Atheism IS theism
Posted on: August 22, 2010 - 5:08am
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Atheism IS theism
To me, atheism/theism is the purvue of the childish. It's just a weaksauce, childish claim that you can't prove. Learn to dance the Dao, you fricking brat, or If you want equally strong arguments on both sides, I'll go there all day. I think everyone on this forum needs to get laid and/or try shrooms (but no hard drugs, you intellectually-lazy mofos).
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Is he really gone? There were something like 194 posts when I chimed in, and I really didn't want to have to read them all, so I went straight to 'snarky' mode. What I did read made me think the whole thing was rather pointless.
darth, I'm usually not so adept at ignoring trolls, but I'm working on it. Thanks for the support.
I think your high school comment did it. LOL He was on the edge and you pushed him, how do you feel?
Oh and save your time it was pointless!!!!
Throughout human history as our species has faced the frighten terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are and where we are going; it has been the authority (the political, the religious, and the educational authorities) who have attempted to comfort us. By giving us order, rules, and regulation. Informing or forming in our minds their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question these authorities. THINK FOR YOURSELF…
He'll bounce back and post here again - bashers usually do.
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
He'll be back. He's probably taking his hair dyeing test in cosmetology today so he's pretty busy. Gah, I gotta stop being such a butthole but sometimes I just can't help it.
If all the Christians who have called other Christians " not really a Christian " were to vanish, there'd be no Christians left.
If it was part of Mortuary Science he'd at least have a secure job and make decent money
"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin
I'd like to add no disrespect towards anyone in the cosmetology field cuz trust me I've done it. I was just refering to what he said about him being in school or something. He tried to say something about talking intelect I think but this whole thread has been a bunch of nonsense. Of course on froodlys behalf.
If all the Christians who have called other Christians " not really a Christian " were to vanish, there'd be no Christians left.
Nothing like a good butthole to brighten my day.
Attention Gene and the other drunks... have you seen this?
http://www.rationalresponders.com/forum/20982#comment-311597
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I at least respected your stubbornness in redefining a word to suit your belief, but the stuff you just wrote drops that respect significantly. I'm not sure how you could say something like that and be capable of observation and introspection.
Although, since your main defense seems to be claiming that you know everything already I guess I shouldn't expect much.
Everything makes more sense now that I've stopped believing.
Gah! Thanks a lot Froodly. Now my saturday is shot to hell!
That and he would never have to worry about finding a date on Friday night either...
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Hey now, speak for yourself!
I say we should have "agnostics" arrested and strung up by the ears until they decide what they believe.
I like this word use, but I would suggest one possible kind of agnostic that does say something about belief: Huxleyan agnostic.
It seems the word meaning drifted since Huxley coined it, or people didn't understand what he was saying (and I didn't either, until I read some of his comments on the subject, and I'm still not sure I do- and it looks that it may have been an evolving term even in his own usage- shame we can't ask him now).
In reading some assorted statements from Huxley, he seemed to be using the term as a positive and certain rejection of gnosis ("gnosis" not as knowledge in the epistemological sense, but as a sensation as used in revelation, like a psychic connection with a deity, the "deep knowing", or that tingly feeling of certainty from faith) as a source of knowledge, which yields almost strictly scientific naturalism as belief.
So, it seems it wasn't uncertainty about "God", but an absolute rejection of all claims to evidence of this deity. In rejecting all but scientific evidence, it could mean none other than implicit atheism.
So, an 'agnostic' by the original coining (perhaps, *if* I am right), must be an atheist unless in possession of certain and objective evidence of a god's existence. In fact, by what Huxley seemed to have meant, even a positive atheist *must* be an agnostic because he or she rejects gnosis.
I might have to draw a diagram some time.
Anyway, if we were surrounded by Huxleyan agnostics of that kind, I wouldn't half mind it.