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Coffee, Tea or Idiocy......

 Oh how the right screams about the free market, but when they don't kiss the magic baby's ass they get all buthurt.

Starbucks didn't put the magic baby's name on their cups and didn't put the Constitutionally mandated "YOU WILL FUCKING BE ARRESTED IF YOU DONT SAY MARRY CRHISTMAS"

And resident retard 

https://www.facebook.com/joshua.feuerstein.5/?fref=ts Doesn't even know the history of that holiday and it's pagan roots. Way to go Starbucks!

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Brian37 wrote:Donald Trump,

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Donald Trump, and his fat bloated ego....... You know I meant Buddha.



and you're wrong about that too. anybody who spent time in east asia, as you claim you did, should know the "fat guy" is not buddha.


it's funny you want people to take your overall point seriously when every detail you use to justify your point is wrong, often by your own admission. that makes your whole argument a brittle, empty shell.

"I have never felt comfortable around people who talk about their feelings for Jesus, or any other deity for that matter, because they are usually none too bright. . . . Or maybe 'stupid' is a better way of saying it; but I have never seen much point in getting heavy with either stupid people or Jesus freaks, just as long as they don't bother me. In a world as weird and cruel as this one we have made for ourselves, I figure anybody who can find peace and personal happiness without ripping off somebody else deserves to be left alone. They will not inherit the earth, but then neither will I. . . . And I have learned to live, as it were, with the idea that I will never find peace and happiness, either. But as long as I know there's a pretty good chance I can get my hands on either one of them every once in a while, I do the best I can between high spots."
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"Its complecated" is NOT an

"Its complecated" is NOT an argument I am making. YES politics, religion and economic theory DO get complicated. Yea so does DNA that makes up grass, and made up the dinosuars, and makes up bacteria.  

The only fucking thing I am getting at is all the petty crap humans fight over bacteria doesn't fight over. All the petty crap humans fight over the universe doesn't give one fuck about. Now, that does not mean any of us here should shut up or demand nobody ever get offended. 

But we don't do enough viewing life the same way science views method, nothing starts out complex, everything goes from the simple to the complex. Just like when we are babies we are not born with knowledge of political, religious or economic views. We get sold those things when we get older. We didn't have those concepts 4 billion years go, and they will not matter after our species goes exticnt. 

Now if you want to get "complex" neurology and biology and human psychology get complex, but they explain much better than that outside science, why we have false perceptions. And the biggest false perception humans have is that we are more important by proxy of label, when science knows "all this" doesn't give one fuck about any of us. Yes that was a short explination, but that still is what science points to. Which should be telling humans we need to get our priorities in order, stop caring so much about getting offended to the point of war, and make our goal as a species our common welfare. 

 

 

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Beyond Saving wrote: Brian37

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It is asshole,when an apple and a banana  are both fruit. Yea dickead, I used the wrong word, so sue me. You are a fucking moron becuase if I had the power to delete this thread, you'd stupidly accuse me of trying to cover up my mistake. Too stupid to see that by leaving it up EVERYONE gets to learn from my mistake.

When the wrong word you use is central to your point, it is kinda important. 

 

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It still does not change that there was no religion 200,000 years ago.

You really shouldn't talk about history. Every single fucking time you are absolutely wrong. There is pretty strong evidence that neanderthals and homo heidelbergensis had burial practices that were likely religious based. The MOST you can say is that we don't know for sure if religion existed 200,000 years ago. Though it is quite possible that it existed 400,000 years ago. It is likely that religion was born the instant a being was capable of asking the question in their head "What am I?"

 

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And only an idiot thinks religions or god/s will be rememberd after our species goes extinct.

Considering we remember the religions of our ancestors, only an idiot would think that when our species goes extinct that some other intelligent species isn't eventually going to figure out the basics of our religious beliefs, short of the complete destruction of our planet.

 

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 But fuck you if you think somehow blunt language or cuss words equates to oppression itself.

You couldn't oppress an ant. 

 

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Now, if you want to claim that is not what you are accusing me of, go ahead.

It isn't a claim, it is a fact. Vastet has accused you of being a complete fucking idiot. He has never accused you of oppressing anyone or anything. I'm pretty sure he would agree with my assessment that you would be a complete failure at oppressing anything. 

 

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If you do that, then that means I am not doing anything wrong. 

Being a complete fucking idiot is wrong. Lying is wrong. And being wrong is wrong by definition.  

 

Holy shit asshole. When I said religion wasn't arround 200,000 years ago, you know damned well I meant the written tradition way after nomadic migration. ALL superstitions humans have had, are still a result of evolution. My cat probably thinks I am a god. And he has his own ritual of wiping his paws before he drinks his water.

