...And this would be why I prefer to work where there is a worker's union.

"Kevin, go lift that object that you could not possibly lift and that you did not sign-up for lifting and ruin your back/shoulders for me."

"Uh. No thanks."

"YOU HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE!!! WHY CANT YOU BE A TEAM PLAYER LIEK THE REST OF MY SHEEP!!!@@!!???"

"Kevin, go do this unsafe this for me."

"Uh. No thanks. That's really unsafe."

"YOU HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE!!! WHY CANT YOU BE A TEAM PLAYER LIEK THE REST OF MY SHEEP!!!@@!!???"

"Kevin, go operate this machine that you've never operated before in your life that can quite clearly take your arm off if operated incompetetly."

"Uh. No thanks. I haven't been trained to operate that."

""YOU HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE!!! WHY CANT YOU BE A TEAM PLAYER LIEK THE REST OF MY SHEEP!!!@@!!???""

Etc.

I do agree with Hamby about one thing, here:

You should see about finding work elsewhere.

I don't think anything you've said really warrents legal action.

And Kevin where the hell did you work, a sweat shop in Sri Lanka?

Chapters, Sobeys and Future Shop.

Kevin already summed it up for me, and I'm thankful for that Kevin, and I'd like to add my own examples as well:

Seriously, Kevin, you have to get over this fragile baby bird thing.  You're a young man.  Join a gym, lift some weights, eat protein and drink milk.  Women will begin to like you for completely shallow reasons and men will think twice before presuming they can push you around.  As a matter of fact, there is some satisfaction to being thought of as the dude who can lift heavy shit from time to time.

What?

I never said complain to the boss, I said talk to the employee about it.

I've been asked to do somebody else's job before, and I just said I was busy and that he better have a good reason to get me to do his job since it takes me from my work.

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That said, you're right Hamby [see I said it], he should do what he's asked, I just don't know the specific situation or if talking to the co-worker would work. If he doesn't think it does, than I wouldn't try

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On a totally unrelated note, it is far harder for a girl to pee in somebody's coffee, but they'll eventually get it.

 LOL, Pineapple.  My calender has been marked.

To be clear, I was pointing more towards KB than you.  To be even more clear, here's my take as a boss:

Employee:  Hey, boss, something didn't get done.

Me: What didn't get done?

E: This thing over here.

Me: You're standing here talking to me.  Why are you doing that when "this thing over here needs to be done"?

E: Well, so and so didn't do it, and wanted me to do it, but it's his job.

Me: So, now I've got two employees who don't care enough about my business to do something that has to be done.

E:  Er... but.. it's his job...

Me: If that's the attitude you have, you're hardly better than him.  Your job is to make my company successful so that you still have a job.  You know what?  I don't need either one of you.  I'll find someone who cares about being a productive part of the company more than making sure he doesn't have to do any extra work.

Here's a good example.  The other day, a bunch of my employees wanted off to go on a river raft trip.  It's traditional to do so after school lets out every year, but this year, I couldn't afford to close for the day, so I got a couple of other employees together, and we ran the place on a short staff all day.  During the day, I washed dishes, ran food, bused tables, cooked on the line, cleaned bathrooms, hauled cases of drinks into the cooler, and closed down the kitchen (which is not pleasant).  I'm the owner.  I pay people to do that stuff, but I did it on this day because it needed to be done.  

I expect all of my employees to do the same thing for me.  If something needs to be done, step one is to do it.  If someone was slacking and didn't do their job, that can be figured out later.

Zeeboe, what I'm about to say to you is meant to be helpful, but it's going to be harsh.  I remember you from a while back, and the thing is, you're looking for excuses in life.  People who look for excuses aren't generally good employees, so I think regardless of the fact that your coworkers are old rednecks, or theists, or whatever, your problem is that you've got the wrong attitude about work (and possibly life in general).  It might be true that you have a crappy work environment and lazy coworkers.  The thing is, it doesn't matter.  The way to make a place better is to make it better, not to complain about it being bad.  The most valuable employees are the ones who don't see job descriptions, instead seeing things that need to be done and finding ways to make things work.

