Rugby jock says stroke turned him gay

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Rugby jock says stroke turned him gay

Rugby jock says stroke turned him gay

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Strokes can have strange consequences. Some stroke victims wind up with different accents, others with different personalities. Chris Birch said he discovered he was gay when he woke up after a stroke.

The 26-year-old Welshman suffered a stroke after breaking his neck while attempting a back flip at a gym, The Daily Mail reported. His then-fiancée and family stayed by his side, but when he woke, something had changed.

"It sounds strange, but when I came round I immediately felt different," Birch told the paper. "I wasn't interested in women any more. I was definitely gay. I had never been attracted to a man before - I'd never even had any gay friends."

Before the stroke, Birch was a banker who loved playing rugby, watching sports, and drinking beer with his buds. After the stroke, he found he had little in common with his blokes, quit his job to train as a hairdresser, and started dating a man.

"I went back to my job in the bank and tried hard to fit back into things but it didn't seem right anymore," Birch told The Mirror last month. "Suddenly, I hated everything about my old life. I didn't get on with my friends, hated sport, and found my job boring."

He also focused more on his appearance, lost a lot of weight - and became more confident.

Birch's neurologist told him the changes in his personality could be from the stroke "opening up" a different part of his brain, according to the Daily Mail.

What do experts have to say - can a stroke really turn you gay?

Dr. Ira G. Rashbaum, professor of rehabilitation medicine and chief of stroke rehab at NYU Langone Medical Center, wouldn't speculate on this specific case since he wasn't involved in Birch's care, but he told CBS News that it's quite common to see personality changes in patients following a stroke.

Rashbaum said some recovering stroke patients might experience anxiety, depression, or difficulties paying attention. In some cases if a stroke affects the brain's frontal lobe - which controls inhibition - a previously quiet person might become angrier, suddenly telling others off.

But a full-blown personality change?

"This is a more rare circumstance, certainly not a common thing" he told CBS News. He added that profound personality changes usually aren't permanent following rehabilitation with a team that might include psychologists and social workers.

Joe Korner, director of communications for The Stroke Association in the U.K., told CBS News in an email that he's never personally heard of a stroke changing someone's sexuality, but he doesn't doubt the stroke had some impact on Birch's life.

"Strokes are traumatic, life-changing experiences, which can make you reassess life and your feelings so perhaps that's the reason behind it," Korner said. "Whether or not the stroke turned Chris gay, or whether he was gay anyway but unaware of it, his experience seems to be a positive one, which is great."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57320571-10391704/rugby-jock-says-stroke-turned-him-gay

I just don't know what to make of this. It seems to be saying a lot about the brain and the static view of religion has another chink in it

 

 

 

 

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Trauma and desease can

Trauma and desease can affect the brain. But since this was a story and not a study with control groups, the other alturnitive may be that this guy knew he was gay before and used the stroke as an excuse.

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Everything is speculation.

Everything is speculation. Everything we know suggests the possibility that this could in fact happen. Similarly, everything we know suggests multiple alternatives.
We have no way of proving it actually did, or didn't. Hopefully the data gathered can become more useful in the future when technology and knowledge improve. For now, it's a landmark case with insufficient information to explain.

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A stroke made him Gay ?

 OK, lets assume that this clown (Guy) is telling us the truth, I say good for him !  Being a landmark case and all, it just makes me LOL ! I wonder if this guy was married and this is his way out of a Loveless marriage, Hmmmm .....

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Regardless of the facts

 

 

it's a pretty damn funny subject title...


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Ken G. wrote: OK, lets

Ken G. wrote:

 OK, lets assume that this clown (Guy) is telling us the truth, I say good for him !  Being a landmark case and all, it just makes me LOL ! I wonder if this guy was married and this is his way out of a Loveless marriage, Hmmmm .....

I think the most likely scenario isn't a matter of his brain actually functioning differently as result of the stroke, or that he simply used it as a convenient excuse, but rather simply going through a traumatic event shook a lot of the filters that determined his conscious experience, allowing deeper, more repressed and less accessed aspects of his nature to come through, uninhibited.

It's harder for me to buy the idea that he's just using it as an excuse because any number of the reasons why he'd never have wanted to come out in the first place couldn't really change by just being able to say "I had a stroke and it did this to me!" Fear of judgement, fear of being treated differently, those things would still be present.


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  Phineas Gage.  Traumatic

  Phineas Gage.  Traumatic brain injury results in complete transformation of personality.  

 

                                                      http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/12/04/the-incredible-case-of-phineas-gage/


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ProzacDeathWish wrote: 

ProzacDeathWish wrote:

  Phineas Gage.  Traumatic brain injury results in complete transformation of personality.  

 

                                                      http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/12/04/the-incredible-case-of-phineas-gage/

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Better spread this news to the one I suspect being gay.

Wait till this cousin of mine whom I suspect being gay hear this news. This could be his best reason to come out in the open by trying a little stroke on his sexuality issue.