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I have one question for everyone that lives in North America...... why are all the major sports in your country so crappy and lame? But more importantly don't you get bored playing by yourselves? No one else plays your sports really. 

 

Lets look at some examples shall we

 

Lets start with baseball.

Has there ever been a more boring sport? Hit ball once and then run then you are done. The repeat for however nuimber of unnings there are...... yay. It just doesn't have the skill that is needed from cricket. It doesn't have anything that makes it worth watching imo.

 

Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

 

When will you Americans join the rest of the world? You cannot resist the trio of Cricket/soccer/rugby forever. Why do you persist with such lame sports. Don't you get tired of always playing yourselves as no one else plays your sports?

 

But most importantly why the hell do you have something called the WORLD SERIES  in baseball when only two countries take part? Are you confused or something? Says alot about the mentality over there

 

 

 

 

 

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But seriously. Why do sports matter?


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They don't. But they are nice to have around

 


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Tapey wrote: It just

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 It just doesn't have the skill that is needed from cricket. It doesn't have anything that makes it worth watching imo.

 

Well then please post a video of you hitting a 100MPH fastball or a wicked slider. I'm sure we could get you a contract making $30Million a year and then you won't be talking about how much baseball sucks.

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As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps.

  

That's pretty much it's origins. The rules for safety were added when too many people were getting killed or maimed for life playing the game. Rules were also added to make the game require more strategy rather than just brute force. Seems to me like Rugby is just whoever is willing to risk brain injuries more than the other team is the winner.

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Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

  

Would you prefer all sports like the ancient Greeks and compete naked? And what's with faking injuries and whining in soccer?

 

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When will you Americans join the rest of the world? You cannot resist the trio of Cricket/soccer/rugby forever. Why do you persist with such lame sports. Don't you get tired of always playing yourselves as no one else plays your sports?

   

Seems like the opposite is happening, where American football, the NBA, etc.. is more popular overseas. Seems like baseball is more popular in a lot of Latin American than in the USA. Maybe the USA can win the world cup soccer?

 

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But most importantly why the hell do you have something called the WORLD SERIES  in baseball when only two countries take part? Are you confused or something? Says alot about the mentality over there

   

I think the name started when the game was only popular in the USA. The best players in the world still come here to play, so I think the name is still appropriate. If other countries have teams that could beat our best pro teams, then there should be a real "world series".

 

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Tapey wrote:Now American

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Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

 

As a Britisher that likes both American Football and Rugby (as well as Shinty and other insane sports) I feel I have to step in here.  I agree with the protective gear in American Football and I'll tell you why.  

Weightlifters and sprinters use the same muscles in their legs.  The type of muscle required for a sharp, instant burst of speed also delivers an incredible amount of power.  It's the same muscles used by the defensive line in an American Football game.  Defensive line-men will easily weigh anything between 300 to 350 lbs.  If you watch any game of American Football you'll see that a a guard in the offensive line can easily be expected to hold off two defenders at the same time.  Potentially that's 700lbs of weight being delivered with a powerful thrust to his shoulders and subsequently his spine.  I don't have the calculations but I'd be willing to argue that on average a "football" players shoulders and spine will take more high pressure impacts per day than a Rugby player.  I think pads above the shoulders designed to absorb the shock of the impact are the only sensible way to go.

If you want to argue the Rugby case then I'd point out the following:  Most impacts happen to the player holding the ball, That player is always braced for and moving away from impact, most rugby tackles will not have the same level of 'snap' to them than in American Football.

That's not to say rugby isn't a tough sport.  It's brutal and I love it because of that but I think it's unfair to say that American Football, which is really more of a tactical game than Brits give it credit for, is for wimps.

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That's pretty much it's origins. The rules for safety were added when too many people were getting killed or maimed for life playing the game. Rules were also added to make the game require more strategy rather than just brute force. Seems to me like Rugby is just whoever is willing to risk brain injuries more than the other team is the winner.

 

I think this is absolutely true.  Just ask the Irish this year - the winning team is the group of individuals happiest to take a hit to the head Smiling

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we don't play cricket

we don't play cricket because we don't like wearing faggy white sweaters.

cricketers wear faggy sweaters, tight white pants, and look like fairies when they pitch.

also terms like "cricket" and "wicket" make it sound like a game the cast of winnie the pooh would have invented.

these are facts.

