a challenge to prove all aspects of evolution (a pagan religious concept) through the scientific method

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a challenge to prove all aspects of evolution (a pagan religious concept) through the scientific method
  1. The vanguard theory of evolution has taken on an almost sacred status.  The theory of ‘evolution’ that the evolutionists are really promoting, and which creationists oppose, is the idea that particles turned into people over time, without any need for an intelligent Designer.
  2. A common tactic, ‘bait-and-switch,’ is simply to produce examples of change over time, call this ‘evolution,’ then imply that the general theory of evolution’   is thereby proven or even essential, and creation disproved.  The key issue is the type of change required—to change microbes into men requires changes that increase the genetic information content.
  3. The three billion DNA ‘letters’ stored in each human cell nucleus convey a great deal more information  (known as ‘specified complexity ) than the over half a million DNA ‘letters’ of the ‘simplest’ self-reproducing organism.

  4. The DNA sequences in a ‘higher’ organism, such as a human being or a horse, for instance, code for structures and functions unknown in the sort of ‘primitive first cell’ from which all other organisms are said to have evolved.
  5. None of the alleged proofs of ‘evolution in action’ provide a single example of functional new information being added to genes. Rather, they all involve sorting and loss of information. To claim that mere change proves that information-increasing change can occur is like saying that because a merchant can sell goods, he can sell them for a profit.
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  7. The origin of information is a major problem for the GENERAL THEORY OF EVOLUTION
  8.  ‘ignoring important distinctions’! It’s evolutionary propagandists who generally mix them up. Biologists frequently define evolution as ‘change in gene frequency with time’ or ‘descent with modification,’ or other such ‘microevolution’ words, and then cite insignificant examples of change within species, such as Darwin’s finches, as clinching proof of ‘evolution’ in the ‘macro’ sense and disproof of creationism!  

 

  1. The scientific method is a way to ask and answer scientific questions by making observations and doing experiments.

 

 

The steps of the scientific method are to:

  1. Ask a Question
  2. Do Background Research
  3. Construct a Hypothesis
  4. Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
  5. Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
  6. Communicate Your Results
  7. It is important for your experiment to be a fair test. A "fair test" occurs when you change only one factor (variable) and keep all other conditions the same.

 

 

1. Observation

 We exist.

2. Proposal of a question or a problem

 How did we get here?

3. A hypothesis or educated guess made

 We evolved from nothing, to dirt, to single cells, to multiple cells, to fish, to amphibians, to reptiles, to mammals, to humans.

4. Scientific experimentation

 Oh, wait a minute. Thats right, evolution can not be observed, tested, or measured. No one has ever done an experiment that made life come from non-life or a lower creature turn into a higher creature and without that empirical evidence evolution can not leave the hypothesis or model phase.
I do not need to prove the creation model true, I can simply prove the evolution model false. There are only two possibilities of how we got here, either we got here by supernatural intervention or we got here on our own, and if one of them can be proven absurd then the other has to be true. Someone that believes in atheistic evolution will never be able to disprove YAHUWAH or the creation because in order to disprove YAHUWAH you would need to be all knowing and omnipresent, in other words you have to have the attributes of YAHUWAH to disprove YAHUWAH. It would be as if you had an infinite amount of white ping pong balls and one red one. If you could never find the red one that does not disprove its existence; however, if someone found the red ball and showed it to you that would prove its existence.     
Evolution is not a proven fact               Evolution is not a scientific natural law                      Evolution is not even a scientific theory

evolution is not based in science. you think you are wise to say you know better but you are just being a smart ass belittling what I posted which is merely facts  based on real science and repeating them is fair.

you and all your slapnut atheist monkey wannabes keep professing your claim to knowledge through  science? I know it is a waste of my time to repeat myself to a bunch of mind bubbles in so many ways!!!

show me the origin of life and matter in space over time through the scientific method WITHOUT exposing youself in fact that you ARE of the spirit of satan as a liar and accuser:

atheist terminology falling under the stupid invented term EVOLUTION:which is being preached in maistream media


Cosmic, chemical, stellar and planetary, organic, macro and micro -------evolution. dont play stupid they are all connected under the scam of evolution even if you ignore most of them because you cannot grasp the big picture. that does NOT mean they are ALL not a part of your unoriginal pagan religion of origins.


