particular type of chemistry, called redox chemistry, can be accurately controlled at the surface.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120607122313.htm


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It is amazing that fire is

It is amazing that fire is both so common and yet at the same time so mysterious. Alan Alda like many of us had a fascination with fire as a youngster. He recently had a contest for anyone who could explain fire to an 11 year old.

Here is the website

http://flamechallenge.org/

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ex-minister wrote:It is

ex-minister wrote:

It is amazing that fire is both so common and yet at the same time so mysterious. 

I know how to explain fire " It's GOD and MAGIC ! "  Smiling

 

Sorry couldn't resist the humor. I just know that every time science breaks into a new frontier, theists want to loudly proclaim that it must be god. They usually do this after a few centuries of trying to suppress the scientific frontiers as the work of the devil. 

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Hey Harley, thanks for the

Hey Harley, thanks for the laugh!

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Thus spake Zarathustra

http://www3.sympatico.ca/zoroastrian/fire.htm

In Yasna 34.4, a verse in the Atash Nyaesh, Zarathushtra says:


Thus, O Ahura we yearn through Asha for thy Fire, mighty, most-enduring and courageous, giving clear guidance in life to the earnest believers; but O Mazda to those with destructive tendencies, it overcomes their violence by the power of its flames.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_worship

 

Worship or deification of fire (also pyrodulia, pyrolatry or pyrolatria) is known from various religions. Fire has been an important part of human culture since the Lower Paleolithic. The earliest known traces of controlled fire were found at Gesher Benot Ya‘aqov, Israel and dated to an age of 790,000 years,[1] and religious or animist notions connected to fire must be assumed to reach back to such early pre-Homo sapiens times. In the animal kingdom, the controlled use of fire is restricted to human species. As fire has also destructive capabilities, the worshipping of fire is necessarily ambiguous. This is indicated in proverbs such as "Fire is a good servant but a bad master".

 

Archaeologically, the earliest evidence for Indo-Iranian fire worship is found at the transition from the Sintashta-Petrovka to the Fedorovo culture around 1500 BC, together with first evidence of cremation. While cremation became ubiquitous in Hinduism, it came to be disavowed in Zoroastrianism.

Although the term "fire-worshippers" is primarily associated with Zoroastrians, the idea that Zoroastrians worship fire is originally from anti-Zoroastrian polemic. Instead, fire — even in a Fire temple (the Zoroastrian terms are more prosaic and simply mean "house of fire" ) — is considered to be an agent of purity and as a symbol of righteousness and truth. In the present day this is explained to be because fire burns ever-upwards and cannot itself be polluted. Nonetheless, Sadeh and Chaharshanbe Suri are both fire-related festivals celebrated throughout Greater Iran and date back to when Zoroastrianism was still the predominant religion of the region.

In Vedic disciplines of Hinduism, fire is a central element in the Yajna ceremony, with Agni, "fire", playing the role as mediator between the worshipper and the other gods. Related concepts are the Agnihotra ritual, the invocation of the healing properties of fire; the Agnicayana ritual, which is the building of a fire altar to Agni; and Agnistoma, which is one of the seven Somayajnas. In the Vaishnav branch of Hinduism, Agni or Fire is considered the tongue of the Supreme Lord Narayana, hence all the sacrifices done even to any demigod ultimately is a sacrifice to the Supreme Lord Narayana.[3]

Fire worship in Graeco-Roman tradition had two separate forms: fire of the hearth and fire of the forge. Hearth worship was maintained in Rome by the Vestal Virgins, who served the goddess Vesta, protector of the home, who had a sacred flame as the symbol of her presence in the city (cf. Sacred fire of Vesta). The Greek equivalent of the goddess was Hestia, whose worship is less well attested. The fire of the forge was associated with the Greek god Hephaestus and the Roman equivalent Vulcan. These two seem to have served both as craft-guild patrons and as protectors against accidental fires in cities. Also associated with fire is the titanic god Prometheus, who stole fire for humans from the gods. Most forms of worship in Graeco-Roman religion involved either cooking or burning completely an animal on a fire made on an altar in front of a temple (see hecatomb).