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Well then please post a video of you hitting a 100MPH fastball or a wicked slider. I'm sure we could get you a contract making $30Million a year and then you won't be talking about how much baseball sucks.  

When a baseball player can do that for hours instead of once every hour or so come again.

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That's pretty much it's origins. The rules for safety were added when too many people were getting killed or maimed for life playing the game. Rules were also added to make the game require more strategy rather than just brute force. Seems to me like Rugby is just whoever is willing to risk brain injuries more than the other team is the winner.

er rugby has stricter rules, way more stratagy. You cannot throw the ball forward, its forces you to use stratagy to create openings etc. you don't get anywhere by runing into each other trying to oiver power each other.

 

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all sports like the ancient Greeks and compete naked? And what's with faking injuries and whining in soccer?

Soccer isn't ment to be a overly physical sport. but the whining is annoying but as it isn't a overly phyiscal sport its bareable. And if they get caught faking they get sent off the field. But no not naked just without amour. something small ok fine but not what the american footbal people have.

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Seems like the opposite is happening, where American football, the NBA, etc.. is more popular overseas. Seems like baseball is more popular in a lot of Latin American than in the USA. Maybe the USA can win the world cup soccer?

   

Pffft overseas? WOW a game played in more than 1 country. Notice I didn't include basketball, I will say that is a decent sport not good but ok. Don't supose you can show me some countries where all these american sports are the major sports played in countries. Im sure they are in some places. They are not even in the same leagyue as other sports. Btw USA will not win the Football world cup, not for a long time ,the country is not serious enough about it.

 

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I think the name started when the game was only popular in the USA. The best players in the world still come here to play, so I think the name is still appropriate. If other countries have teams that could beat our best pro teams, then there should be a real "world series".

 

but they don't as the game isn't popular enough outside America.

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iwbiek wrote:we don't play

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we don't play cricket because we don't like wearing faggy white sweaters.

cricketers wear faggy sweaters, tight white pants, and look like fairies when they pitch.

also terms like "cricket" and "wicket" make it sound like a game the cast of winnie the pooh would have invented.

these are facts.

err cricket players don't pitch. Thats baseball. And yes baseball players are fairies with beards. And if you don't like white, play 50 overs ODI matches or pro 20 matches not 5 day test matches.

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Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

 

As a Britisher that likes both American Football and Rugby (as well as Shinty and other insane sports) I feel I have to step in here.  I agree with the protective gear in American Football and I'll tell you why.  

Weightlifters and sprinters use the same muscles in their legs.  The type of muscle required for a sharp, instant burst of speed also delivers an incredible amount of power.  It's the same muscles used by the defensive line in an American Football game.  Defensive line-men will easily weigh anything between 300 to 350 lbs.  If you watch any game of American Football you'll see that a a guard in the offensive line can easily be expected to hold off two defenders at the same time.  Potentially that's 700lbs of weight being delivered with a powerful thrust to his shoulders and subsequently his spine.  I don't have the calculations but I'd be willing to argue that on average a "football" players shoulders and spine will take more high pressure impacts per day than a Rugby player.  I think pads above the shoulders designed to absorb the shock of the impact are the only sensible way to go.

If you want to argue the Rugby case then I'd point out the following:  Most impacts happen to the player holding the ball, That player is always braced for and moving away from impact, most rugby tackles will not have the same level of 'snap' to them than in American Football.

That's not to say rugby isn't a tough sport.  It's brutal and I love it because of that but I think it's unfair to say that American Football, which is really more of a tactical game than Brits give it credit for, is for wimps.

and I put all of that down to lack of skill for the need for protective gear. yes im scientific

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I have one question for everyone that lives in North America...... why are all the major sports in your country so crappy and lame? But more importantly don't you get bored playing by yourselves? No one else plays your sports really.

Once upon a time y'all didn't drink Coca Cola or get unneeded calories from McDonalds and now there's few places without.

 

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Lets start with baseball.

