Obama on Religion

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Obama on Religion

 There has been much speculation about Obama's views on religion.  Rather than add to the confusion, I thought it would be instructive to let you hear him explain his views.  As a side note, I think there's more actual information in this series of videos than GWB has communicated to the public in his entire 8 year term.

 

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I liked it. I think he's

I liked it. I think he's what the moderates need.

 

 

 


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Thanks helpful Hamby. I

Thanks helpful Hamby. I watched the entirety. You got that right about GWB.
  Much of Obama's expressions are rather similar to mine, except of course he's a politician and so his Christian label. Basically, I think he is a gnosis buddha jesus kind of fan, as I,  and not a dogmatic pauline jesus fan.   

Obama said he "submitted to God and it's truth", which to me is like saying submitting to "reality", rejecting all dogma, and embracing all science, of both cultural and physics understanding.   

Good luck to him, dealing with the mountains of world shit .....

       And yeah caring Cpt , at this time in history.

 Re-post:  Barack Obama's Religion: Less Muslim, More Atheist. Thank God! - 2 mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v0R7IzMJTI

 


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I'm curious what he's been

I'm curious what he's been doing about going to church since he left the Rev. Wright church. Is he going to pick a church in Washington and consult with celebrity pastors?

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 I'm sure most readers here

 I'm sure most readers here are familiar with my opinion on religious moderates.  I'm not a fan, since I think they are the ones directly responsible for allowing fundamentalists nutjobs to retain public respectability and power.

Having said that, I'm not so naive that I can't differentiate between an ideology and a practical reality.  Obama's views on religion, while philosophically unsound, are significantly more inclusive and less divisive than those of the GWB cadre.  I suspect that Obama's keen perception of the value of compromise will prove beneficial to the country, but only if the fifteen to eighteen percent of Americans who identify as secularists get off their collective asses and realize that silent passivity is not an option when half of the country wants theocracy.

The ball is not in Obama's court.  It's in ours.

Speaking of which, there's no reason why every atheist member of RRS shouldn't also be a member of the Secular Coalition for America.  It's free to join, but any donation at all helps to fund the only atheist lobbyist in Washington, Lori Lippman Brown.  The entire organization -- like every other atheist organization I know -- is run almost completely on private donations.   There are around 50,000 members.  If each one gave ten dollars a year, that would be half a milliion.

Consider that there are individual churches in D.C. who could give half a million a year to religious lobbyists, and wouldn't bat an eyelash.  

http://www.secular.org/

 

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There's also the

There's also the FFRF:

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Hambydammit wrote: I'm sure

Hambydammit wrote:

 I'm sure most readers here are familiar with my opinion on religious moderates.  I'm not a fan, since I think they are the ones directly responsible for allowing fundamentalists nutjobs to retain public respectability and power.

 

 

What? you? I'm shocked.

 

 

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Having said that, I'm not so naive that I can't differentiate between an ideology and a practical reality.  Obama's views on religion, while philosophically unsound, are significantly more inclusive and less divisive than those of the GWB cadre.  I suspect that Obama's keen perception of the value of compromise will prove beneficial to the country, but only if the fifteen to eighteen percent of Americans who identify as secularists get off their collective asses and realize that silent passivity is not an option when half of the country wants theocracy.

The ball is not in Obama's court.  It's in ours.

Speaking of which, there's no reason why every atheist member of RRS shouldn't also be a member of the Secular Coalition for America.  It's free to join, but any donation at all helps to fund the only atheist lobbyist in Washington, Lori Lippman Brown.  The entire organization -- like every other atheist organization I know -- is run almost completely on private donations.   There are around 50,000 members.  If each one gave ten dollars a year, that would be half a milliion.

Consider that there are individual churches in D.C. who could give half a million a year to religious lobbyists, and wouldn't bat an eyelash.  

http://www.secular.org/

 

 

I've never been a big fan of this "only the atheists can save America" bit.

 

 


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 Quote:I've never been a

 

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I've never been a big fan of this "only the atheists can save America" bit.

Good thing I didn't say that, then.

 

 

 

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