Cosmic evolution involves the origin of the universe, time and matter itself. The Big Bang theory falls within this discipline of evolution.                                        NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD



Chemical evolution involves the origin of complex elements. This discipline also attempts to explain the process in which those elements formed. 

NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD


Stellar and planetary evolution is the discipline used to explain the origin of the stars and planets. This is distinct from cosmic evolution, yet, at times, overlaps it.  NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD
 


Organic evolution attempts to explain the origin of living matter. Those in origin of life studies most often focus on this discipline of evolution.
NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD


The two final disciplines of evolution are also the most often confused by people. They are macro-evolution and micro-evolution. Micro-evolution states that all living organisms experience mutations and have the ability to develop genetic adaptations. The difference between this and macro-evolution is that micro-evolution only deals with mutations within a species.

Macro-evolution, on the other hand, states that such adaptations and mutations allow new species to form.

 NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD

 

Also micro changes can be observed with the scientific method. While all the other terms OF EVOLUTION are imaginary and preached as religious fact without question or basis in science or common sense. ( PAGAN HUMANIST /ATHEIST/ CHUMPS WITH CHIMP ENVY/ ARE OF THE SPIRIT OF SATAN)


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Evolution is an ancient pagan concept (MAN MADE RELIGION)where people worship nature / creation instead of a CREATOR or they invent idols based on nature/creation
the theory of evolution has been with us for a very, very long time. It actually comes from ancient pagan religious beliefs that continue to be reflected in many religious traditions around the globe today. It has been documented that many ancient pagan teachers and philosophers believed that the universe spontaneously evolved by itself, that the universe is millions of years old, that humans once resembled fish, and that all living things continue to evolve.
 

ABIOGENESIS:nonliving origin belief      (NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD)


1. (noun) abiogenesis, autogenesis, autogeny, spontaneous generation


a hypothetical organic phenomenon by which living organisms are created from nonliving matter.

Abiogenesis is the idea of life originating from non-living material (non-life).   (NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD)

This concept has expanded a great deal as mankind’s understanding of science has grown, but

all forms of abiogenesis have one thing in common: they are all scientifically unsupportable. 

There have been no experiments demonstrating abiogenesis in action.

It has never been observed in a natural or artificial environment.    (NOW DEMONSTRATE IT THROUGH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD)

Conditions believed to have existed on earth are either incapable of producing the building blocks needed, or self-contradictory.

No evidence has been found suggesting where or when such life might have generated. In fact, everything we know of science today seems to indicate that abiogenesis could not have happened under any naturally possible conditions.


http://www.arrivalofthefittest.com/evolution.html

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so you are a pagan clown who assures me you are stupid?

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Submitted by Tapey on January 2, 2011 - 8:02am.

 

 

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---------> lol you chump with chimp envy!  wikipedia is an atheist bullshit webbsite.   and only an atheist would refer to a blind watchmaker out of stupidity. ie.richard dawkins a high priest of the fools religion for closet pagans who call themselves atheists for non musement.

so by your stupid analogy of random chance you expect great things? tell me chump with your faith in such stupidity would yould play the lottery everyday for ten years and expect to win everyday for ten years straight?  why is mutation your answer when life has to exist first in order to as you  dogmatically say evolved. you   refer to mutations because you are deluded to believe evolution is possible in the first place.  you should learn to think for yourself.

think about your story of origins, how there is no life to begin with thus nothing to evolve .  People get cancer  and people survive to live and have children so your stupid mutations analogy is retarded. survival of the fittest is not a factor that supports your pagan religion for cretards.

 

you are more likely to fail  waste your time with fairy tales than represent the atheist drones on this thread.

speaking of fairy tales I noticed you did not refer to the frog that evolved into an atheist fairy tale. How did the frog evolve into a an atheist dumbass like you?

 

 

 

I assure you, the ugly duckling ad snow white prove evolution and everything you want proof of. Show how my reasoning is incorrect.