Has there ever been a more boring sport? Hit ball once and then run then you are done. The repeat for however nuimber of unnings there are...... yay. It just doesn't have the skill that is needed from cricket. It doesn't have anything that makes it worth watching imo.

The long periods of time are needed so one can get crappy American beer and footlong hotdogs.

 

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Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

Since we have such a shitty health care system we must attempt to reduce injuries lest the survivors file lawsuits in our complex court system. Yet, we manage to maim over 40,000 high school players each year with injuries such as concussions, spinal cord damage but avarage only about 4 deaths per year. Do you want us to kill more of our own while they are young so they can't grow up to be soldiers?

 

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When will you Americans join the rest of the world? You cannot resist the trio of Cricket/soccer/rugby forever. Why do you persist with such lame sports. Don't you get tired of always playing yourselves as no one else plays your sports?

 

We seem to be selling the NFL idea in Europe and don't have any problem selling out the NFL games that are held overseas.

The NBA has become very popular throughout the world as well.

As to baseball, even our friends in Cuba can't get enough, they supply many of our best players. If they can swim from Cuba to Key West they clearly have enough stamina to play a few innings.

Japan and many other countries also can't get enough of baseball another supplier of players to  MLB.

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But most importantly why the hell do you have something called the WORLD SERIES  in baseball when only two countries take part? Are you confused or something? Says alot about the mentality over there

Eventually you will give up on silly games such as cricket and adopt baseball just like Coca Cola.

 

 

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I have one question for everyone that lives in North America...... why are all the major sports in your country so crappy and lame? But more importantly don't you get bored playing by yourselves? No one else plays your sports really.

Once upon a time y'all didn't drink Coca Cola or get unneeded calories from McDonalds and now there's few places without.

 

Tapey wrote:

Lets start with baseball.

Has there ever been a more boring sport? Hit ball once and then run then you are done. The repeat for however nuimber of unnings there are...... yay. It just doesn't have the skill that is needed from cricket. It doesn't have anything that makes it worth watching imo.

The long periods of time are needed so one can get crappy American beer and footlong hotdogs.

 

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Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

Since we have such a shitty health care system we must attempt to reduce injuries lest the survivors file lawsuits in our complex court system. Yet, we manage to maim over 40,000 high school players each year with injuries such as concussions, spinal cord damage but avarage only about 4 deaths per year. Do you want us to kill more of our own while they are young so they can't grow up to be soldiers?

 

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When will you Americans join the rest of the world? You cannot resist the trio of Cricket/soccer/rugby forever. Why do you persist with such lame sports. Don't you get tired of always playing yourselves as no one else plays your sports?

 

We seem to be selling the NFL idea in Europe and don't have any problem selling out the NFL games that are held overseas.

The NBA has become very popular throughout the world as well.

As to baseball, even our friends in Cuba can't get enough, they supply many of our best players. If they can swim from Cuba to Key West they clearly have enough stamina to play a few innings.

Japan and many other countries also can't get enough of baseball another supplier of players to  MLB.

Tapey wrote:

 

But most importantly why the hell do you have something called the WORLD SERIES  in baseball when only two countries take part? Are you confused or something? Says alot about the mentality over there

Eventually you will give up on silly games such as cricket and adopt baseball just like Coca Cola.

 

 

All I can say to your neo-liberal agenda is let the second cold war begin! the free world vs America and its supporters  Cricket shal prevail

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Tapey wrote:All I can say to

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All I can say to your neo-liberal agenda is let the second cold war begin! the free world vs America and its supporters  Cricket shal prevail

Cricket is not broadcast on any American TV and is only played at uppty universites such as Yale & Harvard. There are no companies that currently seem interested in being sponsers for a sport that would draw less of an audience than a  Fox TV canceled TV show. Even worse, Las Vegas doesn't seem to have any betting lines on the games. Vegas has lines on the CFL, Soccer, and even the WNBA, but alas no cricket. I think you have a long battle which was lost over 125 years ago.

