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How this website still exists!

 Brings back memories the time I spent here long ago. 

I am still unconfortable with the Theist badge like before (I'm Agnostic), but looking back on my posts and things I said I dramatically changed my mind on one topic.

I now say that free will does not exist and doens't make logical sense. I changed my mind dramatically about Sam Harris and I follow his podcast "religiously".

This forum looks dead though. Sign of the times we are living I guess... and that we all got older

 


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i'm happy it still exists,

i'm happy it still exists, if nothing else than as an archive of one of the most fruitful mass discussions in internet history. a very few still post here once in a great while. it's still a pipe dream of mine that more will come back here one day, as mainstream social media continually prove to be a stifling and corporately engineered form of discourse. if i were on twitter, i'd start #returntorrs.

 

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 Brian Sapient has done far

 Brian Sapient has done far more for the skeptic community than anyone can know. He is not your Hitchens or Dawkins, but just like A Phillip Randolph was to MLK, Brian Sapiant is a pilliar of the atheist/skepitic community. 

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Teralek wrote: Brings back

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 Brings back memories the time I spent here long ago. 

I am still unconfortable with the Theist badge like before (I'm Agnostic), but looking back on my posts and things I said I dramatically changed my mind on one topic.

I now say that free will does not exist and doens't make logical sense. I changed my mind dramatically about Sam Harris and I follow his podcast "religiously".

This forum looks dead though. Sign of the times we are living I guess... and that we all got older

 

 

Saying this website is dead, is like saying that because the combustion engine existed before Ford, much less, the modern Lamborgini esists. Brian Sapient's efforts are not lost because times have changed. Brian has had a huge impact on skepticism, and society in general. 

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 I'm surprised this site is

 I'm surprised this site is still here because traffic has dropped so much to almost non existent!

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 I'm surprised this site is

 I'm surprised this site is still here because traffic has dropped so much to almost non existent!

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i mean, one of my old

i mean, one of my old friends still has her old geocities-type site from the early '00s up. this website still exists because brian pays the bills and hasn't taken it down. it's not like websites just disappear because no one visits them.

 

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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 The  argument for free

 

The  argument for free speech is upheld by the fact that an avatar dipicts 3 assholes who lead to Stalin. So yea, I am glad this site still exists and can expose galactic stupidity.

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 Who got their theist badge

 Who got their theist badge removed? 

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I'm assuming Teralek.

I'm assuming Teralek.


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My advise is shut this

My advise is shut this website down. I was naive and thought it was a great idea that rationality could be promoted and that scientific methods could always be used to get at the truth. I would have even given money to promote such a movement if I saw it made progress in promoting rationality.

The fact is the mind creates its own reality. So people generally believe what they want to believe. So. very few people really want to have their views challenged or search for objective truths. People want to stay in the reality they created for themselves that provides their mind with comfort. So any quest for rationality and truth is doomed from the start by human nature.

 

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 People view this website

 People view this website every day, and not for me. It is  library with vital information and arguments for our positions. 

You don't like it because I challenge you on your "Hate all government, hate all taxes" garbage. 

 

It is low traffic as far as posts because Brian doesn't add new members because he doesn't have the time. But that does not mean new unique views are not happening every day. 

 

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 Everything Brian37 just

 Everything Brian37 just said was completely correct.

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EXC wrote:My advise is shut

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My advise is shut this website down. I was naive and thought it was a great idea that rationality could be promoted and that scientific methods could always be used to get at the truth. I would have even given money to promote such a movement if I saw it made progress in promoting rationality.

The fact is the mind creates its own reality. So people generally believe what they want to believe. So. very few people really want to have their views challenged or search for objective truths. People want to stay in the reality they created for themselves that provides their mind with comfort. So any quest for rationality and truth is doomed from the start by human nature.

 

Oh my god, fucking midlife crisis, fucking edgy, nihilistic diiiivaaaaa... Seriously, I used to write shit like this on exams when I was a sophomore in college.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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Sapient wrote: Everything

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 Everything Brian37 just said was completely correct.

Yes, it unequivocally was. Thanks, Brian Sapient, for keeping this running. By the way, how are you?

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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 I am glad this website is

 I am glad this website is still up. It also gives me the opportunity to annoy the fuck out of veryone with ABBA. 

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iwbiek wrote:EXC wrote:My

iwbiek wrote:

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My advise is shut this website down. I was naive and thought it was a great idea that rationality could be promoted and that scientific methods could always be used to get at the truth. I would have even given money to promote such a movement if I saw it made progress in promoting rationality.

The fact is the mind creates its own reality. So people generally believe what they want to believe. So. very few people really want to have their views challenged or search for objective truths. People want to stay in the reality they created for themselves that provides their mind with comfort. So any quest for rationality and truth is doomed from the start by human nature.