 

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-->your reasoning is incorrect  starting with your delusion about fairy tales and how they nothing to do with the origin of matter in space over time .

your satanic worldview is pathetic and demands you to look into the mirror mirror on the wall and see who is the biggest fraud lover of lies of them all. YOu YOU ! says the man in the mirror looking at you in disgust.  your ugly dickling is unable to grasp reality and immature and prone to peer pressure just like you.

You continue to expose your self as a goof calling yourself a high ranking pagan for satan.  level 5 laser dumbass of the reformed neo humanist cult that worships nature based in babylonian crunchbutter.

you need to wake up and go learn yourself you overratted chump with chimp envy!

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I do not need to invent stupid theories for idiots to hide behind. nor would I say it takes too long  to see happening in realtime. I do not need mutations and natural selection and fossils to prove a fact that supports a worldview that is a majority in the worlds population even if we people of are not on the same page as to the truth identity of the ALMIGHTY CREATOR. the fact remains that  the need for communion with our CREATOR ALMIGHTY is relevent becuase there is a issue of life and death for us all.   HE WHO IS ETERNAL /self existent ->  YAHUWAH and He manifests HIMSELF  in so many many ways beyond your atheist capacity to grasp.

since there was by your foolish beliefe no life to evolve all you have is death/nonliving matter/materials that can be found today in living matter.

I  can show through repeatable science that life only comes from life fully funtional with no need to evolve. It happens every day.

A man by the name of Louis Pasture had just finished a set of experiments that proved that micro organisms lived in the air. This was a finding that everyone was waiting for. The reason was there had been a scientific fight between two theories. One was called spontaneous generation and the other theory dictated that life comes from life. The spontaneous generation camp would quickly point out that maggots appeared from meat, that mosquitoes came from a pond or the mice would appear from warm moist soil. How could a maggot appear where there were no other maggots present? How could mold appear on bread where no mold was present? They concluded that matter contained the vital material and energy that would cause life to spontaneously generate if combined with other chemicals or conditions that were right. in 1862 we see that Louis Pasture indeed published the proofs that bacteria is in the air and that is were the "new life" comes from and effectively demolished the theory of spontaneous generation once and for all. In fact, the Law of Biogenesis, that life only comes from life, was formed in part thanks to Pasture's work. We call curing milk pasteurization in honor of Louis's work in bacteria. Pasture had once and for all killed the silly notion that life can come from matter or did he?
 

scientists of all persuasions have missed a critical issue when discussing the validity of evolution. And that is evolution has a pillar, that is a support beam to the theory as a whole, which is based on an assumption that has been disproved centuries ago. This fact is repeatable, demonstrative, and very predicable. In fact, the assumption that life only comes from life, and not inorganic matter, is given the highest level that any assumption is given in science and that is the level of a Law. If there is anything that science knows to be true it is Laws. Laws trump theory. If you take out the idea of spontaneous generation from evolution, I cannot see how the house of evolution can stand. If indeed spontaneous generation is that critical to evolution, then the Law of Bio Genesis trumps the theory of evolution.

present day, one might be mystified to see many great scientists still peddling the evolution myth which is based on a retired old idea. Not only that, we are forcing teachers to teach our kids this myth. One side says that life comes from life and this is observed 100% of the time with not one observable inconsistency, the other side being satanic dumbass monkey wannabe bitchnugget drones says life comes from inorganic matter at some time in the past, which has never been observed or duplicated in labs once ever! Yes, that means no repeatable facts of science.  I am not sure about you as you will have to make up your own immaterial mind, but I think I would place my bets on something that is right 100% of the time and not rely on something that is right 0% of the time as in your case according to your false manmade religion for drones.

So why do so called scientists claim to posses so much evidence of evolution, to the point that the establishment agrees with them?

Simply because these asshole scientists had an assumption where they then went out to find the proofs to support the assumption.

However, if your foundational assumption is wrong, the house of evidence you build on that foundation becomes very suspect. The idea that life can erupt from nonliving matter has been soundly dismissed by the strongest demonstrative methods known to science and as such, the evidence that support that assumption become very suspect. It does not matter how eloquently and skilfully the evidence is built, if the foundation is falling apart the building must be condemned. evolution cannot occur in the first place because it has no foundation in science.