See here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/mike_atherton/article6194248.ece

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WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

           To start with,   The WORLD SERIES is so called because of THE SPONSER.   It does lead to confusion but the simple story is that a newspaper named The N.Y.WORLD sponsered the first two championship series between the National Baseball League and the upstart American Baseball league,  ergo The WORLD Series,   if it was sponsered by;  lets say the GLOBE,  the POST,  the HAROLD,  etc...... it would carry that name.   The WORLD newspaper went out of buisness but the name stayed.

 

 

           Baseball can be boring at times, but never to a purist.  IT IS America's pastime;   not America's speed merchants--thats NASCAR or Indy.  It was ment to be enjoyed on a lazy hot summers day with hot dogs and peanuts and cold drinks,  it grew from pre-civil war small towns who gathered at the towns (then commen) corrals on Sunday afternoons (Cows were there the other 6 days) to watch the local boys play town ball.  The game still carrys some of those early terms, Bull pen, warning tracks, gate reciepts, grand stands, boxes.    The boxes were fenced areas- with seats- near to where a cattle auctioneer would sell off the stock -6 days a week- you  needed to pay money to get there. The stands were free and it is where one stood to watch the game- or auction.

 

 

           American and Canadian Football  you must think of as a Chess match with Giants    not the willy-nilly up and down feild of soccor and rugby.  Each move, both offence and defence must be calculated like a general prepareing for battle.  My Patriots are playing at Wembly in London England this weekend the NFL is expecting 80,000 plus for Brady and the gang.

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Cricket!!!!

 

 

 

            Please note my Avatar;  My father-in-law has cricket cableTV and watches it day long,  live from around the world. There seams to be a match happening somewhere all the time.  Luckily I have more then one TV in the house,   weekends my house is filled with Guyanese watching cricket!!!   But at least I turned some of them into Patriot fans;  that is not easy here in Bills &  Argonauts Territory.

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All I can say to your neo-liberal agenda is let the second cold war begin! the free world vs America and its supporters  Cricket shal prevail

Cricket is not broadcast on any American TV and is only played at uppty universites such as Yale & Harvard. There are no companies that currently seem interested in being sponsers for a sport that would draw less of an audience than a  Fox TV canceled TV show. Even worse, Las Vegas doesn't seem to have any betting lines on the games. Vegas has lines on the CFL, Soccer, and even the WNBA, but alas no cricket. I think you have a long battle which was lost over 125 years ago.

See here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/mike_atherton/article6194248.ece

I can say the exact same about baseball here oh and american football. Sure maybe it will appear on an international channel like iraq tv or something but no one watches it. Nothing local touches the stuff. Same with american football. If it wasn't for america pushing its culture onto everything the moves I would never of even of heard of the sport.

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  To start with,   The WORLD SERIES is so called because of THE SPONSER.   It does lead to confusion but the simple story is that a newspaper named The N.Y.WORLD sponsered the first two championship series between the National Baseball League and the upstart American Baseball league,  ergo The WORLD Series,   if it was sponsered by;  lets say the GLOBE,  the POST,  the HAROLD,  etc...... it would carry that name.   The WORLD newspaper went out of buisness but the name stayed.

 

fair enough still it is a silly name. I though it must of been soimething tlike that, not even americans are that vain.

 

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           Baseball can be boring at times, but never to a purist.  IT IS America's pastime;   not America's speed merchants--thats NASCAR or Indy.  It was ment to be enjoyed on a lazy hot summers day with hot dogs and peanuts and cold drinks,  it grew from pre-civil war small towns who gathered at the towns (then commen) corrals on Sunday afternoons (Cows were there the other 6 days) to watch the local boys play town ball.  The game still carrys some of those early terms, Bull pen, warning tracks, gate reciepts, grand stands, boxes.    The boxes were fenced areas- with seats- near to where a cattle auctioneer would sell off the stock -6 days a week- you  needed to pay money to get there. The stands were free and it is where one stood to watch the game- or auction.

 oooo NASCAR is another dumb ass sport. Wow those tracks are complicated. yes sure the amout of cars does might make it sightly tricky but still stupid.

 

look as i see it baseball is americas version of cricket just for less talented people. both can be boring. but cricket is better.

