Tucon Az paper gives voice to atheist on issue of Pope.

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Tucon Az paper gives voice to atheist on issue of Pope.

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On the issue of this

On the issue of this particular new pope, I find this article to be slightly more interesting :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2011/jan/04/argenitina-videla-bergoglio-repentance?CMP=twt_gu 


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i don't care if a tucson

i don't care if a tucson newspaper "allowed" an atheist to weigh in on the new pope if that atheist had all of jack shit to say about it.

i think he wrote that article just so he could have a place to inflict his lame "i haz pope" graphic on the public.

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 I don't see why any

 I don't see why any atheist cares who the pope is, nor why anyone would care what an atheist thinks about the new pope. 

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Well it matters a little. A

Well it matters a little. A good pope would be preferable for all than a bad one. Regardless of whether the position should have such power, it does.

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Beyond Saving wrote: I

Beyond Saving wrote:

 I don't see why any atheist cares who the pope is, nor why anyone would care what an atheist thinks about the new pope. 

Wow, for someone who claims to be an advocate of freedom so much, you certainly are taking the absolute wrong approach.

Our founders warned of pulpit politics and not just Jefferson.

You should care, because even in our own history religious people enslaved blacks, committed genocide on Native Americans, denied women voting rights, and lynched blacks during their civil rights movement. And still to this day we have religious politicians denying the rights of gays, and constant attempts to invade the uterus's of women.

I care, because that Vatican was part of the oppression during the Dark ages. It was complacent during the holocaust. And has always been behind on science issues. It gives horrible advice to poor people on issues of reproduction. And still discriminates against gays and women. Not to mention it spreads superstition.

As long as religion exists, just like a political party , to take your eyes off of it is a sure fire way for it go gain absolute power over you.

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Brian37 wrote:Beyond Saving

Brian37 wrote:

Beyond Saving wrote:

 I don't see why any atheist cares who the pope is, nor why anyone would care what an atheist thinks about the new pope. 

Wow, for someone who claims to be an advocate of freedom so much, you certainly are taking the absolute wrong approach.

Because I think the church can appoint any crazy kook they want as pope? 

 

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Our founders warned of pulpit politics and not just Jefferson.

Is the pope running for President? 

 

Brian37 wrote:

You should care, because even in our own history religious people enslaved blacks, committed genocide on Native Americans, denied women voting rights, and lynched blacks during their civil rights movement. And still to this day we have religious politicians denying the rights of gays, and constant attempts to invade the uterus's of women.

And your point is..... religious politicians are going to support all sorts of stupid laws that restrict freedom regardless of who is the pope. Just like you support all sorts of stupid laws that restrict freedom regardless of who heads the UN. 

 

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I care, because that Vatican was part of the oppression during the Dark ages. It was complacent during the holocaust. And has always been behind on science issues. It gives horrible advice to poor people on issues of reproduction. And still discriminates against gays and women. Not to mention it spreads superstition.

As long as religion exists, just like a political party , to take your eyes off of it is a sure fire way for it go gain absolute power over you.

I agree, religion sucks. I fail to see why as an atheist I should have any role in criticizing or approving of which kook in a group of kooks is appointed as the leader. It doesn't matter who the pope is, the problem isn't any particular pope it is the religion itself, which kook is running the church is about as important to me as who leads the KKK- the leader isn't the problem. 

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Vastet wrote:Well it matters

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Well it matters a little. A good pope would be preferable for all than a bad one. Regardless of whether the position should have such power, it does.

I'm pretty sure "good pope" is an oxymoron. 

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Beyond Saving wrote:Vastet

Beyond Saving wrote:

Vastet wrote:
Well it matters a little. A good pope would be preferable for all than a bad one. Regardless of whether the position should have such power, it does.

I'm pretty sure "good pope" is an oxymoron. 

lol. Point.

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