This is also a repeatable fact. you are mentaly deaf dumb and blind .

 

 Science: knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method ..... the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding



So we see by the above definition, that true science should be defined as facts, backed up by tests using the scientific method. So, what is the scientific method? It is defined below.

Scientific Method: principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.
Theory: Pronunciation: 'thE-&-rE, 'thi(-&ampEye-winkr-E
Function: noun
Etymology: Late Latin theoria, from Greek theOria, from theOrein
Date: 1592
The analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another : abstract thought :SPECULATION: a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b :an unproved assumption : CONJECTURE.


 

definition of religion is:
Main Entry: religion
Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back
Date: 13th century
1 a : the state of a religious b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith <-atheists pay attention to your hypocrisy (you are just closet pagans who worships a manmade entity called mother nature) You are for pro choice which is really pro murder of unborn humans. pity no atheists were aborted through that mentality.



 

Another dictionary explains "religion" in these terms:
Religion: a belief in, recognition of or an awakened sense of, a higher, unseen controlling power or powers with the emotion or morality connected therewith: rites or worship: any system of such belief or worship: devoted fidelity: monastic life.
faith
Pronunciation: 'fAth
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural faiths /'fAths, sometimes 'fA[th]z/
Etymology: Middle English feith, from Old French feid, foi, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust -- more at BIDE
Date: 13th century
1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions
2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs
You will notice that the Webster's definition of "faith" is the same as the Biblical definition. I think that we can, in simple terms, explain the faithful of a religion as those who have become an institution by their faith, which is belief in something in which there is no scientific proof. If you can't see it, and no one has ever seen it, and there is no proof that it happened then to believe it is certainly faith and when it is instituted with a group of others, it is a religion.

 

Evolution Is The Religion:
look at ways in which those who believe in evolution are faithful in their religious beliefs.



1. Belief in a "Big Bang," that they have no proof of.

2. Belief in life which resulted from chemical processes, of which they have no proof.

 

 

 

   

 

 

3. Belief in an old Earth, for which no convincing proof has ever been found.
4. Belief in macro-evolution without producing any transitionary forms.
5. Belief in uniformitarianism, that all environmental processes have always been the same on Earth, with no proof of that hypothesis.
First, since evolution is a religion, it should not be subsidized by the government. To me this seems like what the ACLU terms a violation to the separation of Church and State, as accorded in the Constitution. Billions of dollars of government grants are given each year for the furtherment of evolutional study.
Secondly, evolution should not be taught as a theory or fact in public schools. This is another clear violation of the constitution. I have proved that evolution is a faith, and if one looks at it clearly, it takes more faith to believe in it than other faiths do. So, lets get it out of our schools.

 

 I accept  your failure to meet my posted challenge. now run along back to your atheist neo buddist babylonian campfire

 

 

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mind over matter wrote:
The point was that like the gadfly chump with chimp envy you too are a pest  like the kind that dwells and irratates.

"Irratates" ? Irritates the horse's ass, which is you by your own implication.

Saves us the trouble, I guess.

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meeting my challenge

No, you still don't understand the meaning of the words "my" and "challenge".

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tell all your foolish scum theory believers to prove  their religion is not a scumbag religion

And the words "believers" and "religion" seem to be a problem for you as well.

 

 


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Submitted by jcgadfly on January 1, 2011 - 8:39pm.

so he is a sadistic prick and you are happy about it - good to know.

Why are you quoting from the Roman pagan Paul? Or is he a "true Israelite" like the Greeks who made the LXX?

 

->  why don't you prove you are not a chump with chimp envy? explain how you evolved from nothing?

stop being a gadfly on a horses ass

Why should I prove your position for you? Something coming from nothing is your view not mine.

Or do you forget that Yahuwah created life from non-life according to your holy book?

I didn't evolve from nothing. I came from my parents and other ancestors. Just like you.

Poor baby. You know nothing, are incapable of learning anything and are proud of it.

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I assure you, the ugly duckling ad snow white prove evolution and everything you want proof of. Show how my reasoning is incorrect.