 

 

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           American and Canadian Football  you must think of as a Chess match with Giants    not the willy-nilly up and down feild of soccor and rugby.  Each move, both offence and defence must be calculated like a general prepareing for battle.  My Patriots are playing at Wembly in London England this weekend the NFL is expecting 80,000 plus for Brady and the gang.

pffffft you require to squads to play one match? bwahahahahaha no talent. The same people should play both roles, then your starting line up becomes really important. As for the stratagy i have no doubt planing is involved. all sports have stratagies its just peopple who are unfamiliar with them cannot see them. i will admit i won't see half of what is going on in a american football match.

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All I can say to your neo-liberal agenda is let the second cold war begin! the free world vs America and its supporters  Cricket shal prevail

Cricket is not broadcast on any American TV and is only played at uppty universites such as Yale & Harvard. There are no companies that currently seem interested in being sponsers for a sport that would draw less of an audience than a  Fox TV canceled TV show. Even worse, Las Vegas doesn't seem to have any betting lines on the games. Vegas has lines on the CFL, Soccer, and even the WNBA, but alas no cricket. I think you have a long battle which was lost over 125 years ago.

See here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/mike_atherton/article6194248.ece

I can say the exact same about baseball here oh and american football. Sure maybe it will appear on an international channel like iraq tv or something but no one watches it. Nothing local touches the stuff. Same with american football. If it wasn't for america pushing its culture onto everything the moves I would never of even of heard of the sport.

 

Now you know why cars come in different colors. Different people, different tastes. The US still has a very large economy, #1 in the world for now, so what we like is what the corporations cater to in the US. If you aren't interested, don't watch turn you head or change the channel.  If suddenly masses of Americans decided cricket was cool, it would inundate the airwaves. I wouldn't hold your breath for that though. It's been tried several times and fails miseably each time.

Unlike you, I didn't need movies to know about cricket, soccer, or rugby. Soccer is played all over America and continues to be popular, but mostly amateur leagues and recreational. Cricket and rugby are pretty much associated with the British and uppty Universities and generally aren't something the average American considers to be interesting. We have many activities which can distract us in our free time and sports are only a small part.

 

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Unlike you, I didn't need movies to know about cricket, soccer, or rugby.

 

erm i have never seen a movie about any of these sports. I don't see what gave you that idea.  why would you watch a movie about a sport, that makes no sense.

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Unlike you, I didn't need movies to know about cricket, soccer, or rugby.

 

erm i have never seen a movie about any of these sports. I don't see what gave you that idea.  why would you watch a movie about a sport, that makes no sense.

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Same with american football. If it wasn't for america pushing its culture onto everything the moves I would never of even of heard of the sport.

You said you heard about American football in movies. I said I didn't need movies to learn about cricket etc.

And by the way I agree with you,  cricket and rugby make no sense.

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In the future, kindly

In the future, kindly refrain from lumping Canada in with the US to talk about North Americans, only to proceed to talk about US sports. Baseball sucks, is boring, and requires less skill than any other sport. Football is, as mentioned, a pussy version of Rugby, which is also quite boring.
Hockey, on the other hand, requires more skill than any other game. And it's SO damn awesome that they had to put it in the Olympics, and the US had to buy as much of it as they could even though their people tend to prefer football. The only team game with a faster pace is basketball, but it doesn't require nearly as much skill.

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In the future, kindly refrain from lumping Canada in with the US to talk about North Americans, only to proceed to talk about US sports. Baseball sucks, is boring, and requires less skill than any other sport. Football is, as mentioned, a pussy version of Rugby, which is also quite boring. Hockey, on the other hand, requires more skill than any other game. And it's SO damn awesome that they had to put it in the Olympics, and the US had to buy as much of it as they could even though their people tend to prefer football. The only team game with a faster pace is basketball, but it doesn't require nearly as much skill.

 

 

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If I were going to argue for curling, I would have done so. It probably does require more skill than football though...
Of course, it's just as boring, perhaps more so.

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I have one question for everyone that lives in North America...... why are all the major sports in your country so crappy and lame? But more importantly don't you get bored playing by yourselves? No one else plays your sports really. 

 

Lets look at some examples shall we

 

Lets start with baseball.

Has there ever been a more boring sport? Hit ball once and then run then you are done. The repeat for however nuimber of unnings there are...... yay. It just doesn't have the skill that is needed from cricket. It doesn't have anything that makes it worth watching imo.

