Fmr.Navy Chaplin G.Klingenschmitt favors Gay Exorcisms,says gay men are women

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Fmr.Navy Chaplin G.Klingenschmitt favors Gay Exorcisms,says gay men are women

      When I saw the word Navy Chaplin and Exorcism  I just had to listen to what this clown is doing in the navy ?  Man-up guys. He also cured a lesbian cadet by making jesus her man, what a guy !


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I posted the video,but it never showed up ???

       Hang on, I don't know WTF happened,but the video got lost ? I'll try again. This is to see and hear for yourself. When I heard the words Fmr.Navy Chaplin and Exorcism it made me look even deeper,cause I'm thinking WTF is this clown doing in the the Navy anyway so I watched the video. He also claims to have cured a lesbian cadet by making jesus her man , what a guy !!!

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This is a Fucked -up thread - post ?

  I have tried twice to embed this video and both times it showed up (Embeded by me) while I was typing out the post on the other page,at the time, I thought that this is funny,it has never appered here before ? but it never showed up when I clicked submit ? Well I'll try again

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I'll type in the link insted

     Well I'll try this     www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPCMKUpFPME   or try "the David Pakman Show" on You Tube's MidweekPolitics.     Yo ! the link worked .

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I don't know what to say

I don't know what to say about this jackass. If someone is willing to serve in the military so I can be safe here at home, who should give a fuck what their sexuality is.

HEY DIPSHIT, DADT HAS BEEN OVERTURNED!

It is 2011, grow the fuck up asshole!

 

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A Matter Of Honor: The Truth Comes Out About Former Chaplain Klingenschmitt

Former Navy chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt is quickly becoming the Religious Right’s latest phony martyr.

Klingenschmitt claims he was drummed out of the Navy because he wanted to pray in the name of Jesus. In fact, he got tossed out for being insubordinate. Far from being a hero and a role model, Klingenschmitt is exactly what the military does not need: an officer who would not do what was expected of him.

Naval regulations forbid service members from wearing their uniforms to political or partisan events. This directive is clear and has been in place for a long time. Nevertheless, Klingenschmitt insisted on wearing his uniform to a Religious Right-hosted protest and press conference opposing the military’s inclusive policies on religion. He showed up on the street outside the White House in the company of former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, Religious Right activist Rob Schenck and Texas preacher-politician Rick Scarborough. (Americans United staffers were there, so we know. See picture.)

Klingenschmitt could have(l. to r.) Roy Moore, Rev. Rob Schenk and Rev. Rick Scarborough protest with Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt in front of the White House, March 30, 2006. photo by Lauren Smith
attended the event
in civilian clothes, but
he chose not to.

Despite this insubordination,
he is being feted by the
Religious Right. This year,
he plans to tour the nation with Pastor Rick Scarborough and Religious Right activist
Alan Keyes for a series
of right-wing political rallies
intended to turn out the vote for “Christian” political candidates.

On March 7, the Kentucky House of Representatives invited Klingenschmitt to open its session with a prayer and went so far as to pass a resolution lauding him for his “service to God, country and the Commonwealth of Kentucky.”

All of this was too much for Klingenschmitt’s former boss. Capt. Norm Holcomb, command chaplain at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia, sent an e-mail to the Kentucky House, giving every representative the facts about the Klingenschmitt controversy.

Holcomb’s message is very powerful, and reading it, one can sense the anger he feels that an officer who refused to follow orders is being treated like some kind of hero.

Holcomb also clarifies an important point: Klingenschmitt, despite what his defenders say, was not punished for praying in the name of Jesus. He was court-martialed for refusing to follow orders. It’s a simple as that.

“I was the dishonored ex-chaplain’s supervisor for the past 2 years,” Holcomb wrote in his message. “I found him to be totally untruthful, unethical and insubordinate. He was and is contemptuous of all authority. He was not court martialed for praying in Jesus’ name. I sent him out in uniform every week to pray at various ceremonies and functions. He always prayed in uniform and in Jesus’ name. He was never told that he could not pray in Jesus’ name. In fact, the issue of prayer had nothing at all to do with his dismissal from the Navy. He disobeyed the lawful order of a senior officer. I am sure that you understand that Navy Regulations forbid any of us, regardless of rank or position, to appear in uniform in support of any political or partisan event.”