What the fuck is wrong with saying liberals don't matter, libertairains don't matter, humans don't matter? WE FUCKING DONT. 

FOR THE LOVE OF THE JETS, PLEASE KEEP REPEATING listening to Sagan's Pale Blue dot speech until you get it. 

No, being wrong only means I am wrong. Dont hand me that shit acting like Ray Comfort "Have you ever lied before, so that makes you a liar". Don't try to paint me like a criminal f. I have no doubt if you were put on a polygraph you'd fail if you tried to claim you have never lied. There is a difference between lying, and being mistaken. 

Now remember what you just accused me of, knowing what you offered me in PM. If you truely though I was lying to the extent of a crime you woun't have done that. So what is your next move, deny that you offered me tickets to the Jets Redskins game?

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http://www.rationalresponders.com/privatemsg/inbox From: Beyond Saving To: Brian37 Subject: Football! Date: September 17, 2015 - 12:42pm

Jets vs skins on the 18th in jersey. I have a line on a couple of tickets, are you interested?

You don't think I am evil you just think I am full of shit. I don't think you are lying, I simply think you got it wrong. If I truly though anyone on this website was a literal threat on par with say the KKK or Isis, I would not be here. My response

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Date: September 19, 2015 - 4:16am

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Jets vs skins on the 18th in jersey. I have a line on a couple of tickets, are you interested?

I dont live in the DC area, otherwise I'd take you up on it. Plus it be nice to verbally bitch slap you, verbally only.

We suck so it would not surprise if the Jets win.

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Beyond Saving wrote:Brian37

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 I just mentioned this thread on another website, without naming names, and now I get it. I DID mix up my terminology. SO there, but once again, even when I DO admit my mistakes, you fuckwads miss the bigger picture. Which is that that family are a bunch of fucking sick fucks. THAT was my point. 

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Hi Brian. Fascism is a set of right-wing totalitarian ideologies (e.g. National Socialism) whereas North Korea is a Communist state which has adopted a totalitarian left-wing ideology, that of the Supreme Leader Kim Il Sung. Technically, your friend is correct.

It is still the attitude that beyond a certain point the rulers become intolerant of dissent. It is simply right wing extremism vs left wing extremism. Potato PoTATo. So yea you got me, but even now thats never going to satisfy you fucking idiots. Funny how they were able to correct me without using the childish bullshit tactics you guys do. Brian has to be a perfectionist and never disagree with anyone here.

OMFG I'm buying a lottery ticket today. Brian just admitted he was wrong?!?!? 

Um no, this is NOT the first time on this website I have admitted I got it wrong. Again, you are suffering from selection baias and sample rate error.

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Brian37 wrote:It is

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It is asshole,when an apple and a banana  are both fruit.

Brian is attempting to achieve world record status for his idiocy. Unfortunately, ironically, he's too stupid to do so.

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Brian37 wrote:Beyond Saving

Brian37 wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

Brian37 wrote:

 I just mentioned this thread on another website, without naming names, and now I get it. I DID mix up my terminology. SO there, but once again, even when I DO admit my mistakes, you fuckwads miss the bigger picture. Which is that that family are a bunch of fucking sick fucks. THAT was my point. 

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Hi Brian. Fascism is a set of right-wing totalitarian ideologies (e.g. National Socialism) whereas North Korea is a Communist state which has adopted a totalitarian left-wing ideology, that of the Supreme Leader Kim Il Sung. Technically, your friend is correct.

It is still the attitude that beyond a certain point the rulers become intolerant of dissent. It is simply right wing extremism vs left wing extremism. Potato PoTATo. So yea you got me, but even now thats never going to satisfy you fucking idiots. Funny how they were able to correct me without using the childish bullshit tactics you guys do. Brian has to be a perfectionist and never disagree with anyone here.

OMFG I'm buying a lottery ticket today. Brian just admitted he was wrong?!?!? 

Um no, this is NOT the first time on this website I have admitted I got it wrong. Again, you are suffering from selection baias and sample rate error.

When Brian demonstrably and proveably admits to much less than 0.000000001% of his errors, selection bias is not an issue.

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Brian37 wrote:Donald Trump,

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Donald Trump, and his fat bloated ego....... You know I meant Buddha.

I don't even know that much about Buddha let alone have a fetish for him. I've read a handful of sutras and a few history books that included information about Siddhartha. Most of what I know about Buddhism I learned from iwbiek- you know if you actually read what people write, you will find that many on here are knowledgeable about interesting things- you can learn something!

