LMAO

That's pretty much where I shook my head too. As if there has ever been anything in the US which suggests it is being converted to islam. There are so few islamic followers they get included as 'other' in most studies. The biggest jump is in those who don't have an affiliation with any religion, and that significantly reduces the likelyhood of any religion becoming dominant. In fact, there has been, since 2007, a bigger increase in no religious affiliation than there has been in ALL non-christian faiths combined.

I call bullshit. Anyone in Allepo who didn't consider isis a threat was part of isis to begin with. There is absolutely no correlation to the discussion whatsoever.

Fuck you asshole. This is more bullshit double speak garbage. The right, not the left you fuckwad, are the ones peddling xenophobia and hate. 

First off dipshit, Bush had far more outposts attacked in his 8 years and who finally nabbed Bin Laden when he didn't OBAMA YOU DIPSHIT and Hillary was in the room when they did, want a picture?

Neither Obama or Hillary are calling for bans on an entire religion. Neither Obama or Hillary have called for mass deportation. 

Europe's right wing is the problem just like our far right is a problem here. Your dear leader has been condemened not only by Sam Harris but even his fellow republicans including Colin Powell and 50 former GOP law agents. 

No sorry, you don't get to claim inclusion and freedom and especially not under Trump. He is nothing but a selfish asshole scapegoating demagogue and has no capability whatsover of understanding global issues. He talks just like a despot.

Trump is pandering to the worst in our species. Trump is Jim Crow and McCarthism and WW2 "Make Germany Great Again". And just on economics the "Make America Great Again" is fucking bullshit knowing that our economy is much better now than it was when Bush left.

Trump is also the one who called captured veterans loosers and is running for a party that  has stoped several veterans bills. 

This isn't about political correctness. Trump isn't "telling it like it is". Trump is using the same propaganda tactics of political scapegoating that gave rise to Hitler. YES ASSHOLE in his case Godwin's law does apply.

Sam is dead right about Trump's insanity but again, you don't have to take it from him or me, 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/08/politics/republican-national-security-letter-donald-trump-election-2016/

You can't look at islam differently from other religions. It isn't a religion/government any more than any other mainstream religion. Both judaism and christianity also have a government aspect, they just no longer have many countries willing to tolerate them being in charge. The muslims might be in the same boat except that the christians and states who are biased in their favour have spent the last thousand years oppressing the entire region. Up until recently, more recently than WW2, none of the countries in the middle east really existed. They were creations of the west, governed by the west, until the west abandoned them to their own devices. At which point a completely new form of oppression was begun against those in the region. There's a damn good reason people in the region have become terrorists, and islam has nothing to do with it.

To this day there has yet to be a period where muslim dominated nations have had time for introspection, to let islam and social conditions evolve and improve. Such things can only happen in times of relative peace, never when a nation is facing an existential threat.

Women and black people didn't get rights when the British were still in power in the US. Nor during the civil or world wars. It was when the US had already taken its place as a super power and the only remaining potential existential threat was not shooting at them that such movements bore fruit. Even so women and blacks aren't treated equally in the US, and it has been more than half a century since rights were truly extended to them.

As long as muslim dominated nations have the US and Russia breathing down their necks, and Israel continues to be an aggressive power comitting atrocities and illegal acts, and neighbouring nations are potential enemies: there will never come a time when the middle east can turn an eye on itself and advance like the west has done.

I though Colin Powell was an idiot for getting us into Iraq? Didn't most of these people mentioned and Hillary support the invasion? Didn't the "best and brightest" security experts get us into Vietnam?

These are the same people that advised supporting "Moderates" in Syria's civil war and then were shocked to find out there were no moderate militants.

The same people telling us taking our shoes off at the airport makes us safer. 

The same people that are OK with letting hundreds of thousand of Muslim refugees in. They didn't stop jihadists from taking over their cities so we should let them in???

These "security experts" are all part of the globalist elitist club. The have each others' back but not the US citizens and taxpayers.

How can anyone disagree with Trump's response:

"The names on this letter are the ones the American people should look to for answers on why the world is a mess, and we thank them for coming forward so everyone in the country knows who deserves the blame for making the world such a dangerous place. They are nothing more than the failed Washington elite looking to hold onto their power, and it's time they are held accountable for their actions," Trump said in a statement.

"These insiders -- along with Hillary Clinton -- are the owners of the disastrous decisions to invade Iraq, allow Americans to die at Benghazi, and they are the ones who allowed the rise of ISIS. Yet despite these failures, they think they are entitled to use their favor trading to land taxpayer-funded government contracts and speaking fees."

That's ridiculous. Trump is not capable of preventing war. He's infinitely more likely to start it.

It would be interesting if Israeli's had to wear cameras that showed how they treat muslims day to day. Or Americans or Russians for that matter. It would make black lives matter look like a group of whiny bitches who don't have a clue what oppression really is.

And Americans kill just as many Americans in mall and school shootings. Mexican drug cartels kill and maim more people than isis as well, and are much more vicious about it. Anyone who thinks muslims have a monopoly on crime needs to take off their blinders. You had a crime problem long before refugees.

Which proves my point. The societies from the ground up are primitive and violent. The religion didn't make them that way, the conditions made the religion that way.

The exact same tenets are present in christianity and judaism.

And christians weren't even willing to do that much when they rampaged across Europe, so your argument says nothing bad about muslims by comparison.

You think wrong.

The sicko's that wrote it were no different than the sicko's who wrote any other religion. You clearly don't know what hadiths actually are (hint: they have nothing to do with the quran). And Trump is absolutely NOT going to do anything effective whatsoever. You want more violence, vote for Trump.

well, i for one am grateful every day that i live in this europe that everyone apparently thinks is sinking into anarchy, rather than the country i grew up in. elect trump, fuckers. let the goddamn ship sink. i washed my fucking hands of america long ago and i don't look back. fucking america deserves everything it gets. it's a goddamn deformed child with puritan psychosexual issues, who only got where it is today because it was an overgrown enough fucking lurch-like troglodyte that it could, by sheer girth, lumber its way into whatever it wanted for a while. now, however, the air is going out of that fucking tire. go fornicate yourselves with your apple fucking pie and mom.


i left it, merle. fuck you.