Atheism needs to be honest [trollville]
After debating and exposing Rook Hawkins as a sham of a historian, I find out later that he is the joke I believed he was.
This was from the debate and Rook admitting that he lost:
You're right, and in Greek,
You're right, and in Greek, in the LXX, it has been translated to be adelphos. The word is metaphorical or general. There is a variant of the Hebrew word used which would have meant brother, literally, however it is not that variant. So you are correct. I wonder then why the translaters of some of the versions used "brother" instead of "kin"? Perhaps by using the LXX they determined that in order to keep good with the theme in the Greek NT, they decided to keep it "brother", but that doesn't seem to jive well with the Hebrew, or the intentions of the seventy scholars. This is why I am not a fan of english versions, because I don't like how they alter or paraphrase a word or sentence in Greek into english.
But either way, you're correct. I should go through and update my list.
That post was from Why Translation and Context matters: What is absolutely amazing is that when I simply asked about Rook's credentials - the attacks began.
At first Todangst threatened to throw me off the website because I copied an article from another website. What is even laughable is that Todangst acted as if I should never have asked and yet I find out today (2 years later) that Rook - Thomas Verenna is working on his undergraduate degree . . . I wonder where??? Perhaps at the local community college. For years he was listed as an ancient text expert.
Todangst wrote in the same forum - By the way, I'd appreciate it, in the sake of intellectual honesty, if you'd stop posting the work of others on our site:
I explained that I was in a hurry and I apologized for posting an article that was not mine. What is so interesting is that neither Todangst nor Rook know anything of intellectual honesty. Instead of being honest - Todangst went to Rooks defense. He refused to answer the question knowing that Rook was not an expert. With just a little research - Now I find out that it is not only Theists such as myself who see the absolute hypocrisy of Rook, but ahteists are also running like crazy from the pretender - Rook Hawkins.
What is absolutely incredible is that Todangst wrote of me:
I can only call Rev's comments a classic example of projection. Remember that this is a guy who responds to arguments by uncritically cutting and pasting the work of others as his 'response', without even bothering to examine them.
What is so sick about Todangst is that he knew. He knew that Rook was unqualified. He knew that Rook is a fake. He could not even stand up to one issue that I brought up and yet just because the term Theist was beside my name . . . Todangst wouldn't answer and simply be "intellectually honest." What is even more laughable is to read an earlier quote of Rook Hawkins:
Leave the real scholarship to people who can remain unbias and honest, instead of trying to correct those who are your betters in terms of understanding the background of the reflexive social and cultural experiments of the days in which each book of the Bible and the apocrypha/pseudepigrapha were written.
Todangst is a loser. Later he wrote:
I have two masters degrees in clinicial psychology, and am in my internship year for my doctorate in psychology (with a minor in philosophy) from Rutgers University. It is my expert opinion that you are intellectually lazy and are looking for a way to simply ignore Rook's work.
With two masters degrees . . . he could not face truth??? Todangst's education is a joke.
Well, Todangst - this intellectually lazy theist proved Rook wrong and I stated I would not take on any of his other rantings until he corrected the error I pointed out. As you can see . . . Rook admitted he was wrong and the date of that - Posted on: May 18, 2007 - 2:22pm. You can see that for yourself at:
By the way . . . what ever happened to the list??? Was it simply deleted because it was simply a bunch of crap that Rook could not defend. I know that even a year later, the correction was never made to the list. Was that intellectually lazy Todangst or is it just perpetuating a lie??? Please, give me your expert opinion.
That explains why this site is simply dying a slow death. You would rather compromise than be honest. Todangst, before you do something stupid like pretend I am so proud of debating and making Rook look like a fool - just spare us. You were wrong before and you would be wrong now.
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