 

Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

 

When will you Americans join the rest of the world? You cannot resist the trio of Cricket/soccer/rugby forever. Why do you persist with such lame sports. Don't you get tired of always playing yourselves as no one else plays your sports?

 

But most importantly why the hell do you have something called the WORLD SERIES  in baseball when only two countries take part? Are you confused or something? Says alot about the mentality over there

 

 

 

 

 

 

I demand that you state your country of origin so that I might mount an equally misinformed and overly generalized response to the above post.

I think it's only fair to warn you that I'm even now preparing a beach invasion (assuming you have a beach) faster than you can say Favremighthavegrayhairandabadhipbuthe'sstilltakingtheVikingstotheSuperBowl.

I shall then lobby for a Starbuck's at every one of your cricket stadiums (muddy field?) and a minimum of 3 of our lovely coffee houses per city block.  You'll soon be swimming in Mocha Frappucino's !

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As far as I'm concerned the more fighting the better the sport. North American sports seem to have a lot more and even allow the in their rules.

 

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"I shall then lobby for a Starbuck's at every one of your cricket stadiums (muddy field?) and a minimum of 3 of our lovely coffee houses per city block.  You'll soon be swimming in Mocha Frappucino's !"

I'm afraid that I will have to stop you due to the horror this segment of your plan brings. Switch to the far superior Tim Hortons, and you will be permitted to continue. I will not stand idly by and watch you help them destroy coffee.

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Tapey wrote:

I have one question for everyone that lives in North America...... why are all the major sports in your country so crappy and lame? But more importantly don't you get bored playing by yourselves? No one else plays your sports really. 

 

Lets look at some examples shall we

 

Lets start with baseball.

Has there ever been a more boring sport? Hit ball once and then run then you are done. The repeat for however nuimber of unnings there are...... yay. It just doesn't have the skill that is needed from cricket. It doesn't have anything that makes it worth watching imo.

 

Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

 

When will you Americans join the rest of the world? You cannot resist the trio of Cricket/soccer/rugby forever. Why do you persist with such lame sports. Don't you get tired of always playing yourselves as no one else plays your sports?

 

But most importantly why the hell do you have something called the WORLD SERIES  in baseball when only two countries take part? Are you confused or something? Says alot about the mentality over there

 

 

 

 

 

 

I demand that you state your country of origin so that I might mount an equally misinformed and overly generalized response to the above post.

I think it's only fair to warn you that I'm even now preparing a beach invasion (assuming you have a beach) faster than you can say Favremighthavegrayhairandabadhipbuthe'sstilltakingtheVikingstotheSuperBowl.

I shall then lobby for a Starbuck's at every one of your cricket stadiums (muddy field?) and a minimum of 3 of our lovely coffee houses per city block.  You'll soon be swimming in Mocha Frappucino's !

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There is only one nation in the world apart

 

from Australia whose citizens would be delightfully arrogant enough to whack into baseball and american football in the way Tapey is so cheerfully doing on a site like this one.

That nation can't be New Zealand because kiwis are too nice and besides, they'd still be busy milking their cows at this time of day. Nor could it be England as most the poms have immigrated to Western Australia where they

devote their time to complaining about the flies. There's a degree of confidence in these posts that suggest the OP's country of origin can actually play cricket. That rules out the west indies. India? No - the accent is all wrong.

And if Tapey was from Pakistan there'd be long breaks of kneeling towards mecca to contend with that would rule out this sort of online conversation. Not only that, Tapey clearly has opinions that are not sanctioned by the

local imam so it can't be pakistan. Nor do any of the cricket playing nations of asia play rugby in a meaningful way - and tapey loves his rugby.

Tapey, therefore, is a SAFA. And if my deductions are correct, I must point out that his nation's rugby team owes a great deal to the tactics of American footballers who generally speaking, prefer to play the man, not the ball. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"I shall then lobby for a Starbuck's at every one of your cricket stadiums (muddy field?) and a minimum of 3 of our lovely coffee houses per city block.  You'll soon be swimming in Mocha Frappucino's !" I'm afraid that I will have to stop you due to the horror this segment of your plan brings. Switch to the far superior Tim Hortons, and you will be permitted to continue. I will not stand idly by and watch you help them destroy coffee.

