Are baby kittens born atheists?

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Are baby kittens born atheists?

I'm teetering on weather or not my cat should be an outdoor cat. Not for fear of a neighboorhood dog running amuck, or the chance of it becoming roadlunch, but of other cats. Christian cats for the matter. And besides, I'm already home schooling my children for the same reason.

 

Seriously though, for the sake of humor, what's the difference in this arguement? Baby kitten and babies both have similiar cognative functions. What separates the kitten from the babe?


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Depends on if a kitten

Depends on if a kitten knows they exist...

 See, cats were once treated like gods, and they haven't forgotten that.  So if the kitten knows it exists, then it knows it is a god. Sticking out tongue

 

More seriously, I am not sure. 

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I don't think it matters. I

I don't think it matters. I seem to recall something about cats being halfway in hell anyway. At least we'll have company when we're upside down in the flaming litter box. lol.

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There are no atheists in

There are no atheists in foxholes.  Likewise, there are no atheist kittens in a burlap sack sinking in a pond.

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Bornright wrote: What

Bornright wrote:

What separates the kitten from the babe?

Nothing in terms of religious belief.  They're both atheist.  Keep in mind though that something about dogs is different, for some reason dogs go to heaven. Eye-wink

 

 

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All cats are atheists:

All cats are atheists:


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Jesus said, "For I say unto

Jesus said, "For I say unto you. Love kitties with all your heart, and all your soul, and all your mind. The greatest things in the world are faith, hope, and kitties. But the greatest of these is kitties."

 

Jesus loves the little kitties

All the kitties of the world

tabby, orange, black and white

they are precious in his sight

Jesus loves the little kitties of the world.

 

Seriously, the only difference bewteen baby kitties and baby humans is that millions of years ago one evolved into a cat and the other evolved into a human.

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As far as I am concerned,

As far as I am concerned, the universe and everything in it is godless.


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Kittens can't be atheist

Kittens can't be atheist because every time you masturbate, god kills one of em.


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silentseba wrote: Kittens

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Kittens can't be atheist because every time you masturbate, god kills one of em.

No, Silent, that's not God; it's me!  I just assumed that's what happened when one used a kitten in that way.  Am I wrong?

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silentseba wrote: Kittens

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Kittens can't be atheist because every time you masturbate, god kills one of em.

 I was just about to say..... 

 


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Ok guys, I'd play go ahead

Ok guys, I'd go ahead and play dodgeball with the rest of you if it weren't for the fact I'm feeling more allergic to balls than Ted Haggard when his wife invites him to an Evengelical teabag convention.

Just answer the question.

 

 

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Bornright wrote: I'm

Bornright wrote:

I'm teetering on weather or not my cat should be an outdoor cat.

I hope this is part of the joke.  Please, please, please don't have your kitty roaming around outside!  Roadkill, other critters, diseases, humans, poisons (such as fertilizers and antifreeze), fleas, getting lost (yes, a cat can get lost), and a host of other nasty things. 

Life spans are usually much shorter for kitties that are outdoors or go outdoors.  A well-cared for, indoor kitty with good veterinary care can easily live to be 15 to 20 years old. 

 

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Seriously though, for the sake of humor, what's the difference in this arguement? Baby kitten and babies both have similiar cognative functions. What separates the kitten from the babe?

Actually, the kitten matures much more quickly than a human child.  A 6 month old kitten is considered a teenager and is an adult within 1 to 2 years, depending on the breed.

A kitten is up and walking, eating on its own, climbing the curtains, grooming itself and finding the litter box within weeks.  Most of these things are learned from the mother or caregiver.  So it would stand to reason that the ability to learn self-sufficiency begins much earlier for a kitten.

The difference comes in where the human child ultimately has a greater learning capacity and can think abstractly.  I'm not aware of any kitties that can do that (unless they're just keeping it a secret).

 

 

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Susan wrote:

Susan wrote:
Bornright wrote:

I'm teetering on weather or not my cat should be an outdoor cat.