If there's no way for you to make things better at your job, you should find another job.  On the other hand, if there's a way for you to work harder and make your company more successful, you should do it, regardless of what other people are saying behind your back.  You should definitely not cause a stink because you didn't want to help your coworker.

Posted before I saw your response Ham, and I am grateful for the advice, but I promise you, I do my job very well. All of my issues have been personalty clashes. One of the reasons why no one has ever been fired is because all these problems have nothing to do with the children. The children are always safe, and taken care of. People like Ed Hunter hate me because they have an old-fashion way of thinking.

What bothers me is he goes and gossips about me, and none of these people are ever interested in hearing my side. I've been told by some that most people ignore him, but not all of them do. And I've been told that many people in that break room are HIGHLY jealous of me, and that is their problem, even though I've never personally done a thing to them.

I can tell you that all I've done for over two years now is ignore it all, and keep my distance from them, and I can be the first to admit that I get offended way too easily, and I shouldn't let people who I clearly hate get to me like this, but it's hard sometimes. As of right now, my only plan is to keep doing what I'm doing.

I thought about reporting what that David guy said to me, but in the past, when it comes to personal things like that, my boss has done nothing for me. The school year is almost over, so I am going to try as hard as I can to last these four days coming up, and then get outta there, get away from Ed, and start fresh next year.

But if you have any advice to offer, I'm all for reading it.

 Ok... Now I've read your response to me personally, and here's my take on it.  As an employer, it's a big, gigantic red flag when an applicant says, "At my last job, I didn't have any problems.  It was just other people and I have personality clashes."

Part of being a good employee is managing other personalities.  Sometimes, it just can't be done, and that's fine, but generally speaking, when everybody dislikes one person, it's not everybody's fault.

Here's the crux of the issue, Zeeboe, and it's just what I said earlier.  You're looking for excuses, not solutions.  You're content to be the guy off in his corner ignoring everybody else and then acting surprised when they don't like you because you ignore them.

You get offended too easily.  Big gigantic problem.  You need to take the chip off your shoulder.  Everybody there is a human being.  You just got done ranting about how much they suck.  Honestly, you haven't said much good about any of your coworkers yet, except that Ed knows where he's going and knows you're a good guy.  They're people, Zeeboe.  They have the same aggravations and irritations that you do, and they are probably pissed that they always have to put up with that fucking liberal hippie who thinks he's to good to hang out with the rest of the trench monkeys and be friends.

You're going to have the same problem, even if you find a bunch of liberal hippies to work with.  I've hired and fired a lot of people in my time, and I'm telling you, your story isn't even remotely unique.  I've had employees like you, and they don't work for me anymore.  I've heard your story a hundred times, with different details filling in the same template.  The fact is, you're probably right about the sub being incompetent.  It doesn't matter, though, because the root problem you're having is that you're not a good person to work with.  You don't inspire trust in your coworkers.  They don't like you or trust you, and that's a problem with you, not them.

Many states are "right to fuck the employee" states. You can be great at your job, but if a boss doesn't like you because you are an atheist, they can make up shit, even if it isn't true. I've seen it happen to theists  and I have had it happen to me, for a variety of reasons. When someone who does a good job gets fired, it is because of ego.

Unless it is a blatent violation of discrimination or sexual harrassment with willing  witnesses, you are going to have a tough time. I would suggest that if it gets that bad, make sure you have someone there that can give you a good reference(WITHOUT stirring trouble) look for another job before you quite, put up with the shit untill you find another one.

I would also say that every job I have started when others found out, I got harassed and had gossip behind my back. The quickest way to silence them is to be helpful to everyone and do a better job. It may take a long time, but it will silence your critics. But that takes time.

Well, not knowing the circumstances (I haven't worked in a restaurant; I would assume, like most businesses, there are generalized tasks that almost anyone can do and then more specialized tasks that are supposed to be handled by appropriately trained individuals), it's hard for me to agree or disagree. I mean, did he just refuse to wipe the table because, "That's not his job?"

If that's the case, well fine, you're right. That's just being an asshole.