 

Oh my god, fucking midlife crisis, fucking edgy, nihilistic diiiivaaaaa... Seriously, I used to write shit like this on exams when I was a sophomore in college.

Thanks for proving my point. People don't want to engage in rational discussion. Just make up insults with anyone that disagrees and politcally, send em to the guillotine. Then claim you are on the side the oppressed, not an oppressor.

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EXC wrote:iwbiek wrote:EXC

EXC wrote:

iwbiek wrote:

EXC wrote:

My advise is shut this website down. I was naive and thought it was a great idea that rationality could be promoted and that scientific methods could always be used to get at the truth. I would have even given money to promote such a movement if I saw it made progress in promoting rationality.

The fact is the mind creates its own reality. So people generally believe what they want to believe. So. very few people really want to have their views challenged or search for objective truths. People want to stay in the reality they created for themselves that provides their mind with comfort. So any quest for rationality and truth is doomed from the start by human nature.

 

Oh my god, fucking midlife crisis, fucking edgy, nihilistic diiiivaaaaa... Seriously, I used to write shit like this on exams when I was a sophomore in college.

Thanks for proving my point. People don't want to engage in rational discussion. Just make up insults with anyone that disagrees and politcally, send em to the guillotine. Then claim you are on the side the oppressed, not an oppressor.



EXE, "Rational disscussion means just accept what I say because I know everything." 

 

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 <quote> My advise is shut

My advise is shut this website down. I was naive and thought it was a great idea that rationality could be promoted and that scientific methods could always be used to get at the truth. I would have even given money to promote such a movement if I saw it made progress in promoting rationality.

The fact is the mind creates its own reality. So people generally believe what they want to believe. So. very few people really want to have their views challenged or search for objective truths. People want to stay in the reality they created for themselves that provides their mind with comfort. So any quest for rationality and truth is doomed from the start by human nature.  

What happens if I read this and change my mind based on what you've written?

Doesn't that mean that my mind no longer creates its own reality and that people don't simply believe what they want to believe?

Then it turns out that I must disagree with your position, because my mind longer simply creates its own reality, it reacts to a reality outside of itself, I believe things other than what I want to believe.

But my position is based on reading your position!

Which means... my mind no longer creates its own reality and people do not believe simply what they want to believe!

Help! I'm stuck in a closed loop! Wait, no one can help me, because help would come from outside, a reality outside of my creation... and the help might not be something I like or want!

 


As a psycholgist I can make sense of your complaint. It's a paradoxical complaint. It's meant to engender a response to your words that contradicts it... the hope is that someone will react to your post and change their mind, regardless of their current desire. 


Seen that way, your comment can and does make sense only if we reword it thusly: It with people would show more respect for my point of view and even consider changing their views to match mine.

 

If you want that, an anonymous forum is about as a good a way to meeting that need as going to a brothel to find a life parnter. 

 

 

 

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todangst wrote:My advise is

todangst wrote:

My advise is shut this website down. I was naive and thought it was a great idea that rationality could be promoted and that scientific methods could always be used to get at the truth. I would have even given money to promote such a movement if I saw it made progress in promoting rationality.

The fact is the mind creates its own reality. So people generally believe what they want to believe. So. very few people really want to have their views challenged or search for objective truths. People want to stay in the reality they created for themselves that provides their mind with comfort. So any quest for rationality and truth is doomed from the start by human nature.  

What happens if I read this and change my mind based on what you've written?

Doesn't that mean that my mind no longer creates its own reality and that people don't simply believe what they want to believe?

Then it turns out that I must disagree with your position, because my mind longer simply creates its own reality, it reacts to a reality outside of itself, I believe things other than what I want to believe.

But my position is based on reading your position!

Which means... my mind no longer creates its own reality and people do not believe simply what they want to believe!

Help! I'm stuck in a closed loop! Wait, no one can help me, because help would come from outside, a reality outside of my creation... and the help might not be something I like or want!

 


As a psycholgist I can make sense of your complaint. It's a paradoxical complaint. It's meant to engender a response to your words that contradicts it... the hope is that someone will react to your post and change their mind, regardless of their current desire. 


Seen that way, your comment can and does make sense only if we reword it thusly: It with people would show more respect for my point of view and even consider changing their views to match mine.

 

If you want that, an anonymous forum is about as a good a way to meeting that need as going to a brothel to find a life parnter. 

 

 

Could not agree with you more. I had the same hope initially.

