Atheist, please answer this simple question...

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Atheist, please answer this simple question...

What has Atheism contributed to the world, that is unique to Atheism, would have been impossible without Atheism, and has made the world a better place?

(Note: I'm asking about things on earth.  Getting to go to heaven doesn't happen in this world.)

I'm probably not going to respond.  I'll leave that to other members.  I'm really just interested in collecting a list of answers.  I have no alterior motive......... at all. Smiling

Thanks.

Heh.  I'm just interested as to how exactly this thread would go. 

 


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Bibles for porn.... can it

Bibles for porn.... can it get any better than that?

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More taste; less

More taste; less filling.

 


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Rhad, you are such a wise

Rhad, you are such a wise ass. 

Atheism contributed me to the world.  I mean, what else could this world ask for? 

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The question makes no

The question makes no sense. You should have asked what has atheism done for heaven that can't be duplicated by Christianity. Nothing worldy counts.


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RhadTheGizmo wrote: What

RhadTheGizmo wrote:

What has Atheism contributed to the world, that is unique to Atheism, would have been impossible without Atheism, and has made the world a better place?

(Note: I'm asking about things on earth.  Getting to go to heaven doesn't happen in this world.)

I'm probably not going to respond.  I'll leave that to other members.  I'm really just interested in collecting a list of answers.  I have no alterior motive......... at all. Smiling

Thanks.

Heh.  I'm just interested as to how exactly this thread would go. 

 

Nothing. And, unlike theism, it was able to do it without a god. 

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Quote: Rhad, you are such a

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Rhad, you are such a wise ass.

What? I'm offended. Cool

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Atheism contributed me to the world.  I mean, what else could this world ask for? 

Sticking out tongue


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Quote: The question makes

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The question makes no sense. You should have asked what has atheism done for heaven that can't be duplicated by Christianity. Nothing worldy counts.

Hah.

 I really gotta stop coming to RRS.. it distracts me from work by all the hilarity and wit.

.....ah well, back to citations. 


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Quote: More taste; less

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More taste; less filling.

Miller Lite does it just as well... or so I hear.  Actually most people I know don't agree-- supposedly its nasty. 


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I gotta stop responding.. I

I gotta stop responding.. I said I wouldn't. :/


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I've got it....

I've got it....

All the great dead baby jokes:

http://www.skrause.org/humor/deadbaby.shtml

 

No way a theist could ever come up with these.

 

(this was meant as a pseudo-joke, I by no means endorse 'dead baby' jokes, unless you are into that kind of thing, then they are pretty funny..... anyway..... on with the show)

 

 

 


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RhadTheGizmo

RhadTheGizmo wrote:

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Rhad, you are such a wise ass.

What? I'm offended. Cool

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Atheism contributed me to the world. I mean, what else could this world ask for?

Sticking out tongue

Oh no you're not.  lol

And BGH.  I LOVE dead baby jokes.

 Have I sufficiently derailed this thread yet?  Smiling

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I think the qualifications,

I think the qualifications, "is unique to atheism, would have been impossible without atheism"
make this an impossible thing to fulfill.
Anything that is possible with theism is possible without it, and vice-versa.

Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.
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wavefreak wrote: The

wavefreak wrote:

The question makes no sense. You should have asked what has atheism done for heaven that can't be duplicated by Christianity. Nothing worldy counts.

The simple answer is nothing, since Heaven doesn't exist.

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What's so difficult about

What's so difficult about this?

Atheism is not a religion, nor a political philosophy, nor a committee, nor even a belief!  Since it is none of these things, it couldn't possibly make claims about what it contributes.  In fact, it makes no claims whatsoever!  It is simply a state of non-acceptance of someone else's claim.

Why would anyone expect it to contribute something?

The answer, therefore, is:

NOTHING.

I love simple questions!

 

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Are not most actions and

Are not most actions and thoughts without God?