What if it was... fuck, I dunno, is there a job in the restaurant that is obviously pretty dangerous or rather difficult to do unless you're properly trained for it (I would imagine any of the cooking positions), and your waitress said that she wouldn't do it because, "That's not her job." I'd argue she's right  (Again, that's assuming it's actually tough to do the chef's job. A better example would be, say, on a rig site up here, asking a swamper to go ahead and do the crane operator's job. Awfully good way to wreck equipment and injure someone).

Well, I was hired as the reciever in the back (unloading trucks that came in with stock and then doing a smidge of bookkeeping for inventory). I was the lone reciever (Sobey's operates all stores with a single reciever), so there were no employees to request assistance from, and actually asking the driver if he would mind helping got me into trouble ("Unloading that truck is your job, son!&quot.

Well, fair enough I suppose, but it wasn't a job I could do.

When this became obvious due to the amount of time it was taking to unload any vehicle that did not come with it's own jack, I was moved to grocery as a (as you guessed) stock boy. Again, this simply didn't work out. So now I've managed to waste my time, my employer's time and my employer's money and I've managed to work one more place that remembers me as someone who 'was not a team player', all because they did not specify what my obligations were. I mean, I wouldn't have applied for the damn position if they'd have just said, "Oh, you'll need to be able to lift and carry about 30 lbs around comfortably."

Well Ham, I'm grateful you're taking an interest. No sarcasm intended. But I also think that you're judging a little too quicky for someone who doesn't know the full story. I did try to hang out with them, and some are okay with me. Infact, last year, I had a wonderful relationship with a co-worker because she actually spoke to me whenever there were issues, and she was nice about it. There were never any problems. Not one time.

Ed however would never tell me about a problem he had, but instead, would go and gossip about me. And by the way, others have had problems with him before, and I've been told many times that he can't ever keep a montior because of the rude way he comes across. And anytime Ed did speak to me about something, he was rude.

I know his point of view. Gilson an atheist scumbag with a liberal way of thinking, doesn't hate homosexuals like he does, has a cushy job, gets the kid all wound up when they should be sitting there, not saying one word or having any fun, the kids all like Gilson more then me, Gilson gets to go to places I can't afford to go to, Gilson has a very loving Mother, and when I was Gilson's age, I was out digging a ditch in a hot sun.

In general, many of the bus drivers have issues with the montiors. They're bitter because while they drive, we're sitting, but whenever there's a violent kid on there, they seem to change their mind about how they feel.

Ed's grandson was riding the bus one day, and this special ed girl starting to beat him up. Ed asked me to step in, and defend his grandson, and I did, and I was already on my way to stop it, and this girl proceeded to hit me, kick me, etc. I couldn't hit her back because I would have killed her, and I wanted to at least slap her, but I couldn't. It got so bad, we had to call the police.

......Ed never once thanked me for protecting his grandson. I've also given his grandson gifts from time to time out of the goodness of my selfish snobby heart, and Ed never once thanked me for it.

The first year I worked with Ed, I'd say Morning, and when I'd leave the bus, I'd say bye. His response?

"Yeah."

He said that every time. I stopped greeted him at all.

And there's a lot more there.

Believe it or not Ham, I don't act like this at all at work, or I'd get fired. I stopped hanging with everyone after I learned many of them were talking trash about me, and snickering behind my back. That's when I became this little cocky evil rich kid. If they wanna get nasty to me, I can get real nasty back. But for the most part, I ignored them, and their rudeness.

I have not done anything to Ed, and I don't deserve the way I've been treated. If I have done something to Ed, why can't he grow some balls and tell me what the fucking problem is? Not once....NOT ONCE....has he ever asked to talk to me alone, and just talk. He rarely says a goddamn word to me. He judges me, and has treated me as if I'm not even human, because he's a selfish, lying, redneck asshole.

I came on here to rant because I'm very unhappy at my job. But I can promise you, if you ever saw Ed in action, you'd be treating him worst then you're treating me right now, because he has the same type of mindset that the KKK has, that Fred Phelps has, and that most psycho Christians have.

