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@riding_red 9 October 2014, 3:27 pm AEDT

Some people are passionate about coffee. Others about books, movies or games. There are, to paraphrase a certain timeless tale, as many passions as there are people. Dieter Michael Krone's passion is paper aeroplanes.

The Düsseldorf-based mechanical engineer is one of the world's leading authorities on the art of folding paper to make it glide. He has written a book on the subject. He has given a university lecture. He has an extensive website which lists the best materials for building paper aeroplanes; a history of paper aeroplanes; an essay on the physics of paper aeroplane flight; and, of course, a number of instruction sets for paper aeroplanes of his own design.

And, it turns out, he's also something of a mad genius, as detailed on his YouTube channel. There, you can find a paper aeroplane made out of a burger box, an exploration about whether a paper aeroplane can carry an egg, paper aeroplanes that can embed themselves into a dartboard, and this magnificent creation.

Dubbed the A6 v1.0, it's a 3D-printed thing of beauty. Like a printer, it holds a stock of paper which, one by one, it folds into a paper plane, then shoots into the air.

"A little tinkering from me that shows what you can do with 3D printers today. Most parts of this paper airplane machine gun had printed by fabberhouse.de (the rest of them are to buy via Internet or hardware store)," Krone wrote in the video description. "By the way, I use a cordless screwdriver from China for driving."

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/3d-printed-gun-folds-shoots-paper-planes/

My biggest question is whether Brian will actually read this, or instead launch into his patented tirade against guns without reading it, or finally some combination therein. Taking bets now, poll closes the instant he responds.


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 Why do they call them 3-D

 Why do they call them 3-D printers? Why would you want to be limited to printing one letter 3 times?

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Some combination therein

Some combination therein wins.

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 All the attemps to ban

 All the attemps to ban guns will fail with this technology and I, for one, am very happy about that. 


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 didn't some one post this

 didn't some one post this already? i remember seeing it three or four months ago.


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 didn't some one post this already? i remember seeing it three or four months ago.

Well, we need to be reminded every so often that the men in our species love their testosterone. It would really suck if humans worked to reduce violence, as long as the gun huggers get to play Dirty Harry, that is really what matters. We could really give them some mental porn by inventing machines that can print plastic nukes too.

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digitalbeachbum wrote:

 didn't some one post this already? i remember seeing it three or four months ago.

Well, we need to be reminded every so often that the men in our species love their testosterone. It would really suck if humans worked to reduce violence, as long as the gun huggers get to play Dirty Harry, that is really what matters. We could really give them some mental porn by inventing machines that can print plastic nukes too.



you do know that an enormous amount of gun owners are women, right? you're being incredibly sexist. then again, women weren't the ones beating the shit out of you for liking abba or whatever (couldn't have possibly been because you were a shrill, self-righteous little fuck then as you are now), and of course that's the real root of your anger at the stereotypical male persona. the guns are just a handy excuse.

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Vastet wrote:Some

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Some combination therein wins.

Lmfao. I think I would've voted for a tirade against guns and gun owners, with a slam against evil multinational corporations that make them, and maybe a comment on evolution concerning why we can't stop using guns. But, it's too late now; I would've been wrong. 

Whoa! Do I get any points for his second post?

 

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      Yet more mindless

 

 

    Yet more mindless stereotyping from a whiney, leftist SJW who constantly rails against mindless stereotyping. 

 

  ( Brian, my girl friend is a totally preppy, feminine beauty whose first rifle was a scoped AR 15. She likes military style weapons and so do I.  I save my testosterone for other uses. )

  


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Vastet wrote:
Some combination therein wins.

Lmfao. I think I would've voted for a tirade against guns and gun owners, with a slam against evil multinational corporations that make them, and maybe a comment on evolution concerning why we can't stop using guns. But, it's too late now; I would've been wrong. 

Whoa! Do I get any points for his second post?

 

I was just wondering the same thing. > >

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digitalbeachbum wrote:

 didn't some one post this already? i remember seeing it three or four months ago.