 

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-->your reasoning is incorrect  starting with your delusion about fairy tales and how they nothing to do with the origin of matter in space over time .

your satanic worldview is pathetic and demands you to look into the mirror mirror on the wall and see who is the biggest fraud lover of lies of them all. YOu YOU ! says the man in the mirror looking at you in disgust.  your ugly dickling is unable to grasp reality and immature and prone to peer pressure just like you.

You continue to expose your self as a goof calling yourself a high ranking pagan for satan.  level 5 laser dumbass of the reformed neo humanist cult that worships nature based in babylonian crunchbutter.

you need to wake up and go learn yourself you overratted chump with chimp envy!

Your reasoning has failed to win me over to your point of view.

Fairy tales have everything to do with the origin of matter in space over time. Your failure to recognise this fact say more about you than it does about me. Because you are not able to to realise that these stories came into existance at the begining of the universe clouds your judgement. The ugly duckling proves evolution. The duck changed into a swan proving evolution. Snow white and the mirror show that life came from non life and the origin of the universe. Your take on this sciencetific evidence shows you have not given them any thought at all. They show everything you have asked for.

 

Therefore I have sucessfully competed your challenge. You must now accept defeat or try again to convince me of your way of thinking.

 

You are clearly in shock about being wrong.

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Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
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No animal shall sleep in a bed.
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Submitted by jcgadfly on January 2, 2011 - 11:18am.

 

 

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Submitted by jcgadfly on January 1, 2011 - 8:39pm.

so he is a sadistic prick and you are happy about it - good to know.

Why are you quoting from the Roman pagan Paul? Or is he a "true Israelite" like the Greeks who made the LXX?

 

->  why don't you prove you are not a chump with chimp envy? explain how you evolved from nothing?

stop being a gadfly on a horses ass

 

 

Why should I prove your position for you? Something coming from nothing is your view not mine.you believe evolution over billions of years so you believe  something from nothing by nothing and noone, DUMB ASS

Or do you forget that Yahuwah created life from non-life according to your holy book?You didnt read the text, dumbass  .  YAHUWAH formed the human body and then breathed life into it from HIM SELF.  not from non life.  you are a ty[ical liar.

I didn't evolve from nothing. I came from my parents and other ancestors. Just like you. You didnt evolve from anything period. evolution is a man made religion. EVOLUTION bever happend!  learn it!

Poor baby. You know nothing, are incapable of learning anything and are proud of it. I have a huge problem learning lies preached as knowledge gained through the method of science.  Preaching evolution is not teaching anything worth knowing in the real world.  Anything you call knowledge is a getto slang semantics and babble.

 

“Men become civilized not in proportion to their willingness to believe but in proportion to their readiness to doubt” - H.L. Mencken

 

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You failed to demonstrate evolution, I win you stunted slime

you believe evolution? prove it! asshole!  All you do is squat like a duck on a pile of pagan chocolate easter eggs.

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Submitted by Tapey on January 2, 2011 - 11:30am.

 

 

mind over matter wrote:

 



 




 

 

I assure you, the ugly duckling ad snow white prove evolution and everything you want proof of. Show how my reasoning is incorrect.

 

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-->your reasoning is incorrect  starting with your delusion about fairy tales and how they nothing to do with the origin of matter in space over time .

your satanic worldview is pathetic and demands you to look into the mirror mirror on the wall and see who is the biggest fraud lover of lies of them all. YOu YOU ! says the man in the mirror looking at you in disgust.  your ugly dickling is unable to grasp reality and immature and prone to peer pressure just like you.

You continue to expose your self as a goof calling yourself a high ranking pagan for satan.  level 5 laser dumbass of the reformed neo humanist cult that worships nature based in babylonian crunchbutter.

you need to wake up and go learn yourself you overratted chump with chimp envy!

 

 

Your reasoning has failed to win me over to your point of view.  LOL  you are a lost cause within a lost cause within a lost cause!