But maybe you're all of those things Ham. I don't know. It seems to me that not once have you ever offered a comforting word on how to deal with a person like that, and I don't know if it's an age thing, and I don't even know how old you are, but it seems that in old lion vs. young lion conflicts, the old timers always defend the other old timers no matter what because they come from this fucked up era where you're just given respect because you're fucking old.

Well, I have a new-school way of thinking. Fuck the old timers, and fuck their respect. They earn it, and Ed Hunter has not earned anything from me, so fuck him. I don't give a damn how old you are, that doesn't give you instant respect in my eyes. Screw that.

In closing, people hate me. You know that Ham. You remember me. And the truth is, I hate them. I'm not a people person, and I've tried and tried to figure out what was wrong with me. I was bullied, and I took it all because I wanted respect, but that didn't work, so I got some balls, and fought back, but that didn't work either. Rather I act like a big sissy who cowers away, or act like a tough guy, either way I still can't get any respect. All I do know is, it's better to be looked upon as a fucking asshole then a fucking coward.

I've been to head doctors, I've worn masks and pretended to be someone I wasn't, I stopped faking people out because I was asked to, I was told be myself, so I was myself, and that still wasn't good enough. I've tried to be everything the world has wanted me to be, but the world rather cheer people like John Gotti, and O.J. Simpson, and Charles Manson, and rather watch entertainment where you get off on the pain of others, and people all across the world have a picture of a dead man nailed to a tree.

Hell, I don't go around raping me, or molesting children, or beat people up, or kill people, or fly planes into buildings, or blow places up, or break people's hearts, or use people, or go fuck everything I see.

But maybe that's the problem. Maybe I'm just too goddamn good and have too many morals for a world like this one, and that is the problem, and what makes people just hate me on instict, because they're all evil S.O.B.'s, and I'm one of the last truly good humans, but it's not possible to be good in a world like today, especially in America. Amercia should be this great country, but instead, it's like accent rome, that's slowly killing itself from the inside because it's being lead by scum.

I think my problem is, is I was either born in the wrong era, or among the wrong race of people, or maybe I was suppose to be an animal, or some creature that doesn't live very long. Maybe I wasn't suppose to be born at all. I have no clue. Now I know you and others are gonna think I'm trying to have compassion, but I've been there, done that, this is the honest to God truth, and I don't need or want any compassion because it's all fake anyhow, meant to make others feel people.

Ham, look at some violent clips sometime on you tube. Those are YOUR people. Your people your defending. That's fine.

But when I do finally die, I have no doubt the world will be a much better place, and I'll be at my happiest because YOU people make me sick.

I'm outta here.

......

I think someone needs a nap.

Car is stuck. Hm, how to move it? Oh, I know...

...Drat. That didn't work out so well.

Perhaps my example of being asked to lift objects heavier than what I can manage was more a case of sour grapes than a good illustration of the point I'm trying to make which nobody has addressed:

Lots of jobs involve tasks that are assigned to specific individuals with specific qualities, and for good reason (would you ask me to do your books for you one night if your bookkeeper wasn't in?). Employers tend to be more lenient (in my own experience) when left to their own devices when said 'good reason' strictly involves the safety of the employee.

I was a sales floor rep at Future Shop, and I was asked one time (I think this is the best example I have from personal experience, aside from being asked to perform loss prevention shifts, which I also refused) to operate a winch machine to tow a TV out from a truck. I said that I couldn't, because I wasn't trained to use that machine, so it would be unsafe for me to do. I got the usual impulsing from the department manager ("Oh, don't worry, it's no big deal&quot, so I ask him if he knows what the tensile carrying weight of the cable is. Of course not. I ask him if he knows what to do if the machine jams, or what to look for in case something happens. He tells me "Oh, nothing ever happens with those anyway," (this, ironically, coming after we're just coming off of a 'reset' of being accident-free in the store after a power jack dropped a TV on a merchandiser's foot). I ask him if he at least has the manual, so I can read through the safety instructions. As far as he's aware, it didn't come with a manual.

I got snarkier than I should've and then asked him if he happened to know anything about the winch at all, other than that it made loud noises and moved TVs after you flicked the power switch. He got angry and had someone else do the job, and of course I get one more manager upset at me for not being the dutiful and dopey lapdog I'm apparently supposed to be.

