A declaration of my existence.
Hi, I'm ThaiBoxerShorts, aka John. This is my introduction.
I've participated in online discussions and debates about religion and lack thereof for quite a while, but I've only recently decided to seek out online comminuties specifically dedicated to non-theism. Partly because everyone needs a shelter from the storm occasionally, and partly because lately I've been wanting to take a more activist approach, and coordinating with like-minded people online seems like a good way to start.
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Very nice to meet you! I agree with so much of your post that it just makes sense to say "good post". I'm interested in social psychology as well, my field is clinical psychology along with interests in logic, philosophy and cosmology...
"Hitler burned people like Anne Frank, for that we call him evil.
"God" burns Anne Frank eternally. For that, theists call him 'good.'
Hi John. Love the name "ThaiBoxerShorts"!
With your background, it sounds like you'll have a lot to contribute to the forums. We'll look forward to hearing from you.
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When people ask if they can pray for me I say something like, you don't have to do that, or no thank you. When people ask me about my religion I may say something like "I don't believe in your god". I try to be firm and project an air of confidence.
I rarely debate people. I just prefer to tell them that my beliefs are well founded and unless they have some kind of astounding evidence that numerous other preachers, priests, theologians and faithful haven't been able to provide, that they are wasting my time and theirs.
Tell them that you will accept nothing less than tangible proof. Unless they can perform a miracle for you or unless they can produce something that you can see, hear, smell taste or touch, then all that they have is faith. Tell them that it is no more reasonable for you to share their faith in god than it would be for them to share your faith that you can chant some gibberish and turn a beer can into a gold bar.
I don't know anyone who will accept prayers in place of tangibles. Not a landlord, a utility company, a banker, an employer, hungry children. Give this a try. Tell your boss that you are going to stay home tomorrow and pray your work done. Tell the kids that you are going to pray hot dinner on the table or tell your banker that you are going to pray a deposit. Oh?! What is that? That is just absurd? Why is this? Because god can't produce the goods when asked to. Period. To me, it's all absurd.
Be the change that you want to see. If you want to see a god-less world, then don't be afraid to live as if god does not exist and that those who believe in god are nothing short of delusional.
Now I will try to take my own advice.
Peace,
TheGrapeOfWrath.
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Welcome to the forums. I wish you a great time and fruitfulness out of the effort.
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