Well, we need to be reminded every so often that the men in our species love their testosterone. It would really suck if humans worked to reduce violence, as long as the gun huggers get to play Dirty Harry, that is really what matters. We could really give them some mental porn by inventing machines that can print plastic nukes too.

Again you are a fucking sexist pig. As iwbiek pointed out, many gun enthusiasts are women, and women are by far the fastest growing segment of both the gun market, target shooting market and are the only demographic among hunters that is growing rather than shrinking. It has gotten to the point that the major gun manufacturers are looking at creating product lines specifically designed to appeal to women. 

www.fieldandstream.com/national-shooting-sports-foundation-study

No doubt one of the largest drivers of this is concealed carry. Women take the classes and are no longer afraid of guns. They buy one for protection, then they discover that they actually enjoy using it and that has led them to other shooting sports like target competition or hunting.  

Unfortunately, such past times were seen as a "man's hobby" and something that only men should do by sexist fuckwads like you, so many women never even tried them to know if they would like them or not. So a woman who hunted was rarer than a winning lottery ticket. 

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     Check out all the

 

    Check out all the testosterone:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8VmJRuBFY


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    Check out all the testosterone:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8VmJRuBFY

 

Give that little girl some extra training, she would be ready for Marine Corps Recon. 


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 SPEAKING OF

 SPEAKING OF TESTOSTERONE 

 

HERE is why you don't mess with a lady's purse...ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrhSf8CEgC8 


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Burnedout wrote: SPEAKING

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 SPEAKING OF TESTOSTERONE 

 

HERE is why you don't mess with a lady's purse...ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTH!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrhSf8CEgC8 

   She's a good shot but that deep southern accent sounds so foreign to me and I'm a native born Texan. 


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ProzacDeathWish wrote:

 

    Check out all the testosterone:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8VmJRuBFY

 

Give that little girl some extra training, she would be ready for Marine Corps Recon. 

 

  Funny you should mention Force Recon because there's one ( Beyond saving )  posting in this thread right now. He rarely mentions it, though.


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Burnedout wrote:

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    Check out all the testosterone:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8VmJRuBFY

 

Give that little girl some extra training, she would be ready for Marine Corps Recon. 

Katelyn Francis has been running around hunting circles promoting hunting for young ladies as well so she doesn't appear to have a problem killing things. Obviously, she is too stupid to understand EVOLUTION!

She doesn't understand that girls are supposed to sit around playing with dolls and only menfolk with testosterone are supposed to be running around shooting things and killing bambi. As far as force recon though, it is the physical strength aspects that would be far more difficult for a female recruit. 

And don't worry about that, good liberals like Brian have already made sure that female training in boot camp is physically easier than the training for males in order to be "fair". That makes sure that they don't come out of it with the chops to even get into recon training, let alone pass. That way, the only way a woman will make it into recon is with the help of the government to change the rules special for her, we can't have someone thinking they have achieved something for themselves, why they might be proud. 

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Beyond Saving wrote:As far

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As far as force recon though, it is the physical strength aspects that would be far more difficult for a female recruit.

 

    I'm sure you are corrct.  There's no shame for her for not being able to meet the strength demands of tier one military fighters. Those limitations are inherent for her gender.  But she could follow the example of the Soviet era female snipers who let a bolt action Mosin Nagant do their killing.  Also, the highet scoring sniper ever was a small statured Finnish man ( His name was Simo something or other ) who killed around 500 Soviet military personel during WW 2. 

 

  As far as extremely high physical/ mental standards go, I remember reading a book by a Viet Nam era SEAL ( Lt Com Michael J. Walsh, ret ) that in one of the classes before his, there were exactly zero candidates who completed the training to become a SEAL.  Not a single one.  The Navy required a level of performance that was so demanding, that at least on one occasion not a single SEAL was produced.  How's that for not cutting anyone any slack ? LOL.