I was hired to do sales. I was trained to do sales. I hardly mind if sales also involves things like keeping my workspace clean by taking out garbage, sweeping, dusting, etc, or just doing basic things that anyone can do to help out in the store. I do mind when you ask me to do something that simply isn't any of my business to be doing at all. Why I should I do unsafe things that I did not consent to doing for you when we first agreed on the conditions of my employment just so that you can save money on hiring extra staff or properly training people?

...Speaking of dutiful, I'm always glad to know that you can be counted on to act as my own personal party of no, Alison.

Oh, hardly.

But that's half the fun, isn't it?

(Christ, I think we might've just exchanged good-natured jabs. Anyone have Satan on speed dial? I want to check-up on the guy and make sure he hasn't just hit a cold spell)

This reminds me of my sister ~ ALWAYS has issues with others due to "personality clashes" or "They are out to get me" or "She talked about me to the other girl who talked to the boss...." 

She has never learned to IGNORE all the bullshit that happens within the dynamics of a group and simply: Do her job~don't complain~help others to reach the ultimate goal of the company.

I work in HR for a department store and it is amazing to me the complaints my office receives. Just a few days ago I had a young man call and tell me "I am not getting enough hours in my current location and would like to transfer"

Me: " What did your manager say when you approached him with your concern?"

Person: "Well, he mentioned something about me not being productive and how I need to get customers to open more credit cards~but I am just a cashier, they are asking too much of me"

Me: (stifling a laugh) "So what have you done to increase the number of credit cards you have opened"

Person: "nothing"

...the conversation ended with me suggesting he go back to manager and discuss opportunities for him to receive hours~develop a plan (and me emailing his manager with a heads up)

It is hard to swallow but we all work with people we don't care for. Personalities are different ~ motivations are different ~ a persons strengths in their job differ. The 'perfect' employee would be one that recognizes that and 'works well with others' no matter HOW difficult the person can be (if only all employees were like that!)

With that being said many companies strive to uphold a non-hostile atmosphere for its employees to work. If after reading all of the replies to your post you still feel that there is more to your accusations at work you need to speak to your immediate supervisor or manager.

~My advice is to first check yourself ~
 

This is very sound advice given the specific circumstances.

DO look for another job is equally sound advice. BUT DO NOT quit until you've found another job and accepted an offer, preferably
made in writing.

Best of luck to all in similar lousy positions. (Bad shit happens to us all.)

This is passive aggressive.... as a matter of fact you may be unaware that you are affecting your co-workers ~ ever wonder why they seem to 'be against you'? Maybe you have driven them batty with your behavior.

So your impatience is warranted in this situation? He was unsure of where he was, you were giving direction and you (because your precious routine and 'way of doing things' was interrupted) were hard to work with and to david you were being 'useless' ~~ probably BECAUSE YOU WERE. Would it have been much easier to say "I am sorry David, I am unfamiliar with this route lets work together to figure out where we are?"

The rest of this point just sounds like a bunch of whining. Sorry zeeboe but it has the makings of reading an 8th graders account of being bullied.

You are an adult, embrace that you will be hard pressed to find yourself working with a group of people you get along with 100% of the time (none of us will) and if it is that horrible, start looking for another job. Especially if you have done your part and voiced your concerns to your supervisor and nothing has been done.

OK zeeboe, I think that your best bet is to find another job. Allow me to explain:

You clearly have a hostile work environment. While you have clearly gone out of your way to encourage the situation, it is a fact that your employer and your co-workers also bear some responsibility. Whatever. If things are as bad as you say, your next job can't possibly be worse.

Now, that being said, get your next job, preferably in writing, first and then approach your boss about the matter. Here is why this is important:

Unless your boss is such a dick that he is not worth working for (and I have my suspicions in that direction BTW), he knows that you are in a very poor situation. If you go to him and say, gee boss, this company is offering me more money to work for them... then your boss can simply state that he can't match the offer and let you go with his blessing.

It really does not matter if they are offering you more money. What matters is that your current boss has no intention of offering you more money to maintain your very poor situation. You are offering him an easy way to end matters and should you need the reference in the future, he can confirm your dates of employment and possibly add a note that the kids all loved you.