 

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Yes politics, religion and business models ARE all about resources. Now you stupidly equate resources to money and material. Resources can be emotional support like love, companionship. Socialising by surrounding yourself with like minded people is a resource. If it were just about material and money, we wouldn't need other humans. If you know what "Human resources" means in business. 

When we are born, we cry or smile to get attention from our parents. As we grow our language gets more complex. We use that language to make the physical act of conveying information. It can convey patterns we think work in the form of politics, religon or business. But those physical acts are still the same thing. An attempt to create social order. Now please don't stupidly keep repeating that they are different. YES THEY ARE DIFFERENT, so stop making arguments I am not making. It is like arguing Ford and Chevy and Toyota in a NASCAR race are not different cars. Even in a NASCAR race those races have teams that overlap. Just like politics cant avoid investment in the global market. Just like religon will always make attempts to create social order in public policiy. 

The track we are on is called life. Our teams overlap one car is politics, another is religion, and another business, but it is all the same track. Those things cannot avoid overlap. And all those things require income to keep up. But the reality in evoluton is those things are exclusively human invented. Prior to our species, the "income" in other mamals and primates was grouping, and the ability to gain access to food and to avoid danger. 

The point is long before humans concocted boarders, created money, or religion, we still had resources, we would not have evolved without them. No life would have without them. But food and shelter are not the only resources. Socializing is a resource. Once you understand that, you will understand why the priority overlap are food and shelter and the socializing in the form of labels humans concoct needs to be put on the back burner and replaced with the pragmatic socilzing of understanding as a priority that we are all social animals and not a separate species.

So again, you are not wrong in saying they are different. BUT IN CONTEXT. The are differnet types of attempts to create social order and do overlap. But all those different attempts at social order still ride on the same track humans call life. The problem is that humans outside those who do accept evolution, fail to see that those constructs did not exist in the past and will not exist when our species goes extinct. See Sagans Pale Blue Dot speech.

For someone who goes out of his way to routinely say "capitalism isn't a political system" even when nobody has even suggested that it is, you are doing a shit ton of conflating. Why based on your argument here, religion IS a resource. 

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Brian37 wrote:Holy shit

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Holy shit asshole. When I said religion wasn't arround 200,000 years ago, you know damned well I meant the written tradition way after nomadic migration. ALL superstitions humans have had, are still a result of evolution. My cat probably thinks I am a god. And he has his own ritual of wiping his paws before he drinks his water.

If you only meant written religion, then it didn't support your point at all. You were attempting to argue that religion wasn't necessary for human development. All you have argued is that writing wasn't necessary (which is also false). None of us here doubt that your cat is smarter than you. 

 

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What the fuck is wrong with saying liberals don't matter, libertairains don't matter, humans don't matter? WE FUCKING DONT. 

Many humans matter to me. 

 

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FOR THE LOVE OF THE JETS, PLEASE KEEP REPEATING listening to Sagan's Pale Blue dot speech until you get it. 

Why? I understood it perfectly well the first time and wasn't all that enthralled. Anyone who has bothered to look through a telescope understands that the Earth is an insignificant portion of the universe. I came to that conclusion when I was 8, it isn't complicated. It sounds like you need to listen to it a few more times, because Sagan's conclusion was in absolutely no fucking way that "humans don't matter". In fact, his conclusion was the exact opposite. 

 

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No, being wrong only means I am wrong. Dont hand me that shit acting like Ray Comfort "Have you ever lied before, so that makes you a liar". Don't try to paint me like a criminal f. I have no doubt if you were put on a polygraph you'd fail if you tried to claim you have never lied. There is a difference between lying, and being mistaken. 

Yes, and when your mistakes are pointed out, dozens of times and you keep repeating them, it goes beyond a mistake. For example, repeatedly accusing iwbiek of being a buddhist and Che supporter. 

 

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Now remember what you just accused me of, knowing what you offered me in PM. If you truely though I was lying to the extent of a crime you woun't have done that. So what is your next move, deny that you offered me tickets to the Jets Redskins game?

You obviously don't know me that well. I have no problem hanging around liars. I frequent bars and poker rooms. You missed a fun walloping, both at the game and at the bar afterward.  

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Beyond Saving wrote:For

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For example, repeatedly accusing iwbiek of being a buddhist and Che supporter.



yeah, he's brought up buddhism way more on this site than i ever have. honestly, my knowledge of buddhism has grown a bit rusty the last couple of years as i've focused more on hinduism for my phd. i haven't referred to buddhism in a long time, except in response to brian's histrionics. as for che, i've literally never mentioned him on this site (again, except in response to brian) since i joined in '08. that's all brian there.

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