Religion and politics are essentially drugs of belief that people use as a tool for money, popularity or just a feeling moral superiority to others. The harsh realities of our existance on this planet can not be accepted by the vast majority of people. The elites in religion and politics create an irrational reality for the masses based upon appeal to emotion and social acceptance. So, their flocks just follow mainstream belief systems such as Christian fundamentalism, Wokeness or Communism. Any debate is just them repeating the belief system they were indoctrinated with and insulting those that disagree with they are 'evil'. 

It was a mistake for me to even debate a certain Canadian when Canadians essentially live under the cult of woke indoctrnation(just watch Canadian Broadcasting Company). Mistake to debate someone with so much anger from dysfunctional childhood they are incapable of rational examination of the facts.

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It was definitely a mistake

It was definitely a mistake to debate a Canadian who proved you a lying moron every single time I responded to you. You still haven't learned anything and you're still a retard.

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Brian37 wrote: People view

Brian37 wrote:

 People view this website every day, and not for me. It is  library with vital information and arguments for our positions. 

You don't like it because I challenge you on your "Hate all government, hate all taxes" garbage. 

 

It is low traffic as far as posts because Brian doesn't add new members because he doesn't have the time. But that does not mean new unique views are not happening every day. 

 

People will turn to religion an irrational political beliefs because their lives suck. These irrational beliefs and the communities that spew irrationalities serve as an opiate for their miserable lives. So unless we address the root causes of problems, these problems can never be solved.

For example, people are misreable because of the affordable housing shortage. People are rent and mortgage slaves or homeless. We can solve the problem with science and rationality. But people like you want to tax the shit out of entepenuers that want to invent new technologies like 3D printed homes. You want tax the shit out of men that work hard all year to build homes and give it to people that don't work. You claim that bringing in an endless stream of uneduated migrants that need housing but have no job skills is not a problem and only people that are racist can oppose this. It is obvious that we are allow too many children to be born into poor and dysfunctional homes and government funded schools are not producing enough home builders.

So for all the misery your irrational beliefs cause, what is the alternative to religion as an opiate for miserable lives?

You are the one that does not face the truth or want to be chanllenged. All your fucking taxes on working people and investors is not fixing the problem, only making things worse, but you will never change.

 

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Vastet wrote:It was

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It was definitely a mistake to debate a Canadian who proved you a lying moron every single time I responded to you. You still haven't learned anything and you're still a retard.

You've never once laid out an argument as to why I am a 'liar'. That is your big lie. You don't know the first thing about how to present a logical argument.

In your mind anyone that challenges the belief system you have been indoctrinated with your whole life is a 'liar'. That is your government funded indoctrination program kicking in.

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Everything EXC says is a

Everything EXC says is a lie. Lies I've personally demonstrated as lies, at least a dozen times apiece. He only thinks otherwise because his brain has been broken beyond repair as per brainwashing by capitalists and he's absolutely incapable of logic, reason, or learning.

The retard is so brainless he actually thinks Canadian taxes allowed Florida to score 1 single goal that allowed them to take home the Stanley Cup. Even a 5 year old has more knowledge than EXC the fool.

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Everything EXC says is a lie.

No when I said "Everything I say is a lie", you said I was telling the truth. So which is it?

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Lies I've personally demonstrated as lies, at least a dozen times apiece. He only thinks otherwise because his brain has been broken beyond repair as per brainwashing by capitalists and he's absolutely incapable of logic, reason, or learning. The retard is so brainless he actually thinks Canadian taxes allowed Florida to score 1 single goal that allowed them to take home the Stanley Cup. Even a 5 year old has more knowledge than EXC the fool.

 

The odds of a Canadian team failing to win the Stanley Cup for 31 straight years is roughly 1-in-2,500....But that's exactly what has happened. Bill Bilichick said Taxachusetts' income taxes made it impossible to sign good players. Face it, anyplace with income tax will repel sucessful people and attract welfare queens. You always run out of people to steal from.  You'd have to be an idiot to not understand this.

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EXC wrote:No when I said

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No when I said "Everything I say is a lie

Everything EXC says is a lie.

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you said I was telling the truth. So which is it?

Often peppered by delusions.

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The odds of a Canadian team failing to win the Stanley Cup for 31 straight years is roughly 1-in-2,500

Your math skills are pathetic my 8 year old neice can do better. It's embarrassing that you're human you're so dumb. There are 32 NHL hockey teams, only 7 of which are Canadian. The chances of a Canadian team winning in any given year are not even 4 to 1 against, at best. You can shove your imaginary probability back up your ass where it came from.

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...But that's exactly what has happened. Bill Bilichick said Taxachusetts' income taxes made it impossible to sign good players. Face it, anyplace with income tax will repel sucessful people and attract welfare queens. You always run out of people to steal from.  You'd have to be an idiot to not understand this.

Everything EXC says is a lie.

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