If the reality is that you take a small pay cut for making the move, then you should consider how much the grief is worth anyway. Probably not enough to make it worth trying to keep a work situation that is slowly degrading.

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That being said, do not engage in lawyer waving.

First, from what you are saying, it sounds like you simply do not have a case to work with. If you simply feel that you must consider legal action, it is far better to keep silent to your employer while you speak to a lawyer and find out where you stand.

The other way just sets you up as a trouble maker who is willing to drag the company through the legal system. Whether you win or not, you have taken time and money from the company that could have been used to do the job of the company. Telling the company that you are willing to do this gives them an opportunity for the boss to make your job so much trouble that you end up quitting with nothing to show from it, including your chance to get unemployment compensation.

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More generally, you really should cut out the whole standing apart from other workers thing. It is far too late to fix your problem with your current employer, even if you wanted to. Also, the current situation is bad enough that it would take a commitment from your employer that I really doubt he is willing to make.

Consider the advice that you are getting from Hamby here. Hamby is talking about loyalty to the company. As an employer, that is certainly his prerogative. As an employee, if that does not sit well with you, then you can think in terms of fitting in with your coworkers as a team. In the end, the result will be essentially the same.

Speaking of team work, let me tell you something else.

When you work with a bunch of people, getting on well with them pays off in ways that may not be instantly obvious. If someone is having trouble with something they need done and you can spare the time to help them out, you will get a sort of “interpersonal credit” that will come back to you later on when you need a bit of help.

Let's take Hamby's example of letting much of his staff take a couple of days off for a rafting trip.

Well, Hamby might not think of it just this way but while he and the remaining worker buckled down and worked hard that weekend, those people did so knowing that when it is their turn to ask for a request that many employers would not allow, Hamby will be cool with it just as long as the work gets done somehow.

Also, the people who got the time to go rafting know on some level that when the other workers want their turn to go do whatever, they will be called on by Hamby to put in the extra effort to hold the company line.

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As far as driving a Jag goes, ultimately, that is hardly relevant. Sure, most people are not going to have that going on but in the end, if you are a team player, you are a team player with a Jag. Perhaps just once in a while, you will need to go across town for your next employer. When you do, ask the boss if you can bring a co-worker to help you with whatever it is. Then that guy gets to go for a ride in a Jag. Want to bet that that helps you get some “team credit”?

Personally, I don't have a Jag but I do have a personal recording studio that is probably worth about as much. Granted, most people will not salivate over that. However for a couple of years, I had enough other coworkers who play that I put together a band.

The drummer and lead guitarist have since left so the project is on hold indefinitely. Even so, for the time that we were active, I was able to use a slice of company time that is otherwise light duty to rehearse.

My employer could have stopped that at the drop of a hat. However, it pays off big time in those ways that I discussed above as far as teamwork. That and the company gained a substantial savings on the cost of company parties. Hell, it would cost about $500 around here just to get some guy to flip records for an evening. A live band would cost more. That kind of money can make an extra party or two each year possible. Trust me on this, companies do not spend money on parties because they are really generous. They spend money on parties because they make the company more attractive to work for.

Wasn't even sure I wanted to come back here, but I figured, people would be assuming things, and they were. So here I am, wanting to thank those who were kind and gave serious responses. As far as Ham and Renee go, and anyone else who disagrees with me, you don't know the full story, and you guys all saw me when I was highly pissed off, and not thinking clearly. But I still stand by what I say. I think the reason why you guys are siding with a bunch of strangers who would hate you for being atheists is because you probably figure they're in your age group whereas you see me as this angry young man. But that's the thing about the evil. You hang around them enough, they turn you into evil, because you realize being good when dealing with your enemies gets you nowhere, and sometimes you get evil around the wrong people.

Renee, BELIEVE ME....I am not being bullied. And btw Renee, I did tell that jack-ass that I didn't know where to go, and that is when he got an attitude. And FYI: I basically wear a mask at work. I DO ignore the nonsense, and I go in there, and don't response to any of their crap as if they don't matter. And yes, I am highly sarcastic and a king at being passive aggressive because I fond it pisses people off more and really gets under their skin, and there's very little they can do about it, and I don't get in trouble for it.

