Catholics sue Obama for Birth Control
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Catholics sue over Obama birth control mandate
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Hopefully the crap is thrown out as the religious attempt to subvert the laws and right to govern of the nation for which it is.
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I hope the President send in Seal Team Six to capture or kill the leader of this criminal enterprise known for it's sobourning of justice and it's defense of child rapist. Bring back Ratzinger in chains or in a bag...either way is good.
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doesn't seem to realise religious freedom doesn't extend to the right to impress your religious dogma onto others. Just goes to show monotheism is, centrally, bigotry. Rather than pursuing child abusing priests the church maintains its stupidity in relation to clerical marriage, a shift that would surely improve the lives of the clergy, and it labels the free choices of others as 'sin' not as personal freedoms enshrined in law, as its freedoms are enshrined. When it comes to these matters, it is about individual choice. There is no blanket external morality that applies here.
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Who is imposing their moral views on whom? I'm with the church here for non-religious reasons. It is bullshit that the government thinks it is OK to tell people what health insurance they must buy. Why do I, a single male who is incapable of having children without medical intervention, be required to purchase an insurance policy that covers birth control, while if I went batshit crazy and decided I wanted to have kids, my insurance isn't covering it?
The issue isn't whether or not employees can make the choice to purchase their own birth control. The issue is whether or not employers must pay for it. The church is right, they shouldn't be forced to pay for birth control, or any of a dozen other insurance coverages that are typically optional (maternity, viagra, glasses, annual physicals etc.) because insurance is the most expensive way to pay for these predictable and regular expenses.
The entire point of insurance is to protect you from large unexpected expenses, using insurance as a vehicle to pay for the expected or inexpensive is stupid and a waste of money that simply pads the pockets of insurers. If you are an individual and you buy one of these policies you are making a poor personal financial decision, forcing employers to pay for that poor decision is disgusting and it won't be a surprise when the result is lower wages. This fucked up law is managing to be even more inefficient than a straight up government takeover of the whole medical system.
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This is the biggest f*ckin joke!
One of the local radio hosts mentioned how 2 MAJOR Catholic hospitals actually provide birth control to their employees and even did it during the Bush years!! LMAO! The crazy ChirstNUTS are owned!!
Catholic hospitals do it all over the nation yet they keep on trying to make a big deal about it just because Obama is black! Obviously it's something personal against Obama since they sure as hell weren't complaining about it when Bush was president!
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There is a huge difference between a hospital (or any employer) that provides a benefit voluntarily and being forced to do so by the government. There are a lot of things I do voluntarily that would piss me off if I was forced by law to do. Your point that some catholic hospitals already provided the benefit just begs the question, why do we need a law?
If having your birth control paid for by your employer is that important for you, work somewhere that provides that benefit. If I were an employee I would rather have an extra $50 a month in my paycheck and decide how to spend it myself. What is so wrong about just paying employees cash and letting the employee choose what to buy with it?
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
Abso----fuckin----lutely-----nothing. NOW try to get the employe to fork over money in-lieu-of benifits; the economic reality is 'a package deal' is more cost efficient then a 'one on one deal'. I'm conservative as hell but I don't see that happening; ever.
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You aren't forced to buy it! The contraception is available to you at these CATHOLIC hospitals if you want it! Their hypocrisy is ridiculous!
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The Catholic church likes to throw its political weight around when it comes to issues like contraception and gay marriage instead of focusing on social justice issues even when they're clearly out of touch with the values and cultures in the nations they do this in.
Given that the Vatican is an advocate of universal health care I think it shows a true lack of regard for the American people and the process of achieving it, and I hope the odious political gamesmanship of doing that 6 months before a general election in a country really helps to lower the image of the Catholic church even further.
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What they are suing over is the requirement that they purchase insurance that covers birth control for their employees. So yes, they are being forced to purchase it for their employees and they don't want to. If they weren't being forced to purchase it, they wouldn't have legal standing for a lawsuit.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X