Fairy tales have everything to do with the origin of matter in space over time. Your failure to recognise this fact say more about you than it does about me. Because you are not able to to realise that these stories came into existance at the begining of the universe clouds your judgement. The ugly duckling proves evolution. The duck changed into a swan proving evolution. Snow white and the mirror show that life came from non life and the origin of the universe. Your take on this sciencetific evidence shows you have not given them any thought at all. They show everything you have asked for.

lol  NO  fairytales show you pink unicorns and flying pigs and evolution. DUMB ASS  your duck changed into a pawn. the pawn is you! That is the moral of this fairy tall tale.  you believe and you lie baed on your beliefe not based on scientific evidence. YOU SLAPNUT atheist monkey wannabe humanist drone!

 

Therefore I have sucessfully competed your challenge. You must now accept defeat or try again to convince me of your way of thinking.

 

You are clearly in shock about being wrong.

YOU FAIL TO GRASP reality , that i why you retreat to your fairy land. DUMB ASS

have you experienced billions of years?  have you witnessed abiogenesis?

do you rely on intelligent design to show how stupid you are?

 

 


 

Evolution: Fact or Faith?
What is 'Science'?
The essence of the scientific method is measurement, observation and repeatability. Neither Creation nor Evolution are scientific in this sense. Neither one can be tested, for the simple reason that we cannot repeat history. The origin of the universe, life and mankind all took place in the past and cannot be studied or repeated in the laboratory. No one, in all human history has ever observed evolution taking place anywhere.
'The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an unproved theory..is it then a science or a faith? Belief in the theory of evolution is thus exactly parallel to belief in special creation..both are concepts which believers know to be true but neither, up to the present, has been capable of proof' (The Foreword to the 1971 edition of Darwin's "Origin of the Species". Harrison L. Matthews. p. x)
'In the classic work, "Implications of Evolution", Dr. G.A. Kerkut, listed seven assumptions upon which evolution is based, and then said.."The first point that I should like to make is that these seven assumptions by their nature are not capable of experimental verification". (The Implications of Evolution. G.A. Kerut. Pergmon, London. p. 7, 1960)

Evolution: Fact or Faith?
The following are a sample of the religions which are structured around an evolutionary philosophy. Buddhism, Hinduism, Confuscianism, Taoism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Jainism, Animism, Spiritism, Occultism, Satanism, Theosophy, Bahaism, Mysticism, Liberal-Judiasm, Isalm and Christianity, Unitarianism, Religious Science, Unity and Humanism. All these share the philosophy (belief structure) that the Universe is Eternal, and reject a self-existent personal God. Evolution is a religion is every sense of the word. It is a world view, a philosophy of life and meaning, an attempt to explain the origin and development of everything from the elements to galaxies to people. There are essentially only three modern creationist religions, orthodox Judaism, Islam and Christianity, these are founded upon the belief in one self-existent eternal Creator, who called the universe itself into existence (Psalm 33:6,9).
At this central beginning point the Bible and Evolution part ways. There is no way that you can believe in an eternal universe and the following passages that all PLACE GOD PRIOR TO 'ALL THINGS MADE'-(John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17; Hebrews 1:10-12).


Even evolutionists consider 'evolution' to be a 'faith'

"Emotionally, I am an atheist. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I strong SUSPECT he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time" ("An Interview with Isaac Asimov on Science and the Bible". Free Inquiry, Vol. 2, Spring 1982 p. 9 By Paul Kurtz).
Logically, if Mr. Asimov doesn't have the 'evidence' to disprove the existence of God (including creation); then neither can he have the 'evidence' that proves his atheism (and the evolution that under-girds it). Which means that his atheism is a 'faith-religion', and he realizes that evolution lacks 'proof'. Before we move on, many assume that no 'real' scientist would ever believe in creation. The following scientists did: In Physics-Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin. Chemistry-Boyle, Dalton, Pascal, Ramsay. Biology-Ray, Linnaeus, ******, Pasteur. Geology-Steno, Woodward, Brewster, Agassiz. Astronomy-Kepler, Galileo, Herschel, Maunder.

What we haven't been told:
In the Creation-Evolution debate, Christians have been depicted as naive, stupid, gullible, ignorant, having their heads in the sand, out of date, and so on. God tells Christians not to be gullible, to get all the facts (Mark 4:24; 1 Thess. 5:21). The following are things that we haven't been told on PBS, in the National Geographic, or in the classroom. Why?