And just to prove how open-minded I am, I'll go out and say that maybe you are all right and I am just a big fucking asshole. But again, none of my enemies have ever had the balls to confront me, and tell me what the exact problem is, so I could work on it. But in the end, even if I am the biggest jack-ass on the planet, and every enemy I've ever had was a class-act.......what does that mean anyhow? Really Ham, what exactly are you and Renee trying to convince me of? What are you trying to me? You want me to be a sissy, and ALLOW myself to get bullied, and just say, "Oh yes Sir, anything you said." That's really what the whole world has always wanted out of me, is to be submissive. And there was a time, I was, and then I was judged for not being a man. So I become a man, and now it's back to people trying to make me into their bitch. But maybe that's not it. So again, what are you trying to convince me of exactly? I mean, are you trying to murder me? Implying I should just kill myself as a favor to the world? Seriously. With the way human beings have treated me from the time I came out of my Mother tells me that they want me to kill myself, and most people, who have been through what I have been through, would have killed themselves. I read about thiese teenage bully victims, and hell, half the stuff they went through doesn't even compare to me, only the difference was, I fought back, and that only made things worst. Well, believe me, I've thought about it for years, but I never will and my main reason is:

To annoy the fuck out of you Ham, and everyone else who has a problem with me,. I'll ALWAYS be one more face for YOU to feed Ham, and I'll always be the guy taking forever at the grocery store. I'll take the last copy of the movie you wanted at Blockbuster, and I'll always and forever be buzzing around, and I don't care if every human being hates me, and the most disliked person on the planet, and believe me, I've thought that before, but guess what? One of YOU people who hate me so much are gonna have to kill me yourself to be rid of me. Cause I'm not going anywhere, and I am NEVER changing for nobody. You can think I'm the biggest asshole on the planet, but you won't ever change me. And you can get the whole word to hate me, but guess what? I hate you all too. And YOU are the ones who better get use to things cause I'm not killing myself just to make you all happy. Fuck the world, and what they want. Unlike all of you, I'll never hurt the weak or the innocent. I'll never lower myself to the way you all are, and will NEVER change just to make you all happy. You don't know my work ethic, Ham, and I work very hard at anything that I do, but I can't be a team player if I'm asked to do a job I don't know to do, and if you're fire someone for that, then you must have sucked a lot of dick in your time to become a boss. I'm sorry I even brought this to your attetion. For some strange reason, I thought fellow atheists who have been ripped to pieces by Christians would be able to offer a little compassion, and I might as well have gone to a Christian forum. Hell, at least those assholes would have offered to pray. But seriously, I've been depressed, and stressed as hell all weekend long, and I really didn't need all this added to it.

Now you know what? Ham, you're smarter then me, and better then me, so what would you do? I think you're whole purpose of posting here is to push my buttons, and show off what a decent, mature guy you are, and I know being a big boss man it's kinda hard to remember what it was like to be a nothing, nobody at the bottom of the pole, but how would you have handled something if you were asked to do something you had no clue to do? And then were insulted by it? How would you react if you started off being a nice guy who greeted your co-worker and was ignored, and had this guy talk about you, but you had no idea what you even did in the first place, and went out of your way to earn respect? Maybe I should sell out. Maybe I should cut my hair, and go in there prasing Jesus, but hell, they all seem to hate my guts so much, they'd probably become atheists. lol. But really, enlighten the Devil here, Ham. Tell me, Satan, how to suck dick, and make friends, and kiss up to people, what would you do if you were me....BESIDES kill myself. That's cheating. Let's say that I suck so much, that not even death wants nothing to do with me...."No, you take him, please. He started off with you, he can stay with you." Infact, pretend I'm your son.......yeah, you'd probably beat me. Okay! So write a sarcastic response about how much you'd beat me for acting this way, THEN offer a response......actually, you'd probably try to ship me off to someone else....just nevermind Ham. Forget I asked. I think at this point, you've already made up your mind, but I tell ya, I wish a smart guy like you could have a convo with my co-worker, and I promise if you guys talked about God or black people or homosexuals, within a few minutes, you'd either be saying he's worst then me, or you'd be yelling white power. Either way, it'd be a strong response. Maybe Renee can help! Come on, you too are much smarter then me, of course Renee thinks I'm a big pussy so I might have lost her a long time ago.

