Why are Atheists So Angry?

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"Why are all atheists so angry?" I hear this question all the time. In fact, my Rambo-Kitty avatar is partially inspired by the question. Anyway, today I was reading an article about the debate between Sam Harris and Rick Warren, and was struck by Warren's statement, "I've never met an atheist who wasn't angry." My first reaction was denial. Many atheists, myself included, are happy most of the time. My atheist friends are great fun to hang out with. We laugh and joke and drink beer, and hardly ever mention religion. My second reaction, I confess, was anger. How dishonest of him to try to discount atheism by labeling us all as angry malcontents! This is exactly why people like him make me angry! That's when it hit me, square in the forehead. He's not being dishonest. I don't doubt that every atheist he's met has been angry. If I met him, he'd almost certainly make me angry, too. That's just it! HE makes atheists angry, so they're all angry around him. So, I forgive him for thinking that all atheists are angry. I understand how he made the mistake.

Anyway, I'd like to reflect on "Atheist Anger" for a few minutes, and ask a couple of questions. First, why is it a bad thing to be angry? The suffragists were quite angry, and for good reason. New Zealand had granted women equal voting rights in 1893, and America, supposedly the land of equality, was violently opposed to the idea twenty years later. There are still plenty of women who are angry because women make less money doing the same jobs as men in many industries, and women are often not even considered for promotions when they're equally (or better) qualified for the position. Are they wrong for being angry? Should they just sit quietly and wait for men to realize the error of their ways? Some people think so. I've noticed that the majority of them are men. Am I making a valid comparison? Is it reasonable to compare life as an atheist in America in 2007 to life as a woman in the early 20th century? Clearly there are significant differences. Atheists can vote. They can, in theory, hold public office. They can get married, sign contracts, work wherever they're qualified.

So, do we atheists have a right to be angry in the same way suffragists had? To answer that question, I'll recall some more history. In Mosaic law, as we all know, women were slightly better than slaves. They had no property rights. In Roman law, women were completely dependent on male relations for all legal matters, and when they were married, it was a matter of purchase between two families. Here, we can ask a pointed question. Do women have the right to be angry that they're not making as much as men in the workplace? After all, they can vote, own property, divorce their husband, sue him for child support and alimony, and live quite happily on their own. This country is one of the best places in the world to be a woman! What right do women have to be angry?

If your skin prickled a little bit when you read the previous paragraph, good for you. You're halfway to understanding why atheists have a right to be mad. The reason women still have a right to be mad is that things are still not equal. They have no obligation to remain silent simply because they have it better than someone who lived a hundred, or a thousand years ago. The reason women have it better now is that people were angry all through history, and made small gains here and there over many generations. Without the fuel of anger, women would still be property, and wouldn't even have the opportunity to be mad about making less money in the workplace.

So, what about us atheists? Do we have a right to be mad? Actually, yes. Did you know we've had atheist presidents? We have. I'll let you do your own homework on this, but it might surprise you to learn that many of the leaders of the U.S. throughout history have been openly atheist. Is this possible today? One congressman in California recently admitted to being atheist, and it caused a nationwide stir! It remains to be seen whether he'll be reelected. To be sure, he'll be attacked for being godless and amoral when election time comes around. Until the McCarthy Era, the pledge of allegiance didn't have the word "God." Paper money didn't have "In God We Trust." Until the 70s, Christians were not actively involved in politics for the purpose of legislating religious values. Clearly, America is more theist than it used to be, at least politically.

So, are things getting better for atheists? I dare say they're not. Unlike women, our situation is not improving. We are not being afforded more respect. Rather, we are being legislatively pushed farther into the margins where we have been quietly lurking for sixty years since the Red Scare. To bring things back around, recall my comment about my atheist friends and I sitting around having beers and laughs. This is a good picture for you to hold in your mind's eye when you think of me, or any other atheist. This is what we want. We don't like being angry any more than women who'd like to be paid more. I'm sure all the angry feminists would rather things were better for women so they wouldn't have to be angry anymore. It's the same with atheists. If we were a bit less hated, vilified, and marginalized, it would be a lot easier for us to be in the presence of theists and not get angry.

Why are atheists so angry? Because things could be better, and we don't like being marginalized.

Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin

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Great blog, hamby!  I wish

Great blog, hamby!  I wish there were a way to recommend posts / blogs on this site.  This is a must-read. Smiling

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Very well said, Hamby.  I

Very well said, Hamby.  I think you've really made an excellent point.

 Thank you for the insight.

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That was very well said.

That was very well said.

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Excellent post, Hamby, and I

Excellent post, Hamby, and I completely agree with you. I confess that I get angry at one thing I don't think you mentioned. I get angry at the absurdity of a so-called civilized society basing their lives and much of their government on superstition. It freaks me out.

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Hambydammit's picture

Thanks for the kind words,

Thanks for the kind words, ladies and gents.

 GHM, I'm actually tossing around an idea or two that might work their way into an essay dealing with religiously based societies.  We'll see.  I don't get to read as much as I used to, so essays don't form themselves quite so often.


Atheism isn't a lot like religion at all. Unless by "religion" you mean "not religion". --Ciarin

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BenfromCanada's picture

*applause* Personally, I'd


Personally, I'd rather laugh than shout. But I can't, just yet. 

the president

I am a long-time reader and a first-time poster.  I am not trying to sound like a jerk when I ask this, but I was looking and was unable to find which president was atheist.  Could you please let me know.

    the wonderer .... the

    the wonderer .... the "founding fathers", they called themselves Deists, .... read what they wrote, you decide, ....  it was just a more polically friendly way to say F the church and god of abe ..... go googling , religion of the founding fathers , etc etc, great stuff, gezzz we are so lucky ....

being a jesus philosophy fan is one thing, that ain't even christian dogma shit, .... jesus was a closet ATHEIST ! ... the bible lies ....


While I think you made some excellent points and agree with most, you made one factual error. "In God We Trust" was on coins since the civil war, but wasn't added to paper currency until the 60's. http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html

Not being picky (ok maybe a little) but I think athiests are stronger the more correct informaton they have.

Bravo!  Well put, as

Bravo!  Well put, as usual.



Hambydammit's picture

Glasslemur, it's a fair

Glasslemur, it's a fair point. I've changed the wording to reflect the facts. Oddly, my info say that the paper money phrase was added in 1954.  I'm going to do some homework.  I hope the interum correction is ok.



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Bulldog's picture

The law was passed in 1956

The law was passed in 1956 and the first use of "in god we trust" was in 1957.

as far as i can tell

as far as i can tell observing myself, it isn't anger so much as intense frustration.  it's exasperating hearing the same idiotic bleating three times per day.  it certainly expresses itself as anger, sometimes.

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Wonderer, Abe Lincoln is the

Wonderer, Abe Lincoln is the only president actually known to have been an atheist.  His wife and several friends urged him to not let it be known publicly when he was running because bigotry by xtians was evident even then.  Of the founding fathers most were deists and they pretty much dismissed xtianity as a violent and absurd belief and none believed in the divinity of jeebus.

"Erecting the 'wall of separation between church and state,' therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society." Thomas Jefferson

the wonderer wrote:I am a

the wonderer wrote:
I am a long-time reader and a first-time poster.  I am not trying to sound like a jerk when I ask this, but I was looking and was unable to find which president was atheist.  Could you please let me know.

Take a look at:


Which gives a good overview of the religious (or not!) affiliations of US presidents:



For this reason there are

For this reason there are lots of misogynists who think all feminists are angry malcontents. Same thing we're lovely sunny people except when in the presence of malicious bigots.