 


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ProzacDeathWish wrote:But

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But she could follow the example of the Soviet era female snipers who let a bolt action Mosin Nagant do their killing.






lyudmila pavlichenko. 309 confirmed kills, 36 of them enemy snipers. walked into the recruitment office with beautifully coiffed hair, expert make-up, and painted nails. said she wanted to be a sniper. they laughed her to scorn. she did as much to rid eastern europe of the nazis as any single human could. but i'm sure brian will object to her avatar, er, uniform.

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  Yes, from what I've read many Soviet partisans were women who willingly engaged in armed conflict ( regardless of whether they were tasked as snipers ) with the German armed forces.  It took big balls to do that as the German forces ( especially the SS ) had absolutely no qualms about torturing and killing captured partisans regardless of their gender.   I just noticed Pavlichenko is actually holding a semiautomatic  SVT 40 which fired the same round as the Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle.  

 

                                                                      

 

  This small statured ( 5'3" ) Finn was Simo Hayha, the highest scoring sniper who has ever lived.  He was called White Death by the Soviets, and rightly so as he killed 504 Russian soldiers with his Finnish made Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle.  All kills were made wihin a 100 day span and using a rifle that was only equipped with iron sights, no scope.  He had his lower left jaw shattered by a Soviet sniper and yet survived the Winter War ( Finland against Russia 1939-1940 ) and died in 2002 at aged 96.  


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ProzacDeathWish wrote:Beyond

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As far as force recon though, it is the physical strength aspects that would be far more difficult for a female recruit.

 

    I'm sure you are corrct.  There's no shame for her for not being able to meet the strength demands of tier one military fighters. Those limitations are inherent for her gender.  But she could follow the example of the Soviet era female snipers who let a bolt action Mosin Nagant do their killing.  Also, the highet scoring sniper ever was a small statured Finnish man ( His name was Simo something or other ) who killed around 500 Soviet military personel during WW 2. 

 

  As far as extremely high physical/ mental standards go, I remember reading a book by a Viet Nam era SEAL ( Lt Com Michael J. Walsh, ret ) that in one of the classes before his, there were exactly zero candidates who completed the training to become a SEAL.  Not a single one.  The Navy required a level of performance that was so demanding, that at least on one occasion not a single SEAL was produced.  How's that for not cutting anyone any slack ? LOL.

 

And I think it is a perfectly fair criticism of the Corps that they make the requirements to get into sniper school so physically strenuous. The work of a sniper is far more mental than physical. It is unlikely that a sniper is going to need to sling a comrade over their shoulders and exfil. It is the infiltration and exfiltration training that requires the most extreme physical work, but in most warfare, the most extreme methods are rarely used outside of groups like the SEALS that operate in countries where we publicly don't operate. The reality is that our methods were designed to take on nations with 1st world technology, and the 3rd world shitholes we fight in don't have navies or airforce significant enough to justify a 10 mile underwater swim to infiltrate or HALO jumps. Within 2-3 days we have FARPS set up and complete air/naval superiority to drop troops off wherever the fuck we want with little risk.

There is certainly plenty of need for snipers to do defensive/counter/support work which consists of being dropped off and a short hump with under 100 pounds of equipment. Certainly within the realm of possibility for all female Marines. As far as the actual shooting goes, I've heard that women actually perform better than men on average (although admitedly I have not seen actual stats to prove that). Who knows how much talent is passed on, both male and female, because their requirements were made during a very different era of warfare. 

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Beyond Saving wrote:And I

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And I think it is a perfectly fair criticism of the Corps that they make the requirements to get into sniper school so physically strenuous. The work of a sniper is far more mental than physical. It is unlikely that a sniper is going to need to sling a comrade over their shoulders and exfil. It is the infiltration and exfiltration training that requires the most extreme physical work, but in most warfare, the most extreme methods are rarely used outside of groups like the SEALS that operate in countries where we publicly don't operate. The reality is that our methods were designed to take on nations with 1st world technology, and the 3rd world shitholes we fight in don't have navies or airforce significant enough to justify a 10 mile underwater swim to infiltrate or HALO jumps. Within 2-3 days we have FARPS set up and complete air/naval superiority to drop troops off wherever the fuck we want with little risk .

 

   I was about to say " I agree" but that sounds as if I'm acting like I'm actually in the know about these things. 

