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Wow, I really don't know what to say about this other than this is the first time ever I have seen a question like this.

We are not you, so we cant decide for you what position you take.

HOWEVER, we can tell you a better path to take when deciding.

1. Don't believe everything you read, hear or see just because it sounds nice.

2. Be willing to do research and be willing to give up on bad data when proven wrong. There is nothing wrong with admitting when one is wrong, that is how one learns in life.

Having said that, I can only speak for myself as far as my own position.

Why don't I buy any god belief or superstition?

All labels and holy books aside, it is simple.

Nothing outside biological evolution has the capability of thought, Thoughts are not things, but a word humans use to describe the outcome of mental processes. Much like "running" is not a thing, but the result of moving your material legs faster and faster in a forward motion.

If you can accept that the claims of others are mere myth, we would say that we reject all myth for that same reason. Humans make up gods.

Suggested reading and terms you should learn.

1. Why People Believe Weird Things, Micheal Shermer

2. The New Atheism, Victor Stinger

3. The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins

Terms you should know.

1. The problem with "Infinite regress"

2. The fallacy of Pascal's Wager

3. Bentrand Russell's "teapot"

4. Fallacy argument from "complexity"

5. Burden of proof, the fallacy of "Prove it isn't true"

6. Ocham's Razor "Out of many different guesses as answers to a problem, the one with the least baggage is the most likely answer"

You sound young. We are not here to lead you. You determine your own path. We can only tell you what we have done ourselves, and advise you on the land mines of use of bad logic that leads many to false conclusions.

Educate yourself and DONT take anyone's word for it. What I listed above took me 10 years, and that is not the complete list of stuff I have read. Ultimately you can only be yourself, and you are the one who has to live with you.

Well You all had "intereesting" thoughts. Brian you were thoughtful thank you. You seem like a nice person. So basically you became an atheist because you decided that evolutionary thinking is the only thing that is right and thus is the foundation for your thinking?

I have heard of the non atheist side to this. There are various views of creationisn. young earth, progressive, old earth, theistic evolution, and my favorite, the aliens did it.

I believe the fundalmentalists prescribe to the young earth. Has this truly been disproven?

On the flip side, there are different kinds of evolution. For example, theistic evolution like above fits in both categories, there's the pre-darwinian like George Cuvier and actually as early as the Stoics has a kind of evolutionary theory. There's a kind of Lamark which believe for example that evolution was dependant completely on environment which was not totally classical Darwinism. Then you have Neo-Darwinism, etc.

For example, 20 years ago evolutionists would dogmatically opposed to anything catastrophism. In fact, in studying the scab lands in the Pacific Northwest, catastrophy was issued and the person who even thought of it was ultimately humilitaed for even thinking about it. Everything must no matter what be within the uniformitarian framework.

However recently, with various geologicail creationists doing primary work, NOW evolutionist are considering catastrophy instead of uniformitarianism. This has cause a shism in the evolutionary movement and now we have two theories that hate eachother.

I'm not saying I subscribe to this, just relaying the history of things. So when you say you have evolution as the only frame work, what kind of evolution are you talking about.

And if your answer is whatever is the most recent up to date scientifically approved data up there, then that would be catastrophism slowly winning out Unitarianiam in Evolution circiles.

Which goes back to Creationism since they have been scoffed from the beginning since this is so non Lyell thinking.

So Evolution as a theory as been weakened and Christaintiy has been strengthed a result.

But again Brian, i'm not prescribing to any of them per sa, just need direction. If you could get a little more specific with evolution being your framework for everything and anything I'd appreciate it it.

Thank you.

No sane person wants to be an idiot who blames the Japanese Tsunami on America not sucking up to your god. 13,000 people died.

Go take your meds.

Poor guy didn't even make it to post #12.

I found it. Here's your other fake "Hi I'm new" post.