I think you might have lost track of our purpose here...  Our continent has been disparaged.  We (The CFL, Blue Jays and a shared love of * Nickelback, alone demand your loyalty on this) must launch an appropriate response.   

While the weapons of warfare needed for such a response remain unclear at this time, one thing is clear...

They don't get the good coffee ! 

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Well denying them the good

Well denying them the good stuff is one thing, but starbucks is a plague on humanity. It is the single largest spreader of the "valley girl" accent. They try to adopt French in their menu, but they fail hard. Twice: Once for even trying, and once for fucking it up. They don't even have real coffee on the menu, and they charge an arm and a leg for the swill they do have.
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Well denying them the good stuff is one thing, but starbucks is a plague on humanity. It is the single largest spreader of the "valley girl" accent. They try to adopt French in their menu, but they fail hard. Twice: Once for even trying, and once for fucking it up. They don't even have real coffee on the menu, and they charge an arm and a leg for the swill they do have. Starbucks must die. Only religion is more evil.

 

 

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shit, the only coffe worth anything is turkish coffee, and by that i don't necessarily mean the coffee's country of origin, but rather the fact that it's unfiltered.  here's my recipe:

fill a tin coffeepot with water and dump about a quarter can of the stoutest, darkest coffee you can buy.  no fruity kenyan shit please.  i've found several brands here in slovakia that work well, my favorites being lavazza espresso (but it's pricey), popradska extra special (a slovak brand which, like lavazza, is all arabica), or the french roast from marks and spenser.

put it on the stove, light the gas and crank the flame up to full blast (if you have an electric stove i'm really, really sorry).

go read the paper until you hear the sizzle of the flame being extinguished as the coffee boils over.  yes, it makes a bit of a mess, but coffee can only reach full power if it's allowed to boil over.

drink up, turn on, hit the roof.  don't forget, don't tip the cup up too far, although some of the old timers around here take their spoon and eat the grounds afterward.

oh, leave yourself time to hit the pot about 20 minutes after you finish.  seriously.

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Tapey wrote:I have one

Tapey wrote:

I have one question for everyone that lives in North America...... why are all the major sports in your country so crappy and lame? But more importantly don't you get bored playing by yourselves? No one else plays your sports really. 

 

Lets look at some examples shall we

 

Lets start with baseball.

Has there ever been a more boring sport? Hit ball once and then run then you are done. The repeat for however nuimber of unnings there are...... yay. It just doesn't have the skill that is needed from cricket. It doesn't have anything that makes it worth watching imo.

 

Now American football

As best I can tell its just Rugby with all the rules broken made for wimps. Cumon all that protective gear? havent you ever watched australian football? I may hate the australians but dam they got that sport right. It could of been great but they killed it. Get out of that protective gear and play a real sport.

 

When will you Americans join the rest of the world? You cannot resist the trio of Cricket/soccer/rugby forever. Why do you persist with such lame sports. Don't you get tired of always playing yourselves as no one else plays your sports?

 

But most importantly why the hell do you have something called the WORLD SERIES  in baseball when only two countries take part? Are you confused or something? Says alot about the mentality over there

 

 

 

 

 

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shit, the only coffe worth anything is turkish coffee, and by that i don't necessarily mean the coffee's country of origin, but rather the fact that it's unfiltered.  here's my recipe:

fill a tin coffeepot with water and dump about a quarter can of the stoutest, darkest coffee you can buy.  no fruity kenyan shit please.  i've found several brands here in slovakia that work well, my favorites being lavazza espresso (but it's pricey), popradska extra special (a slovak brand which, like lavazza, is all arabica), or the french roast from marks and spenser.

put it on the stove, light the gas and crank the flame up to full blast (if you have an electric stove i'm really, really sorry).

go read the paper until you hear the sizzle of the flame being extinguished as the coffee boils over.  yes, it makes a bit of a mess, but coffee can only reach full power if it's allowed to boil over.

drink up, turn on, hit the roof.  don't forget, don't tip the cup up too far, although some of the old timers around here take their spoon and eat the grounds afterward.

oh, leave yourself time to hit the pot about 20 minutes after you finish.  seriously.

