Correlation between Atheist/theist and educational level

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Correlation between Atheist/theist and educational level

A little help here. I'm having a chat with some theists who seems to think that we can never be rid of religion. I'm sure I've read articles, studies and scientific evidence of the correlation between education and Atheism. Or to put it bluntly, dumb people believe in god.

 

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

I found this but, like me, it's old:

Intelligence and religion.

 

Thanks!

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According to

According to this:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity_and_intelligence

 

 

The difference between Atheists and Theists is  5.86 IQ points.

 

 

 

 


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Thanks, but I'm really after

Thanks, but I'm really after a conclusive report. One of those similar to the anti-gun report that actually converted John Lott from anti-gun to NRA registered, gun toting 2nd Amendment lover.

 

I know it's a lot to ask (although you are Ms. statistician) but there must be something. Did you happen to click on the link I provided? It's fully of sources that I'd find tough to accept. Not a large enough pool etc.

Oh, and isn't I.Q. a subject still out for review?

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 abu, the link you posted

 abu, the link you posted and the one from pineapple are two of the best I know of.  All my research in this area I haven't seen anything better than the two links already provided.

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,.,.,.,.

Good enough for me, Sapient.

 

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Simple.I am an

Simple.

I am an atheist.

Paisley is not.

Done.

 


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Abu Lahab wrote:It's fully

Abu Lahab wrote:
It's fully of sources that I'd find tough to accept. Not a large enough pool etc.

 

Not to mention I couldn't actually find links to said studies, and studies I've seen seem to contratict them.

 

 

 


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I disagree that dumb people

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.


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The Daily Telegraph (UK) had

The Daily Telegraph (UK) had something about this during the week.

I posted a link in the general forum.

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Ciarin wrote:I disagree that

Ciarin wrote:

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.

I am sure you are smart and you seem like a nice person. But just like I go after Caposkia(sp) and FS and even Capt Pinnaple's pantheism, I see you as being in the same boat with your claims as well. Liking something and being smart is still a separate issue than being able to demonstrate what one claims.

Newton most certainly was a smart person, but he also bought into alchemy. His smartness did not stop him into believing false things.

I think Plato was smart too, but that didn't make the Greek Gods of the time real. The Egyptians were master builders but that didn't make the sun a thinking being.

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Brian37 wrote:he also bought

Brian37 wrote:
he also bought into alchemy

 

What's the problem with alchemy?

It was as state-of-the-art as any science could get in its time.

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Take a look at the sources

Take a look at the sources at the bottom of that wiki page for more information on the subject. As always, wiki is a great STARTING point in any search for information.  Smiling

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Ciarin wrote:I disagree that

Ciarin wrote:

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.

Smart enough to know the studies are a guide not a rule?

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Sapient wrote:Ciarin wrote:I

Sapient wrote:

Ciarin wrote:

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.

Smart enough to know the studies are a guide not a rule?

 

Apparently the OP isn't

 

 

 


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Brian37 wrote:Ciarin wrote:I

Brian37 wrote:

Ciarin wrote:

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.

I am sure you are smart and you seem like a nice person.

 

Don't let my online persona fool you, in IRL I'm a big meany.


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Ciarin wrote:Don't let my

Ciarin wrote:

Don't let my online persona fool you, in IRL I'm a big meany.

 

Every morning, I contemplate whether I should wear black or white stockings under my miniskirt.

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Marquis wrote:Ciarin

Marquis wrote:

Ciarin wrote:

Don't let my online persona fool you, in IRL I'm a big meany.

 

Every morning, I contemplate whether I should wear black or white stockings under my miniskirt.

 

slut


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Ciarin wrote: Marquis

Ciarin wrote:

Marquis wrote:

Ciarin wrote:

I'm a big meany.

 

I contemplate

 

slut

 

Oh, but you have no idea...

 

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Il Duce FTMFW

Il Duce FTMFW


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Ciarin wrote: MF    

Ciarin wrote:

MF

 

 


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I know he's speaking

I know he's speaking english, but I have no fucking clue what he's saying.


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Ciarin wrote:I have no

Ciarin wrote:

I have no fucking clue what he's saying.

 

Cancel your holiday plans to Glasgow then.

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Marquis wrote:Ciarin wrote:I

Marquis wrote:

Ciarin wrote:

I have no fucking clue what he's saying.

 

Cancel your holiday plans to Glasgow then.

 

I'd rather go to Wales actually.


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Ciarin wrote:I'd rather go

Ciarin wrote:
I'd rather go to Wales actually.

 


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sounds like my grandpa.

sounds like my grandpa.


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Ciarin wrote: sounds like  

Ciarin wrote:

sounds like

 


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Is the intelligence

Is the intelligence correlation involving fundamental religious beliefs, liberal religious beliefs, or religious people all together? I've met some Theists who seemed open minded, but they weren't fundies. I've been disappointed by some Theists who don't even know their own belief.

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Ciarin wrote:I disagree that

Ciarin wrote:

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.

 

Are you a fundie[fundamentalist]?

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Hybrid-D_91 wrote:Ciarin

Hybrid-D_91 wrote:

Ciarin wrote:

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.

 

Are you a fundie[fundamentalist]?

 

SHe believes in many god's

panetheist i believe 


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Hybrid-D_91 wrote:Ciarin

Hybrid-D_91 wrote:

Ciarin wrote:

I disagree that dumb people are religious. I'm wicked smart.

 

Are you a fundie[fundamentalist]?

 

Not yet.