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There is certainly plenty of need for snipers to do defensive/counter/support work which consists of being dropped off and a short hump with under 100 pounds of equipment. Certainly within the realm of possibility for all female Marines.

 

  Russia seems to think so.

 

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As far as the actual shooting goes, I've heard that women actually perform better than men on average (although admitedly I have not seen actual stats to prove that). 

   Despite the influence of my massive male ego, honesty nevertheless compells me to admit that  when it comes to slow fire, target style shooting my girl friend's level of handgun marksmanship is much better than mine and always has been.   Her weapon of choice is a Sig P 220 chambered in 45 ACP.  She just renewed her CHL, too.

 

 

 


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  This small statured ( 5'3" ) Finn was Simo Hayha, the highest scoring sniper who has ever lived.  He was called White Death by the Soviets, and rightly so as he killed 504 Russian soldiers with his Finnish made Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle.  All kills were made wihin a 100 day span and using a rifle that was only equipped with iron sights, no scope.  He had his lower left jaw shattered by a Soviet sniper and yet survived the Winter War ( Finland against Russia 1939-1940 ) and died in 2002 at aged 96.  

Not to diminish his abilities but the Russians did not wear white snow gear during this Winter War making them easy targets. What amazed me was his ability to stay out in the exposed environment with extreme temperatures, while being shelled.

When he died there was a write up about how the Russians would send out soldiers to a certain death because they knew he was operating in an area. While he picked off the Russians, they showered the area with thousands of rounds of artillery. However there was only a few times they came close to him because he knew the area so well that he would either leave the area before they shelled or he was never there in the first place.


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digitalbeachbum wrote:Not to

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Not to diminish his abilities but the Russians did not wear white snow gear during this Winter War making them easy targets.

 

       Perhaps, but simply seeing your target does not ensure you have the skill to actually make a successful shot.    In other words, you could put me in the same tactical situation as Chris Kyle, place the exact kind of rifle in my hand, even tell me where my target was ( SEALS don't use spotters, typically ) but unless my target was sufficiently close I could never produce the same results as Kyle.  I simply lack the talent and my lack of kills would reflect that.  Seeing is not killing.

  Simo did not even use a scoped rifle, just iron sights.

 

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What amazed me was his ability to stay out in the exposed environment with extreme temperatures, while being shelled.

 

    Yeah, I think the Wiki article stated -40 degrees Fareheit.

 

 

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When he died there was a write up about how the Russians would send out soldiers to a certain death because they knew he was operating in an area.

      

        I haven't read that yet but I don't doubt it.  Commissars were stationed on the battlefield among the Russian soldiers to ensure "loyalty" to the Motherland.

 

  

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While he picked off the Russians, they showered the area with thousands of rounds of artillery. However there was only a few times they came close to him because he knew the area so well that he would either leave the area before they shelled or he was never there in the first place.

    Providing him with fodder could accelerate Simo's rate of kills.   Nevertheless it must have been Simo's successful performance before that time that brought him to the Russian's attention.  That would indicate that he was already considered a threat far too dangerous for the Russians to be casual about.  Simo wasn't making that many kills because of blind luck and the Russians knew it.

 

  Ironically, think of all the white winter camo uniforms  that could have been produced for the Russians soldiers compared to the cost of them producing thousands of artillery shells just to kill one, single Finnish sniper.   And yet they still failed to kill Simo who presumably kept on killing the easily seen Russians.    

 

     Soviet military strategy was at times utterly bizarre.


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  Simo did not even use a scoped rifle, just iron sights.

Yeah, back in the days when sniping required real skill. Not that it is easy now, but consistently making those shots in those conditions, it amazes me. 

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  Simo did not even use a scoped rifle, just iron sights.

Yeah, back in the days when sniping required real skill. Not that it is easy now, but consistently making those shots in those conditions, it amazes me. 

Keep in mind that he hunted long before the war so his ability to shoot was a skill that must have been developed using a similar rifle. however he used the iron sights for an advantage which most people would never think of in his position


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When he died there was a write up about how the Russians would send out soldiers to a certain death because they knew he was operating in an area.

