Did Yahweh do us a favor by denying us eternal life?

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Did Yahweh do us a favor by denying us eternal life?

 Did Yahweh do us a favor by denying us eternal life?

 

It seems that the older I get, the less enjoyable and desirable the thought of living eternally becomes, even though I am quite pleased with how my life has evolved and how I will end this life.

 

Be it with a body here on earth, or as a spirit in some heaven, I cannot imagine anyone living eternally and enjoying it.

 

It would be like living watching the same T V program running over and over and over, since there is nothing new under the sun. All would be seen as allegories and or analogous of other situations.

 

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 The idea of eternnal

 

The idea of eternal repitition is vile. 

 

If your only goal is to kiss ass for eternity, it is like you said, watching the same show over and over. I have shows and movies and food I like, but yea, if I only had one to do forever that woulld go beyond boring and become torture.

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 I don't think we have free

 I don't think we have free will to decide what is pleasurable and what is not pleasurable. A brain could be remade to enjoy the same thing continually and not experience boredom. If there are an infinite number of universes as many scientists not think, it would mean that eternal recurrence is inevitable. But if memories of past lives don't survive, are you really you? The mystery of conscientiousness would have to be understood before science could ever begin to answer your questions rationally.

 

 

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Brian37 wrote: The idea of

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The idea of eternal repitition is vile. 

 

If your only goal is to kiss ass for eternity, it is like you said, watching the same show over and over. I have shows and movies and food I like, but yea, if I only had one to do forever that woulld go beyond boring and become torture.

 

Let us pray that no one has those kinds of lips.

 

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EXC wrote: I don't think we

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 I don't think we have free will to decide what is pleasurable and what is not pleasurable. A brain could be remade to enjoy the same thing continually and not experience boredom. If there are an infinite number of universes as many scientists not think, it would mean that eternal recurrence is inevitable. But if memories of past lives don't survive, are you really you? The mystery of conscientiousness would have to be understood before science could ever begin to answer your questions rationally.

 

 

Writers seem convince of the eventual downfall of any utopia. The arts are often on the pin.

  

As to our free will, we have it within the bounds of nature and physics.

 

I even have a little test to prove that we have that limited free will.

 

It involves giving it away to my will in how you reply to me.

 

If you disagree, you might want to try it.

 

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Greatest I am wrote:I even

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I even have a little test to prove that we have that limited free will.

 

It involves giving it away to my will in how you reply to me.

 

If you disagree, you might want to try it.

 

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Why not a turning test? The same test for me and same test for computer. Or do you think computers can also have 'freewill'?

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EXC wrote:Greatest I am

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I even have a little test to prove that we have that limited free will.

 

It involves giving it away to my will in how you reply to me.

 

If you disagree, you might want to try it.

 

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Why not a turning test? The same test for me and same test for computer. Or do you think computers can also have 'freewill'?

 

I do not have a turning test, nor a turing test. Mine is simpler.

 

I do not think computers have a free will. They are nachines that read code and do as instructed to do. Unlike us, they cannot choose arbitrarily to say no, the way children do.

 

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Greatest I am wrote:I do not

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I do not have a turning test, nor a turing test. Mine is simpler.

 

I do not think computers have a free will. They are nachines that read code and do as instructed to do. Unlike us, they cannot choose arbitrarily to say no, the way children do.

 

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So can your test show that humans have free will and machines do not? What is your test?

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EXC wrote:Greatest I am

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I do not have a turning test, nor a turing test. Mine is simpler.

 

I do not think computers have a free will. They are nachines that read code and do as instructed to do. Unlike us, they cannot choose arbitrarily to say no, the way children do.

 

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So can your test show that humans have free will and machines do not? What is your test?

 

The test has nothing to do with machines. As I indicated they vannot refuse or say no without instructions to do so.

 

The test is simple. 

 

I ask you, here and now should you want to take the test, to give up your freedom to do as you like in responding to this post, and do it the way I want/will, and not as you normally would.

 

Start your responce with the letter I.

 

The nice proof is that should your do as requested, or not, it shows you that it is your will that you set aside for me, and if you refuse, it also shows you having a free will.

 

You can only give up what you have.

 

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