Friedrich Nietzsche

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Friedrich Nietzsche

Last night I had a disagreement about Friedrich Nietzsche,my friend said that he was a nihilist and I said that Nietzsche was a existentialist,and that only a small part of his writing can be considered nihilist,but not his over-all philosophy.


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Hmm, I could see it either

Hmm, I could see it either way but I think you're right. If memory serves me right, he wrote a lot about nihilism but was actually an existentialist.


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And the substance that you

And the substance that you wanted to discuss was???

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Answers in Gene...wrote:and the substance to discuss was ?

Well,I guess that you could say that it was a "Philosophical" discussion about the impact nihilism had on German society. 

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 "On Truth and Lying In a

 "On Truth and Lying In a Non-Moral Sense" reads very nihilistically too me. 

I mean, he says that words and concepts hold no meaning, the human intellect is fake, etc...I don't know, he always seemed like a nihilist to me.

"Do not, as some ungracious pastors do, show me the steep and thorny way to heaven. Whiles, like a puff'd and reckless libertine, himself the primrose path of dalliance treads. And recks not his own rede."


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Well, I have not read

Well, I have not read much of his works but I have read some of them. Honestly, I think that this is not a question that even has a definite answer. One possible answer is that he was a bit of both (yes that would be a total cop-out but even so...).

 

This would suggest to me where the line should be drawn and again, I must cop-out and say that the line moved around during his life. From what I have read, I tend to the idea that he was more existentialist later in life but that might reflect on my mainly nihilistic view of the world.

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Nietzsche was actually very

Nietzsche was actually very anti-nihilist in the sense of thinking "nothing is anything and everything is nothing so let's head for self-destruction" (I guess they had emo kids back then, too). Thus Spake Zarathustra put forth ideas for a new morality, as he was nihilistic in the sense of "there is no deeper meaning to life" but he followed up with "so let's make one." Parts 1 and 2 are pretty good, IIRC.

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Ken G. wrote:Last night I

Ken G. wrote:

Last night I had a disagreement about Friedrich Nietzsche,my friend said that he was a nihilist and I said that Nietzsche was a existentialist,and that only a small part of his writing can be considered nihilist,but not his over-all philosophy.

Nietzsche's writings have no real meaning except what the reader projects as meaning.

So wouldn't Nietzsche say you are both right and both wrong?

 

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Nietzsche as a nihilist is a

Nietzsche as a nihilist is a very common misconception--some of his best work was actually a reaction against the pessimism of Arthur Schopenhauer.  Thus Spoke Zarathustra is essentially the anti-nihilist manifesto.