A. CONCERNING THE FOSSIL RECORD:
The impression given in our schools and in the media is that evolution is an established fact of science, and that it is clearly demonstrated in the fossil record. If evolution did happen, then the fossil record should be full of 'evidence'. But Stephen Jay Gloud, Harvard's top evolutionist has admitted: "Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless"
Another evolutionist adds: "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology (the study of fossils) DOES NOT PROVIDE THEM" (Evolution. Vol. 28 (Sept. 1974). p. 467. David B. Kitts 'Paleontology and Evolutionary Theory'). What this means is that living things have remained the same! This agrees with what Christians have believed all along. (Genesis 1:12,21,24)

B. EVOLUTION AND ESTABLISHED LAWS OF SCIENCE:
The most universal laws of science are the first and second law of thermodynamics. "As far as we know, all changes are in the direction of increasing entropy, of increasing disorder, of increasing randomness, or running down" (Isaac Asimov. 1973). This is the second law, all systems are in the process of running down, decaying, growing old, moving from order to disorder. The Bible agrees (Hebrews 1:11-12). But evolution has everything moving 'upward', not downward:
"One problem biologists have faced is the apparent contradiction by evolution of the second law of thermodynamics. Systems should decay through time, giving less, NOT MORE ORDER" ("A Downward Slope to Greater Diversity". Science. Vol. 217 (Sept. 24, 1982). p. 1239 Roger Lewin)

C. THE SUPPOSED AGE OF THE UNIVERSE:
We often hear dates in the billions for the age of the universe. These dates are frequently stated in the classroom or on television. "It is obvious that radiometric techniques may not be the absolute dating methods that they are CLAIMED TO BE. Age estimates on a given geological stratum by different radiometric methods are often quite different (sometimes by hundreds of millions of years (boy, that narrows it down-M.D.). There is no absolutely reliable long-term radiological clock" (The Science of Evolution. New York. Macmillan. 1977. p. 84 William D.Stansfield)

D. THE AGE OF MAN HIMSELF:
Evolution claims that man has been on the earth for a million years. The problem is that using population statistics, the universe should be packed with people. Assuming a million year occupation, starting with two people, taking a very conservative growth rate (1/2 percent---the current is 2 percent), a million years of mankind would calculate to a present population of 10 to the 2100 power people (only 10 to the 130 power electrons could be crammed into the entire known universe!) The same figures would arrive at the current population on the planet in 4000 years. It is interesting to note that Jesus placed man and woman 'from the beginning of Creation' (Mark 10:6; Matthew 19:4). Jesus didn't have a 4 billion year gap between the planet and mankind's arrival.

E. THE GEOLOGICAL COLUMN:
For years we have been told that the Geological Column, the assemblage of fossil-bearing sedimentary rocks around the world, was formed over millions of years. But: (1) Every unit in the column was formed rapidly (The Nature of the Geographical Record. New York. John Wiley Publ., 1981. pp. 54, 106-107, etc..Derek V. Ager). (2) There are no worldwide unconformities in the column (that is, "time breaks, or periods of erosion rather than deposition&quotEye-wink. The entire column from bottom to top reflects unbroken continuity (i.e. one layer laid down right after another). (3) Supposed 'old' and 'new' fossils are mixed up in the column. Rocks of all types, minerals, metals, coal and oil, structures of all types are found indiscriminately in rocks of all 'supposed time periods'. Rather than a slow process, involving millions of years, this sounds like the column was formed all at one time, during and following a great world wide disaster, a disaster that would of curned up the whole face of the earth, moved whole mountains and formed others, buried hundreds, thousands and millions of living things in common graves--hey, this sounds a lot like the Flood of Noah. Sadly, everybody wants to forget about the flood. (2 Peter 3:3-7).