Holcomb goes on to say, “He appeared in direct support of a political event, demonstrating contempt for the order of his Commanding Officer and Naval Regulations that we all swear that we will abide by…. The ex-chaplain is a man without honor and you have accepted his story and in doing so you have had ‘the wool pulled over your eyes.’

Holcomb, an ex-marine who served in Vietnam, notes that he is himself is a “born-again evangelical Christian” who has been a naval chaplain for 27 years.

He writes, “We have been relatively quiet regarding our ex-chaplain’s untruthfulness and lack of honor because we are embarrassed that one of our own could display such behavior in the name of our Lord. We wanted to spare all concerned the embarrassment associated with his dishonesty. However, it now seems that it would be wrong for those of us who know the truth to remain silent. I served with him and supervised him (as best as it was possible to supervise a person who refused to submit to lawful authority) and I know about his daily dishonesty and ‘spin’ of the truth.”

Such a thorough and impassioned debunking of Klingenschmitt’s claims should put an end to the matter – but don’t expect the Religious Right propaganda mill to care. We learned long ago that Religious Right zealots create their own reality and push their agenda heedless of the facts.

But, thanks to Capt. Holcomb, the truth about Klingenschmitt has been stated bluntly and with great force for anyone who cares to learn it.

 

 

http://blog.au.org/2007/04/05/a-matter-of-honor-the-truth-comes-out-about-former-chaplain-klingenschmitt/

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As long as our military is

As long as our military is open to  ALL legal citizens, which it should be, then these pricks need to realize that OUR military is not Jesus run or owned, but funded by ALL tax payers. And as such, unless these pricks want to let non-Christians skip paying taxes, which they wont, then they need to grow the fuck up and realize that Christianity is not the only religion that exists in America.

The days of the back of the bus are over. Women and blacks have broken the barrier and now gays, who never should have been prevented from serving in the first place, are finally being treated like any other human should be treated.

I would hope ANY soldier on the field of battle is more concerned about getting shot, than the politics or sexuality of the soldier next to them. Their only goal should be to complete the mission and make it home alive.

If you are willing to risk your life for me, then you should have the same opportunity at life and love like any other person.

FUCK these bigots. Christianity does not own a monopoly on morality. Nor does it own a monopoly on our military.

 

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Brian37 wrote: FUCK these bigots.

     Right on Brian,right on.


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Answers in Gene wrote:the truth about Klingenschmitt ...........

     Thanks for the info on this clown,talk about dumb. WoW !!!


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Thanks for that article

 

 Thanks for that article, Answers in Gene Simmons.

This is interesting.  We have yet again, another shining example from the religion that condemns lying and hypocritical behavior, engaging in lying and hypocritical behavior. 

We also have yet ANOTHER example of a man trying to use the "I am so persecuted because of my love of the Lord" argument in order to persecute other people.

  It never ceases to amaze me when I hear the theists dread alarm cry of 'Oh they are persecuting us simply because of who we are. WHY ? We just hate everyone that does not think exactly like us, what is wrong with that ?" or even better " We don't care what people do, so long as they stay hidden and silent and exist in a vacuum where we never have to acknowledge their basic rights". 

Hehe, I can't count the number of Christians that have told me they do not care if I am an Atheist, so long as I keep quiet and never speak my opinions. Ooooh ! the double standard of it all .

 

 

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 Yah, my google

 Yah, my google midichlorians were of the scale this morning. Win, I guess.

 

Still, I find that the people who just want to be whom they are and not get all in my face about stuff are not the low hanging fruit for what atheism in about (at least to me). So when I find an example of someone who want's to follow the general rules and is willing do denounce someone who want's to play the martyr card, I can't say that this is a bad thing.

 

That being said, I feel a conflict here. If pastor commander can do his thing and not have a problem, then why can't pastor subordinate manage the same thing? It seems that he wants to be all “in your face” about stuff.

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Answers in Gene Simmons

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 Yah, my google midichlorians were of the scale this morning. Win, I guess.

 

Still, I find that the people who just want to be whom they are and not get all in my face about stuff are not the low hanging fruit for what atheism in about (at least to me). So when I find an example of someone who want's to follow the general rules and is willing do denounce someone who want's to play the martyr card, I can't say that this is a bad thing.

 

That being said, I feel a conflict here. If pastor commander can do his thing and not have a problem, then why can't pastor subordinate manage the same thing? It seems that he wants to be all “in your face” about stuff.

Hmm, are you referring to Klingenschmitt or Holcomb ? Maybe I misread something.

 

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