Don't forget about Christian Socialism and Christian Anarchism.

It in a way goes to show that you can justify almost anything with the Bible...

He yes however I find this so funny since hard core republican-Christiane think Communism = atheism  ! capitalism = god ! I think it will confuse their world ;D And Id love to see on tried to rationalize this .

interesting Jesus conspiracy theories that we have here XD. However I'm not seeing Christians , are all of them dead or are they boycotting the RRS ?

I think that none of those possible points are his point. I think he is pointing out (to some effect) that Christians should be communists.

Well the point is christians supposed to be Communists if they follow the NT. Besides Wicapidia is a source however they have quotes from the bible so you can look up the verses pointing to communism in the bible. The point made here is theta most republicans demonize communism (universal social care , taxing the wealthy , giving to the poor) while glorifying greed and telling us its biblical. I just wont to see the republican response to this or a christian  according to the biblical motto :

Turn (to communism) or burn

PS: Isn't creationism complete and full Communist regime of god in the animal kingdom ? ( http://youtube.com/watch?v=8WWU_KHv2m0 LULZ)

Well, here's the thing, though:

In the period when Jesus was supposed to have existed, certainly during the time when the gospels were actually put down on paper, the idea of a Republic such as we have now was pretty much gone. The Caesars had gotten rid of the Roman Republic, and another Republic wouldn't arise again until Cromwell.

Thus, the idea of 'the government' doing anything to those effects would be the idea of one rich man doing it: The Emperor, or perhaps one of the petty regional Kings he allowed to pay him tribute. To that end, there'd be no point to speaking of the 'obligations' of a government or State, because really, the Emperor was responsible to no man, and so could not be compelled or obligated to do anything. It would be like the Founding Fathers incorporating a section in the Constitution about the responsibilities of the United Nations. The parameters of that discussion would be beyond the scope of their experience.

So really, looking to the Bible for advice on how a government should comport itself... at best, you can look at how they claim the Pharisees, or the sanhedron, should behave. And they seemed to have some pretty harsh words for those who make the houses of worship into houses of commerce. I think they'd have similar harsh words for megachurch organizers who take a fundamentally communal activity and removing the community from it, as well as folks who use their ministry to get rich, and then use that wealth to continue their ministerial revenue streams. I think they'd also have harsh words for 'public servants' who use their public service as a stepping-stone to getting into high-paying commercial jobs that largely rely on their ability to influence other 'public servants' into serving their own ends.

You want to know why people don't give? Because the people who are held up to them as examples of 'success' only ever take. Oh, sure, professional atheletes have their little 'give back' foundations, but how much of that comes from them? Ten, twenty MILLION a year in income, and they give what? Two million to start and then it's all investments and public contributions. Politicians use their connections to land lucrative jobs in the private sector, or take bribes. Why don't people give? Because the message being broadcast loud and clear by every source, from the government, to the media, to the guys selling shoes, and yes, even to the guy standing up in front of 10,000 people he doesn't know shouting into a mic 'Jesus says we need a bigger sound system. Give us the money so we can build an even BIGGER church! It'll only take $20,000,000'... is 'Take'.

The media, the sports leagues and franchises, the merchants... that's all corporate. Corporations exist to maximize profits for Stockholder returns. Religion always says 'give', but pay close attention and it's really 'give... to me'... which means the real message is 'take from those who trust you'. What's left? Corporations aren't responsive to people. We've seen that too often to really believe they are, not unless there's some major shift in public sentiment. Churches? Hell, man, churches don't even care if their ministers violate every principle they stand for, as long as they can sweep it under the rug and use it as a means to raise more money. So what's that leave us as a means to influence people into have a mindset where giving, taking just a few minutes to help others, is a real part of our national character again?

Man, if only we had an organization of the people, for the people, and by the people...

No, I'm a former Catholic. I'm an atheist. (Strictly, a theo-apathist, but atheist will do.) And I think before the Vatican can condemn 'obscene wealth' they really need to downgrade the appointments in their own houses. Yes, many of the chalices in newer churches are brass, not gold, but in the older and wealthier cathedrals? Log-in-the-eye time.

As far as discussing communism, Jesus, and the Republican Party goes... my point was that you were comparing 20th-21st century political mechanisms to what's in a book written at a point when not only were the political structures enacting those mechanisms wildly outside of the experience or imagination of any of the authors of the text, the sheer scale of the subject matter would have been beyond their belief.

The population of the entire Roman Empire at the time wasn't more than 55 million or so.  Added to that, communities were far more self-sufficient then than they are now. Totally leaving aside places like Los Angeles or Detroit, how many small cities or towns in the modern US do you think produce all their own food, including meats? How many produce all of the things they need to survive? Got a lot of clothing mills in those West Virginia mining towns? We're already interdependent on a much larger scale than anything imagined in the Bible.

But no, the issue is not that we should expect the government to keep the playing field level, it's that Christ's message advocated true Communism, not Marxism, Lenninism, Stalinism, or Maoism. He basically told everyone to give away everything, to eschew material concerns, and to care for one another's needs.

And I do understand that in order for my desires to be met, people have to have the desire to give. However, I also understand that in order for people to develop the desire to give, they must be given examples that reinforce that desire, examples where selflessness and serving the needs of the community, not personal aggrandizement, yield favorable results. That's never going to come from financial and professional constructs whose entire purpose is to maximize profit. It has to come from the activities of those who aspire to public office. If they would be our leaders, then they must lead.

How can you expect people to find the reinforcement when Mother Teresa the most giving person of our generation has stuff like this written about her.

"Mother Teresa and JPII both took the stance that alleviating poverty was the wrong way to go, but rather the Church's mission was to care for the impoverished, ie: make sure they get the medical and other care they needed to continue their spiritually-redemptive suffering".

Like the spin Bill – Seriously, who should be their role model. I would think Mother Teresa was a good one.

The "Church's mission is to care for the impoverished" funny I thought impoverished meant - poor enough to need help from others.

If you cannot cure the disease why try to give some comfort but since the disease is the lack of desire to give comfort just let the poor bastards suffer

As I see it the cure has 3 parts. I will attempt to walk through it.

Poverty is based on income

1) Give them jobs so they can support themselves.

Yah… No politician would catch any grief for eliminating jobs and moving them out of the country. OR??? We can bring them to the U.S and give them jobs. I’m sure that won’t cause a problem either.

2) Empty the vast store of wasted food

Inequitable access to food - and not insufficient food production - is the main reason for world hunger. If the land can’t feed them, this is easy, we try to feed them. Sorry but the miracle of genetics doesn’t work here. Genetically altered seed is genetic sterile. Which means a farmer has to buy new seeds every year, this is economically not feasible by farmers from third world countries.

How about we just starve the fat people and setup a universal scale for body fat allowance. 20% is an easily attainable level - that level sounds good to me. We should call the legislature right away and get that moving.

3) Create an international welfare system that provides a living income to all who cannot or do not work.

Increase taxes for the benefits of people outside the country. But this doesn’t cure the disease it is treating a symptom.

Why don’t we just kill all the greedy bastards in the world? Now that would fix it! Since nobody is without flaws than we can just have one big genocide fest. Last man standing gets it all.

Or how about we all try to- Feed the hungry, Give drink to the thirsty, Welcome the stranger, Clothe the naked, Visit the sick, Visit the prisoner and Bury the dead. OOPS, that’s what Mother Teresa did. Being Ex-Catholic I am sure you recognize this. Yeah it doesn’t say remove all suffering because that would also remove all pleasure

I am still waiting for your role model