We wouldn't have magnificent Churches if God kept getting in the way of planning and action Eye-wink

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Quote: I think the

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I think the qualifications, "is unique to atheism, would have been impossible without atheism" make this an impossible thing to fulfill.
Anything that is possible with theism is possible without it, and vice-versa.

Not impossible to fill! I just did it. Nothing. That's the answer. It really is a simple question. The OP is correct.

This has been a great exercise in not answering what you think is the implied conclusion to a simple question. I wish it had been as simple in my thread. Seems those pesky theists are determined not to answer my question for some reason, even though it's identical to this one.

I love this post, actually. Even though it was meant to be tongue in cheek (I think), it's done a great job of illustrating that my question was perfectly valid, and has a perfectly valid answer.

Can everyone see the danger in this question? If you try to figure out the "conclusion" you'll start twitching and twisting, trying to defend against the next point, when in reality, answering the question honestly leads to the truth.

This is how science works. You answer the questions. When you're done, you see what the conclusion is. If you start trying to avoid a conclusion by changing your answer ahead of time, you're not doing science anymore.

 

 

 

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Quote:

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This has been a great exercise in not answering what you think is the implied conclusion to a simple question. I wish it had been as simple in my thread. Seems those pesky theists are determined not to answer my question for some reason, even though it's identical to this one.

I love this post, actually. Even though it was meant to be tongue in cheek (I think), it's done a great job of illustrating that my question was perfectly valid, and has a perfectly valid answer.

Heh. Yes, it was kind of tongue and cheek.

However.. in order to add to my tongue and cheek :P-- [cough], um, I'd like to reformulate the question in light of this:

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Atheism is not a religion, nor a political philosophy, nor a committee, nor even a belief! Since it is none of these things, it couldn't possibly make claims about what it contributes. In fact, it makes no claims whatsoever! It is simply a state of non-acceptance of someone else's claim.

Alright.. What has anything contributed to the world, that is unique to it, would have been impossible without it, and has made the world a better place?

I think this might better represent the ridiculous-ness of the question better. Smiling

I think this guy has the right idea

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I think the qualifications, "is unique to [X], would have been impossible without [X]"
make this an impossible thing to fulfill.
Anything that is possible with [X] is possible without [X], and vice-versa.


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RhadTheGizmo

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More taste; less filling.

Miller Lite does it just as well... or so I hear. Actually most people I know don't agree-- supposedly its nasty.

If one could make a moral case for genocide (PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF SARCASM TO FOLLOW)

 If one could make a moral case for genocide, I'd go after the makers of that swill they call Miller Lite.

I dont think the terrorists in the Mildde East hate freedom or Christians, I think the real reason they attack us is because we offend Allah with that swill. 

The Quran talks about rivers of wine running in heaven. I doubt very seriously it is Mad Dog 20/20. Those people makers of MD should be gassed along with the makers of Miller Lite.

FOR THE LOVE OF HUMANITY STOP MAKING THAT GARBAGE. 

 LETS START A DRAFT(BADUM CHA) AGAINST BAD SPIRITS!

 

 

 

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Brian37 wrote: FOR THE

Brian37 wrote:

FOR THE LOVE OF HUMANITY STOP MAKING THAT GARBAGE.

LETS START A DRAFT(BADUM CHA) AGAINST BAD SPIRITS!

 

 

I KNEW you believed in evil spirits! 


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Quote: Alright.. What has

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Alright.. What has anything contributed to the world, that is unique to it, would have been impossible without it, and has made the world a better place?

I think this might better represent the ridiculous-ness of the question better. Smiling

There might be hope for you yet, Rhad.

You're so close to getting it, but I'm not going to tell you.  Hopefully one day you'll make the connection yourself.

 

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Existential angst,

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Quote: There might be hope

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There might be hope for you yet, Rhad.

Heh.  I'm an existential theist. A nihilistic christian. A foblog golbof.

Yah.. I don't know. :P