I don't think Trump will do much militarily action unless there is another 9/11 type attack. Just worry about USA and cut off all immigration and visas from the Muslim world. Let Saudi Arabia and Iran deal with the mess they made. If there is any real security threat, Israel can deal with it.

Yet it was your Nobel prize winning party that started the wars in Syria and Libya, all while bombing Pakistan on a daily basis. Trump's rhetoric has been the most dovish of any presidential candidate in living memory. He clearly positioned himself as an isolationist. Whether that is how he will govern, I have my doubts.

Sadly, what's needed to wake people up to the broader threat of climate change is climate change. Lots and lots of it. 

Not necessarily, and it won't have any reducing effect on the total human carbon footprint either.

It's always hilarious when people make claims that absolutely prove they don't know shit about the subject matter. No single nation is soley responsible for climate change. Every nation contributes to it. The US has the highest 1st world (just barely) per capita emissions (but not even half the emissions per capita of some other countries), and China has the highest overall emissions; but even if both the US & China suddenly vanished from the face of the planet, the Earth would continue to warm up.

The fact that we've been debating various subjects for more than 8 years and you still haven't figured out that I'm not a leftist is extremely amusing.

Says who? Global warming trends began before global trade even existed.

See above.

So you're the earth? Because the only way you could personally and directly feel the entire planet's temperature shifting on even a seasonal basis would be if you were the planet itself.
FYI: it might be autumn in the Northern hemisphere, but it's spring in the South. While it cools off in North America, it's warming up in South America. But of course climate deniers never pay attention to the facts...

Your caricature of leftists is patently ridiculous. There are as many Brian37's on the left as there is nazi's on the right, so don't pretend otherwise.

If you'd learned that astronomy lesson at 5 then you wouldn't have made the ridiculous implication that because we are approaching winter in this hemisphere, the earth must not be warming. So clearly you didn't learn that lesson, and as you didn't retract the fabrication you must still not have learned that lesson.

We don't have the technology or the knowledge necessary to create and maintain climate conditions of our choosing. A time when we could accomplish such is so far away as to be unforeseeable.

Population control wouldn't necessarily even accomplish anything, and even if it did it would be 40 odd years before any real impact could occur anyway.

Neither of your suggestions has any merit whatsoever.

Whereas making the use of pollutants more expensive will drive investment and innovation into cleaner technologies without crashing the global economy by forcing an immediate cessation of pollutants. A few more dollars in taxes per year for a cleaner environment in general, and a more sustainable one to boot, is to the interest of every species on earth.

Your ignorant vote weighs nothing against those numbers. You have no choice. Get over it.

Never mind the fact that Trump literally admitted to all those things during the campaign. You aren't a leftist wacko just for using someone's own words and actions against them. If Trump hadn't admitted or demonstrated every single one of those you might have a point, but he did so you don't.

If engineers could "save us" they would have some time over the last 4 decades. If corporations were even willing to attempt it then they wouldn't have spent billions of dollars driving misinformation over the last 4 decades. What else is there but the bureaucracy?

trump won't even serve out his first fucking term. he's alienated the entire goddamn congress. republican lawmakers might be paying him lip-service now, but they'll never forgive him for upsetting the old guard. they'll be looking for any pretext to impeach him, and if the house decides to do it, then he'll be before the senate, at which point he won't have a snowball's chance in hell in front of mcconnell and his ilk.


that is, unless he upsets the status quo too much. then certain men in the basement of the pentagon will do to him what they did to kennedy. except now they'll be smart enough to make it look like a murder/suicide with a common prostitute in a limo parked a few yards off the vegas strip.


either way, the only good fascist is a dead fascist.

You can go back and read Trump's speach. He was clearly refering to illegal migrants from Mexico. He even says they are not sending their best. Meaning Mexicans that don't break our laws are good people.

You've mistaken me for someone else. The government should facillitate building of infrastructure. What should not happen is people should not be force to pay for it if they receive little or no benefit. Because this model is unsustainable. If a thief comes in an steals money, the owners of that money move themselves or their money away.

I think I'm more socialist than anyone on this site. If socialism is a rational social contract. Most socialism like Bernie Sanders is wealth transfer from producers to losers like the Trump protesters. He wants to give free education. But you don't have to study something useful like climate engineering or solving the doctor shortage. No, its follow your heart because government is your Santa Clause with a magic wand. That is not socialism its' insanity. Its a special interest money grab, the special interest is lazy losers.

