Uncaused quantum event?
I have a question that maybe you all can help me with. I am currently banging my head against the wall trying to figure out the meaning of the universe by arguing with someone about the Kalam Cosmological Argument. During the argument an interesting question came up for me.It is my (REALLY limited) understanding that on a quantum scale particles pop in and out of existence uncaused. But it was put to me that this is just Heisenberg's Uncertainty principle in action, and that those particles already exist. Is this true? Or are there two separate ideas at work here? If it helps, here is my (partial) argument:
- Premise 1) Everything that begins to exist has a cause. We know this to be true within the universe. We see cause and effect happen all the time. Your right it is an undeniable fact… Unless you carry it into the realm of quantum mechanics. Then " Everything that begins to exist has a cause." becomes untrue. It is not fact. Cause is not established. If the universe did indeed "begin to exist", it did so in a quantum nucleation event. (Whoops, should have said "could have done so") Which we KNOW can happen entirely uncaused. So premise 1 fails. -
And this was the (partial) rebuttal from my associate:
- Re premise 1 - According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle (upon which I believe you're trading here), it is impossible to predict precisely the conditions of the values of momentum or position of some particle x at some time t2 on the basis of our knowledge of the conditions of x at t1. I have no qualms with this as it does not actually represent an exception to the principle in premise 1. At most, this just speaks to the change of condition in existing particles. It states nothing about the coming into being of the particles in question. It just simply assumes the particles already existed, a position that is merely speculated when it comes to the singularity. -
I think this just a doge on his part. But if so, the problem is that I am having trouble fully grasping things like Bell's inequality or finding examples of quantum uncaused events. I started pulling at a thread that has now led to a Costco full of entanglements!
Hope anyone can shed some light on this question for me and I thank you for your time fellow people who don't beleive in talking toasters.