"Connected" is crap be it religious mythology or si fi woo.

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"Connected" is crap be it religious mythology or si fi woo.

 Be it an atheist version, or part of some sects of Asian/Oriental or Indian religions.

There are people with gods or godless who have a really stupid idea that "all this" is connected. Some think of it as cognitive or even if not cognitive, somehow living. 

No sorry guys, neither new age si fi thinking or mixing it with old mythology makes the universe all "connected". It is true that all this started in one tiny dense space. But that was then. None of us have any connection now, to an electron or quark or atom on the furthest galaxies away from us. There has been since the big bang, tons of speed and separation. 

It is still a watered down way of dreaming of being infinite. This universe is not a living thing, living things in it are an outcome, not a requirement or starting point or cause. The universe is uncaring like a our atmosphere on this planet, you can have sunny days, but you can also have hurricanes and tornados. The universe is vastly hostile and violent, we only perceive it as calm because we don't think about it's long term history. 

So even without thinking of it as a god, it is still stupid to get stuck on even a si fi pretty. Yes there are pretty things in the universe. And it is even freaky to think of all the matter starting in the same spot. But no, I really wish people would stop letting their emotions allow them to think an object, a giant weather pattern, somehow is capable of giving one shit about humans. 

"All this" is a giant weather pattern and we are merely a finite blip riding in it. It is ok to have a deep appreciation for what we observe. But please do not turn it into a mythology, religion or even a Star Trek episode. Science and nature are awesome without old woo or new woo.

I think it is awesome to think about the fact that I do not contain one single atom from when I was a sperm and egg or even a baby. I think it is awesome to think about neutrinos and black holes and red giants. I do not feel in any case the need to turn it into a god or a si fi movie.

 

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^ Brian37 posts a dozen odd

^ Brian37 posts a dozen odd links and excepts that prove he still doesn't understand the discussion and does nothing for his argument.

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Beyond Saving wrote: You

Beyond Saving wrote:

 You would flunk the Turing test.

Lol!

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 http://physics.aps.org/stor

http://physics.aps.org/story/v9/st27

article wrote:
So what does any of this mean? At the very least, the numbers represent the most computing the Universe could have supported, or the minimum size of a computation for simulating the Universe, Lloyd notes. More interestingly, he says, the fact that the ops calculation from information theory and the bits calculation from quantum gravity gave equivalent results “suggests that we can go on being hopeful that there’s a connection out there” between quantum gravity and computation. The Universe’s program could be thought of as the primordial quantum fluctuations that seeded the formation of galaxies, he says. “It’s not running Windows or Linux, and we hope that it never shall.”

So again, "all this" is not a "program" like some want to think. 

"IT IS NOT RUNNING WINDOWS OR LINUX, AND WE HOPE THAT IT NEVER SHALL"

Just so some assholes here think I left this out the article is from 2002. Yes some time has passed. But I was deliberately lying.

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http://physics.aps.org/story/v9/st27

article wrote:
So what does any of this mean? At the very least, the numbers represent the most computing the Universe could have supported, or the minimum size of a computation for simulating the Universe, Lloyd notes. More interestingly, he says, the fact that the ops calculation from information theory and the bits calculation from quantum gravity gave equivalent results “suggests that we can go on being hopeful that there’s a connection out there” between quantum gravity and computation. The Universe’s program could be thought of as the primordial quantum fluctuations that seeded the formation of galaxies, he says. “It’s not running Windows or Linux, and we hope that it never shall.”

So again, "all this" is not a "program" like some want to think. 

"IT IS NOT RUNNING WINDOWS OR LINUX, AND WE HOPE THAT IT NEVER SHALL"

Just so some assholes here think I left this out the article is from 2002. Yes some time has passed. But I was deliberately lying.

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As long as we are just making random posts, they might as well be useful. 

 

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 Now once again this

 Now once again this "dumbass" is going to quote a SIENTIST, who agrees with me that people are jumping the gun Say hello to Laurance Krauss once again. And in this video he says the same thing I am saying, "Whatever you want to call this" a perpose is not required, and all the evidence is pointing away from a creative entity doing all this. So again, he is saying what I am saying  when science talks about something it is mathmatically and when they talk about it to "DIPSHITS" like me, words like "Hologram" and "simulate" are metaphors of what something would look like if we could see it at that level, not literal "code" like windows. So again, if the universe has no God as a cognative perpose, why would a "cosmic Bill Gates" fit in any better if any of this had a "perpose".

TIME STAMP 5:19 Basically saing none of this has a purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiYA9SOJzXk

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Brian37 wrote: Now once

Brian37 wrote:

 Now once again this "dumbass" is going to quote a SIENTIST, who agrees with me that people are jumping the gun Say hello to Laurance Krauss once again. And in this video he says the same thing I am saying, "Whatever you want to call this" a perpose is not required, and all the evidence is pointing away from a creative entity doing all this. So again, he is saying what I am saying  when science talks about something it is mathmatically and when they talk about it to "DIPSHITS" like me, words like "Hologram" and "simulate" are metaphors of what something would look like if we could see it at that level, not literal "code" like windows. So again, if the universe has no God as a cognative perpose, why would a "cosmic Bill Gates" fit in any better if any of this had a "perpose".

TIME STAMP 5:19 Basically saing none of this has a purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiYA9SOJzXk

Oh, still random unrelated posts?

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goddammit, brian, you

goddammit, brian, you fucking lying piece of shit. why don't you address a single point beyond made? who are you arguing with????

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It's like I said, Brian

It's like I said, Brian creates labelled portraits of other people based on a first impression and then talks to those portraits as if they were really there.

He should probably be an in-patient at the psych ward.

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butterbattle wrote:Beyond

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Beyond Saving wrote:

 You would flunk the Turing test.

Lol!

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Brian,For inciting a riot of

Brian,

For inciting a riot of your peers I sentence you to banishment from communicating with others.

All your future posts and threads will be ignored by all other users, except theists and other morons.

From this point on your title will be "The one who we do not speak to"

 

 


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iwbiek wrote:goddammit,

iwbiek wrote:
goddammit, brian, you fucking lying piece of shit. why don't you address a single point beyond made? who are you arguing with????

Clearly it is far more important to protect the world from the vast contigents of simulationists before they take over the world. 

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