What does evolution have left?
'No one has ever found an organism that is known not to have had parents, or a parent. This is the strongest evidence on behalf of evolution' ( Harvard geneticist and evolutionist Richard Lewontin. In an interview in Harpers entitled, 'Agnostic Evolutionists'. Feb. 1985 p. 61)
Think about this above argument long and hard. This evolutionist has admitted that no one has ever found an organism that did not originate from parent-stock! Is this evidence a death-blow to creation? Or is it a death-blow to evolution? Which 'theory' affirms that all life has come from pre-existing life? In Creation, ultimately everything came from God. (Genesis 1:1). In evolution, where did everything ultimately come from? Life or non-life?

 

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 I AMdispelling the two

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dispelling the two most popular myths perpetuated by most advocates of evolutionism, namely:

1. The myth that the Neo-Darwinian macro-evolution belief system—as heavily popularized by today’s self-appointed “science experts,” the popular media, academia, and certain government agencies—finds “overwhelming” or even merely unequivocal support in the data of empirical science
2. The myth that the alternative—biblical creation—somehow fails to find any compelling, corroborative support in the same data

The question of origins is plainly a matter of science history—not the domain of applied science.  Contrary to the unilateral denials of many evolutionists, one’s worldview does indeed play heavily on one’s interpretation of scientific data, a phenomenon that is magnified in matters concerning origins, where neither repeatability, nor observation, nor measurement—the three immutable elements of the scientific method—may be employed.  Many proponents of evolutionism nevertheless persist in claiming exclusive “scientific” status for their popularized beliefs, while heaping out-of-hand dismissal and derision upon all doubters, spurning the very advice of Darwin himself.

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mind over matter wrote: I

mind over matter wrote:

 I AM

dispelling the two most popular myths perpetuated by most advocates of evolutionism, namely:

1. The myth that the Neo-Darwinian macro-evolution belief system—as heavily popularized by today’s self-appointed “science experts,” the popular media, academia, and certain government agencies—finds “overwhelming” or even merely unequivocal support in the data of empirical science
2. The myth that the alternative—biblical creation—somehow fails to find any compelling, corroborative support in the same data

The question of origins is plainly a matter of science history—not the domain of applied science.  Contrary to the unilateral denials of many evolutionists, one’s worldview does indeed play heavily on one’s interpretation of scientific data, a phenomenon that is magnified in matters concerning origins, where neither repeatability, nor observation, nor measurement—the three immutable elements of the scientific method—may be employed.  Many proponents of evolutionism nevertheless persist in claiming exclusive “scientific” status for their popularized beliefs, while heaping out-of-hand dismissal and derision upon all doubters, spurning the very advice of Darwin himself.

 

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this MoM is crazy

this MoM is crazy


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luca wrote:this MoM is crazy

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this MoM is crazy

He's also a proselytizing jew. (A term used to denote a Christian during Roman times)

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kapkao wrote:luca wrote:this

kapkao wrote:
luca wrote:
this MoM is crazy

He's also a proselytizing jew. (A term used to denote a Christian during Roman times)

I can't help but notice that you have actually 2794 posts, and are on rrs from about... 16 months?
With a fast calculation this gives about 6 messages/day. Impressive.

Also from what I've heard about this yahuwah I can't tell if it's a joke or it's a religion.


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What's so great about 6/day?

What's so great about 6/day? On a rainy day it might be twice that...


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What's so great??? In how

What's so great??? In how many threads you post, everyone?! It's a very big number for me.


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luca wrote:What's so

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What's so great??? In how many threads you post, everyone?! It's a very big number for me.

You have posted a little over one a day since you joined ---- so?

I've posted a lot because I have been unemployed for two years and I am going stir crazy. 

 

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cj wrote:luca wrote:What's

cj wrote:

luca wrote:
What's so great??? In how many threads you post, everyone?! It's a very big number for me.

You have posted a little over one a day since you joined ---- so?

I've posted a lot because I have been unemployed for two years and I am going stir crazy. 

 

Well I can go in internet max once a day, I have a very limited possibility to use it. I have to download all the messages before reading them and such. But still the point was that I don't even know where you could post so much messages, you like should be in a lot of threads, that's all.


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Pfft.

 

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Has anyone brought up this

Has anyone brought up this site? Just wondering.


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BenfromCanada wrote:Has

BenfromCanada wrote:

Has anyone brought up this site? Just wondering.

More than once, I would assume.

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