I haven't read that yet but I don't doubt it.  Commissars were stationed on the battlefield among the Russian soldiers to ensure "loyalty" to the Motherland.

I had read that the Russians released 40,000+ shells every day to Finland's 1,000. The area was so remote that the Russians could not travel far off the roads, so the Finnish army made use of the Russian weaknesses. I've been looking for the original article but I haven't found it yet. I'll keep looking.

 

 


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I had read that the Russians released 40,000+ shells every day to Finland's 1,000. The area was so remote that the Russians could not travel far off the roads, so the Finnish army made use of the Russian weaknesses. I've been looking for the original article but I haven't found it yet. I'll keep looking.

 

 

  Speaking of indirect fire weapons, check out this 600mm German seige mortar, with the word "THOR" appropriately stenciled on the opposite side.  The bore is almost 2 feet in diameter.


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  Speaking of indirect fire weapons, check out this 600mm German seige mortar, with the word "THOR" appropriately stenciled on the opposite side.  The bore is almost 2 feet in diameter.

Wow. Mallet's Mortar. 914mm. Firing rate: 4 per hour Shell weight: 2500 lbs (avg).

Or this

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  Speaking of indirect fire weapons, check out this 600mm German seige mortar, with the word "THOR" appropriately stenciled on the opposite side.  The bore is almost 2 feet in diameter.

Wow. Mallet's Mortar. 914mm. Firing rate: 4 per hour Shell weight: 2500 lbs (avg).

Or this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/transcoded/2/24/LittleDavid.ogv/LittleDavid.ogv.360p.webm

 

  Amazing.  I watched the vid of Little David and Googled Mallet's Mortar to get more info.   It's amazing how weapon designers used to "solve problems" before the advent of  more modern weapons.  You may already know the reason the 88mm Tiger tank main gun and the even larger 128mm gun on the Jagd Tiger were so devastaing at long ranges was the gun barrels were originally designed to shoot down heavy bombers flying at their maximum altitudes.  Armies lacked sufficient guided missle technology like we have today so Armies around the world just shot down the planes ( with varying levels of accuracy ) with really, really, really powerful guns.   

 I believe the 88mm fired a 21 pound projectile that was capable of reaching aircraft up to 50,000 feet above ground.  As a 88mm tank cannon a tugnsten tipped projectile travelling at those extreme velocities ( for that era ) was more than enough to rip through any allied tank that was brave enough to approach.   The competition eventually closed the gap with 90mm cannons ( American ) and I forget what the Russians came up with that put their heavy tanks on par with the Tigers.  

I know you were probably already familiar with these factoids but it's just a topic that fascinates me so I tend to prattle on.


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ProzacDeathWish wrote:

ProzacDeathWish wrote:
Amazing.  I watched the vid of Little David and Googled Mallet's Mortar to get more info.   It's amazing how weapon designers used to "solve problems" before the advent of  more modern weapons.  You may already know the reason the 88mm Tiger tank main gun and the even larger 128mm gun on the Jagd Tiger were so devastaing at long ranges was the gun barrels were originally designed to shoot down heavy bombers flying at their maximum altitudes.  Armies lacked sufficient guided missle technology like we have today so Armies around the world just shot down the planes ( with varying levels of accuracy ) with really, really, really powerful guns.   

 I believe the 88mm fired a 21 pound projectile that was capable of reaching aircraft up to 50,000 feet above ground.  As a 88mm tank cannon a tugnsten tipped projectile travelling at those extreme velocities ( for that era ) was more than enough to rip through any allied tank that was brave enough to approach.   The competition eventually closed the gap with 90mm cannons ( American ) and I forget what the Russians came up with that put their heavy tanks on par with the Tigers.  

I know you were probably already familiar with these factoids but it's just a topic that fascinates me so I tend to prattle on.

I love watching engineering stuff, like How It's Made or most of the shows on Military channels. I used to play all kinds of strategic war games when I was high school and learned battle tactics.