Invention is not work. It is just putting an idea down on paper. Few people going to dedicate a lot of hours to something unless their is a payoff. Climate engineering may happen without government help, because of billionare donors like Bill Gates and some volunteers. Government is totally bogged down with corporte welfare, government union welfare and lazy loser welfare.

Was it good for Native Americans to have massive immigration into their society? Was it good for the Roman empire that they could not defend their borders?

I've never once read or listened to a speech by a president nor contender for president. You Americans make too many speeches. The last time you did something worth a speech was 1969.

Since ~2007, the Mexican population in the US has been shrinking. They aren't sending anyone, let alone their best or worst. The whole illegal immigrant thing is ridiculous. Not only are they necessary for the US to function due to a foolish economic system, but there aren't very many of them and the majority of those that are there are more law abiding than US-born citizens.

How do you determine who benefits from what and by how much? 100 million more government employees? The current system is the only system that makes sense. Noone in the country fails to receive any benefit from government, therefore having everyone pay into a pool that gets divided up to cover projects makes the most sense. Tailoring everyone's taxes to how much benefit they get from roads, health, police, etc would make a ridiculously complex tax system absolutely impossible to decipher, even by the IRS.

Lol no.

You got that backwards. Producers get treated like shit. It's the losers who have all the money right now.

Which any intelligent person would agree with. Even some stupid people, like Brian37, can somehow sense that a free education system would be extremely beneficial.

Says who? Bernie never got far enough along on his campaign to bother communicating how it would be implemented to the public.

Bullshit. You have to actually build things, test them, refine them. It takes work.

No. We don't know enough about how the climate works to predict the weather a week from now. We are nowhere near capable of engineering the climate of a planet, and we won't ever be in our lifetimes.

Native Americans didn't have an immigrant problem. They had a military problem. They failed to recognise it and were conquered. The Roman Empire was already well into its collapse before its borders were breached, because they overextended just like the US is now.

Because not everyone can pay, because individual profit matters more to those in power than the profit of society in general. Much of society shares that opinion in the foolish hope they can one day be one of the rich, as they've bought into the lie of capitalism. But it doesn't have to be that way.

Because they have the vast majority of the wealth. They'd pay less taxes if they paid themselves less and their employees more, and their employees would start paying taxes, or more taxes. But those with the most money are generally more interested at making more money, often by reducing salaries and cutting labour forces. They quite literally brought the tax man on themselves.
Not that the richest even pay taxes. Certainly not their fair share.

No business in history has ever created a system capable of charging usage for so many services simultaneously, many of which have never in history even had charges associated with them. The electric company only measures your electric usage, not the number of times you call the police or how much water you use and a thousand thousand other services. Your comparison is irretrievably faulty.

Yes I do. I can't wait for the day the US is no longer in a position to force that ridiculous and broken system on the rest of the world.

No. Obviously it is you who doesn't know how the US patent system works.

Doesnt mean there is one. Often there isn't, or it's a fraction of the value.

The government has been doing exactly that for years. What rock have you been hiding under?

Noone ever suggested it would be easy, cheap, or convenient. If you don't want to pay for it then quit earning money (which the government not only allows you to do but even facilitates the process) so you don't have to pay taxes.
Also, electric powered vehicles are as fast as gas powered these days.

And do who knows what in the process. Personally I'm not a fan of attempting such a massive project when the results would be unpredictable. Maybe if we could try it somewhere other than where we actually live first, and make sure we don't fuck it up. But that isn't an option.

No. Your claim is wrong, and you are off by at least a century.
As it turns out, politically it has been far easier to manipulate emissions than to engineer the entire planet. Much progress has been made politically, absolutely no progress technically.

Their civillians were never disarmed. Even today they still have arms, provided they want them. They weren't incapable of defending themselves either, they simply made mistakes. Not resisting immigration wasn't one of them. Not resisting the explorers and military footholds was, but by the time immigration began in earnest they were in no position to be able to resist.

It was the christians who were conquering in the first place. The muslims are in no position to conquer the America's. Which is what they'd have to do in order to become the dominant religious group.

What?

Lol.