Anyone else? I mean, really, do the ONE thing that a group of Christians will NOT do....and have some balls, and tell me, in details, what the problem is. Or maybe, just maybe, there is some kinda....I dunno...black magic that is real, and I just got cursed, and I'm just hated for the sake of it.....NO one....is born a certain way. We are all products of how we were treated growing up, and even now, and this crazy rant is a result of the neverending hate I get from humans.

Hell, the other day, I was walking home, and I had some jack-ass honked his horn and yell "get a car bitch". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....gosh, that's just so funny. Get a car....hahahahaha.....but that's the story of my life. I breath air, and that offends your fellow human beings.

To the few who have been kind....I know I am coming across like a crazy man here, but I am just highly stressed. I am a good, compassionate human, and I sometimes act crazy when dealing with enemies,  but again, maybe that is the problem. Being a good guy that is. Really, I'm left clueless. I mean, these people can insult me....the ones on here that is, but that's all they can do. No serious advice. Just that old-school, daddy crap of take it like a man. Hell, that's like going up to Jesus in the passion of the christ and telling him to take it like a man......*remembers what site he's on*.....okay, bad example....

Anyhow, I was gonna come on here to say sorry about the rant, but I ended up ranting again......alright, rant is over, let's see all the fun responses, if there are any. Bring on the sarcasm, and insults and fake advice, and boot camp speeches about how I am a sissy, and how the KKK is right to hate me. Really, I won't ever off myself, but I'd probably help tighten the rope if the Klan ever does get me. In closing, the best response...would be no response, just close the thread, forget all this, and ban me, and leave me in peace. Please. I'm sorry I started the topic, now I'd like for it to end, so please, do so.

Zeeboe, Hamby's right. I can confirm what he says.
You seem like a guy who is accustomed to a normal, sane environment where you're allowed to work in peace. This is not a thing to expect, only to hope for as a reward. I don't have it also ideal at work, maybe a bit easier with the fact that we have evil employers and we can be united against them, but it's more like that people are demoralized.
But it is a fact, that first you must do a lot for other people, before they will do anything for you. First you must be there for them. You will not change anybody by keeping away and (OMFG) ranting about them in their presence. This is a very bad thing to do. Love and trust transforms the people, negativity only hardens them. Sure they don't deserve the love and trust, but you're not doing a business with that, you must give it out unconditionally. NEVER offend anyone. They surely deserve some real shit, but only as their friend you can have an influence on them.
If there are some real badasses (Ed?) you can take him like a fool, kindly, but not seriously at all, totally impersonally.
Of course you don't deserve anything of that, but the life did put this all in front of you and expects you to do something about it, while searching for a better job of the same kind. If you manage this situation, the rest of your life will seem like a piece of cake. You will be grateful for every normal person you meet.
Of course, there are slanderers, liars, and some really fucked-up people, but maybe it's better to think about them as fascinating people, good for an amateurish psychoanalysis, specially when caught in act.

Remember, the impersonal love can help. I know it sounds cheesy, but it's a real solution for very desperate situations. It may look like you're completely insane, but it helps. I'm a guy who did all the mistakes you do many times at and recently learned from them, through the pain. It took a lot of suffering and nervous breakdowns before I managed to get a greater awareness of the world and people around. I've been a completely innocent guy with a couple of classes of bullies going after me, never fitting into the crowd, and always fucking up everything. And I realized, that instead of innocence, it was a deep, dream-like ignorance. More like a daze.
It's not that you're too good. If you'd be so good as you think about yourself, you would demonstrate them that goodness, you would get your hands dirty with their dirty redneck opinions and love them, love your enemy as that nailed guy reputedly said. It's a dirty and hard work, but the world is a dirty place and your goodness is useless if it's safely locked up inside your head.