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But how can you accuse something that does not exist of being evil?
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Note how most threads about it begin, "Oh no, not this again."
I haven't heard this a thousand times before. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE FACT.
All I can say to Magilum is - you didn't refute anything I said.
I can't answer for magilum, but I think that was the short version of "it really doesn't matter." It's a gesture of solidarity for a sub-culture, not a theological statement.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
Like Will said, the Blasphemy Challenge wasn't meant as a literal way to damn yourself to hell.That would be hard since like you say, we would have to believe in the holy spirit and hell first. It's more a way of standing in a predominatley theist world and saying we aren't afraid to challenge religion.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
So... all you really have to do is redefine blasphemy and poof! No blasphemy challenge.
I sense a pattern here.
All you have to do is redefine science and poof! You get Intelligent Design.
All you have to do is redefine faith and poof! All atheists really believe in god and they're just in denial.
Seriously, though, I agree with Loc completely - it was a successful marketing ploy. Period.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
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It is strange what will cause you to do something stupid. I had this flier on my door when I got home Saturday night and it was about the "Choose Jesus" Area Wide Crusade in Ponca City, OK, where I currently live. Anyway it was April 13-16 so being that I like to hear what these people like to say, to stay sharp in a way. I went. Much of the same blah blah "praise Jesus" and stuff you would expect.
I took note but I will not go into all that. at least not yet. anyway the Keynote speaker name is Kevin Clarkson from The First Baptist Church of Newkirk, OK. At the very start he went off by saying "Christianity is under attack."
Strangely his evidence for this was two things. The books of authors [he called them atheist authors] Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens and The Blasphemy Challenge.
He said that ther is a group of people who are trying to convience "young people" to go into churches and blaspheme the Holy Spirit. The in the next sentence he said, "I really didn't see anyone blaspheming The Holy Spirit most were just saying they don't believe in God." And he didn't want to go into what "the unpardonable sin" was but he said "That there is still hope for those kids."
Plus he called agnostics Ignoramuses
He said in the ancient Greek it meant that and that is what you should call a person that says they are an agnostic.
So keep up the good work, you are on the front lines on the War on Christanity.
I've noticed being a christian makes you an expert on evolution and greek,even if you've never studied either. A christian claiming they're being persecuted? What breaking news!! It's odd how they're under such fierce attack.You'd think having a all powerful god on your side might help a bit.
Psalm 14:1 "the fool hath said in his heart there is a God"-From a 1763 misprinted edition of the bible
Argument from Sadism: Theist presents argument in a wall of text with no punctuation and wrong spelling. Atheist cannot read and is forced to concede.
Ravi Zacharias likes to play that card also.
And for Clarkson's benefit, "ignoramus" is Latin in origin, not Greek.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
The blasphemy challenge doesn't "work" (in regard to damning ourselves) because the holy spirit doesn't exist, and those taking the "challenge" are aware of that. However, the "you took that out of context" argument doesn't seem to fit Matthew 12:31 or Mark 3:29. The line is pretty clear, and Jesus does not soon after turn to his dicyples and explain that he only said it out of anger from being accused of having an evil possession and that it can be disregarded.
"I've yet to witness circumstance successfully manipulated through the babbling of ritualistic nonsense to an imaginary deity." -- me (josh)
If god can do anything, can he make a hot dog so big even he can't eat all of it?
The funny thing is that isn't not even Classical Latin, which might hint at a Greek origin. He has his history and language completely wrong. The French seemed to have used it as a legal term, but its current form, which would mean "we do not know" (first person plural present indicative of ignorare), is known more as a play of the same name written around 1600.
If he means that "agnostic" is derived from Greek, and means almost the same thing, then he's right. But only in the original senses, which weren't invented by the ancients.
Saint Will: no gyration without funkstification.
fabulae! nil satis firmi video quam ob rem accipere hunc mi expediat metum. - Terence
I see. You must first believe in the supernatural, infantile ju-ju to actually deny said ju-ju ! Thus ju-ju is not offended.
Now if you could spend a little time applying this interpretive "logic" to muslim cartoons, we could really put a dent in the sheer # of death fatwas !!
Ahhh, something useful !
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
George Orwell
Hmm, I didn't realize you'd bothered to reply. It's such old news, and has already been addressed ad nauseam. The short answer is that it was meant to get attention, which it did; and the theological details only matter if someone believes they do, which I don't.
HOLY .....
GHOST .....
SPIRIT .....
WTF ? Can we take these words one at a time ,
Atheism Books.
Somebocy has never heard of "imminent critique"
ASSUMING CHRISTIANITY IS TRUE, those who take the blasphemy challenge are guilty of blasphemy.