Fire is an element of theophany in the Hebrew Bible's burning bush, pillar of fire, and the Eternal flame of the Menorah.

The highest form of sacrifice is the Korban Olah, performed twice-daily, which is an animal sacrifice completely consumed by fire.

In the New Testament, the Holy Spirit is manifested as "tongues of flame".

The Qarmatians, a branch of Ismailism (in turn a branch of Shia Islam) claimed to have found the Mahdi in the 10th century and appointed him caliph, but later deposed him because of an ensuing power struggle. Among his so-called heretical beliefs were fire worship and book burning of religious texts.

 

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 Vastet, The sophomoric

 Vastet, 

The sophomoric posts in this thread from Bishadi were deleted as part of a mod action against him.

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Funny

RationalResponseSquad wrote:

 Vastet, 

The sophomoric posts in this thread from Bishadi were deleted as part of a mod action against him.

 

Yo RRS, do you realize the goof that opened this thread is perhaps the dummest on the site.  Note the thread openers, then go back to his and my first interactions  (close there of), notice i asked about the 'heat' of the iron?

 

these experiments that he is posting are the new evidence that what is thought and believed in the fields of physics is not so much in the lab.

 

for example, from his link provided:

"UCL chemists have shown that there are significant differences between solid/gas reactions and their liquid phase equivalents. Liquid free electrochemistry presents access to a vast number of redox reactions, current voltage signatures that lie outside potential limits defined by the liquid.

The prospect of new redox chemistries will enable new technological applications such as electrodeposition, electroanalysis and electrolysis, which will have significant economic and environmental benefits.

Dr Caruana said: "The mystique surrounding the properties of fire has always captivated our imagination. However, there are still some very significant technical and scientific questions that remain regarding fire and flame.

 

 

 

what are the electromagnetic fields?

 

of which PROPERTY of nature?

 

is this forum, now mine?

 

can i post up that the very philosophical, theological and scientific disciplines of knowledge can combine by the comprehension of that property of nature?  "Light" with its electric and magnetic fields in perpendicular planes (perfect cross) and comprehending how them fields combine for all actions (motion) to mass (the elements), have ya ever heard of such a thing?

 

the point of the article is that it aint just a chemical reduction. They found "fields" can manipulate the reactions above the surface (its environment)

 

It's kind of basic, but few look at it this way but the kids are, all over the world!

 

 

(giggle giggle)

 

 

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Bishadi wrote: what are the

Bishadi wrote:

 

what are the electromagnetic fields?

 

of which PROPERTY of nature?

 

is this forum, now mine?

 

can i post up that the very philosophical, theological and scientific disciplines of knowledge can combine by the comprehension of that property of nature?  "Light" with its electric and magnetic fields in perpendicular planes (perfect cross) and comprehending how them fields combine for all actions (motion) to mass (the elements), have ya ever heard of such a thing?

 

the point of the article is that it aint just a chemical reduction. They found "fields" can manipulate the reactions above the surface (its environment)

It's kind of basic, but few look at it this way but the kids are, all over the world!

 

(giggle giggle)

Bishadi................. nevermind.

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harleysportster wrote:

Bishadi................. nevermind.

That's exactly what I thought, except I didn't make a post :|. (Until now, I guess.)

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 here's the

 

here's the paper

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/anie.201200226/asset/supinfo/anie_201200226_sm_miscellaneous_information.pdf?v=1&s=882ccb8793b2149c1a971435ca01a194ce9e790d

 

There is a combining of energy by 2 flames and that arrangment is important (hex), why?

 

 

 

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In case you haven't noticed,

In case you haven't noticed, pretty much all of us know you are an ignorant troll and not worth paying attention to. Noone is wasting their time reading your stupidity.

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