I hope this is part of the joke. Please, please, please don't have your kitty roaming around outside! Roadkill, other critters, diseases, humans, poisons (such as fertilizers and antifreeze), fleas, getting lost (yes, a cat can get lost), and a host of other nasty things.

Life spans are usually much shorter for kitties that are outdoors or go outdoors. A well-cared for, indoor kitty with good veterinary care can easily live to be 15 to 20 years old.

 

Yeah, but much like pirates, outdoor cats get more booty.

 

 

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The difference comes in where the human child ultimately has a greater learning capacity and can think abstractly. I'm not aware of any kitties that can do that (unless they're just keeping it a secret).

Yes, human child. But what about a human baby. At what point is a baby considered an atheist? If there is such a point, what is the child before it is considered an atheist?

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Bornright wrote: Yeah, but

Bornright wrote:

Yeah, but much like pirates, outdoor cats get more booty.

Aaaaarrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!

Please please please tell me your cat has been altered!

Please!

No one wants me to start posting about the benefits of spay/neuter.  (Trust me on that.)  But I will if I have to!

 

 

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Bornright wrote: Baby

Bornright wrote:
Baby kitten and babies both have similiar cognative functions. What separates the kitten from the babe?


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Just answer the question.
Are you asking if a baby is atheist because babies do not know anything? An adult cat does not know anything either. But then a tree cannot know nor a rock.

An atheist is someone who after learning about the concept of "god" discounts the idea as bullshit.

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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Susan wrote: Bornright

Susan wrote:
Bornright wrote:

Yeah, but much like pirates, outdoor cats get more booty.

Aaaaarrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!

Please please please tell me your cat has been altered!

Please!

No one wants me to start posting about the benefits of spay/neuter.  (Trust me on that.)  But I will if I have to!

 

Pray, do! Let's put a spin on it though. Let's discuss spay/neutering kittens and human babies alike.  Perhaps only the first child of any mother is the only child fit to breed.  THe second or third would have surgery as an infant.  That puts a spin on "Marsha Marsha Marsha!"

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AiiA wrote: Bornright

AiiA wrote:

Bornright wrote:
Baby kitten and babies both have similiar cognative functions. What separates the kitten from the babe?


Bornright wrote:
Just answer the question.
Are you asking if a baby is atheist because babies do not know anything? An adult cat does not know anything either. But then a tree cannot know nor a rock.

An atheist is someone who after learning about the concept of "god" discounts the idea as bullshit.

 

Then we have mixed responses in the room to my original question. Dawkings says every child is an atheist. I would venture to say every baby is an atheist. At what exact point does a baby become an atheist? 

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Matt, oh holy god. I almost spit coke out of my nose! 


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Bornright wrote: AiiA

Bornright wrote:
AiiA wrote:

Bornright wrote:
Baby kitten and babies both have similiar cognative functions. What separates the kitten from the babe?


Bornright wrote:
Just answer the question.
Are you asking if a baby is atheist because babies do not know anything? An adult cat does not know anything either. But then a tree cannot know nor a rock.

An atheist is someone who after learning about the concept of "god" discounts the idea as bullshit.

 

Then we have mixed responses in the room to my original question. Dawkings says every child is an atheist. I would venture to say every baby is an atheist. At what exact point does a baby become an atheist?

You tell me, its your belief.

People who think there is something they refer to as god don't ask enough questions.


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Bornright wrote: Then we

Bornright wrote:
Then we have mixed responses in the room to my original question. Dawkings says every child is an atheist. I would venture to say every baby is an atheist. At what exact point does a baby become an atheist?

So far as I can logically deduce, people are atheist until they are presented the idea of a god. If they believe that the idea of this god is true then they cease to be atheiss. 


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My cat, a seal point

My cat, a seal point siamese, says he's a Buddhist. But he's a lying sack of shit! He eats birds all the time. (look close he's got a blue jay)

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