 

I like my slow-drip though stainless steel filter, thanks.

 

If I wanted grounds and sludge I would just drink pressed coffee.

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iwbiek wrote:

shit, the only coffe worth anything is turkish coffee, and by that i don't necessarily mean the coffee's country of origin, but rather the fact that it's unfiltered.  here's my recipe:

fill a tin coffeepot with water and dump about a quarter can of the stoutest, darkest coffee you can buy.  no fruity kenyan shit please.  i've found several brands here in slovakia that work well, my favorites being lavazza espresso (but it's pricey), popradska extra special (a slovak brand which, like lavazza, is all arabica), or the french roast from marks and spenser.

put it on the stove, light the gas and crank the flame up to full blast (if you have an electric stove i'm really, really sorry).

go read the paper until you hear the sizzle of the flame being extinguished as the coffee boils over.  yes, it makes a bit of a mess, but coffee can only reach full power if it's allowed to boil over.

drink up, turn on, hit the roof.  don't forget, don't tip the cup up too far, although some of the old timers around here take their spoon and eat the grounds afterward.

oh, leave yourself time to hit the pot about 20 minutes after you finish.  seriously.

 

I like my slow-drip though stainless steel filter, thanks.

 

If I wanted grounds and sludge I would just drink pressed coffee.

that's the common misconception.  if it's boiled right, the grounds settle to the bottom.  as long as you don't tip your cup, i doubt you'll get even a single ground.  besides, filters remove most of the oils which make coffee really taste like coffee.

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Unfortunately, I generally don't have time to make coffee. I drink it too quick. Sticking out tongue

I also haven't even seen a gas stove since 1996. > >

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Unfortunately, I generally don't have time to make coffee. I drink it too quick. Sticking out tongue I also haven't even seen a gas stove since 1996. > >

 

I've seen one once a long time ago. I was like 7 I think. Most ones I see now are induction.

 

I see some old electric stoves too, you know ones with the coils that glow red? 

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I have one of those.

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gas stoves are by far the most common here in slovakia, with brand spankin' new self-lighting models being turned out every year.  i guess it must be the relatively cheap russian gas we get here.

i do a lot of cooking and i prefer gas to anything (burners that is--gas ovens suck and very few people here use them anymore).  gas burners are usually cheaper to use (though more expensive to buy) and more efficient.  i've found they heat more evenly, with the added bonus that there is no waiting for the burners to heat up or cool down.  plus, i can judge the amount of heat going to the food much more easily by looking at the size of the flame rather than the numbers on the knobs of electric stoves.  my father back in the states has the old coil style, and my mother has inductive.  i hate using them when i go home for a visit. 

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The only type I've not had much experience with is induction. I've used one on a couple occasions, but not enough to judge it well. Between gas and coil, the gas is generally much better, I agree. Coil is really only useful for hot knives/blades/etc. If you don't know what those are, never mind. Sticking out tongue
I don't like gas as much for broiling or baking though. Adds a hint of flavour I don't care for, and it doesn't seem to work as evenly as electric ones.

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My apologies for sidetracking this delightful post with the entirely unrelated topic of coffee. 

Now back to the irregularly scheduled and somewhat misinformed Anti-North American sports rant.

Baseball is awesome.

Football is awesome..

BASEBALL

Neither cricket nor rugby have the tension or excitement of sliding into home plate w/ 50,000 screaming fans.

FOOTBALL

You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. 

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BASKETBALL

To watch Michael Jordan play live and in his prime was not just jaw-dropping but it was an opportunity to witness one of the greatest athletes that have ever lived.

Now back to topic !

 

 

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I don't like gas as much for broiling or baking though. Adds a hint of flavour I don't care for, and it doesn't seem to work as evenly as electric ones.

oh, absolutely.  that's why i clarified i'm talking about a gas stovetop.  gas ovens are awful and even in slovakia most stoves now are a hybrid of gas burners and an electric oven.  i lived for two years in apartments with old gas ovens and i gave up baking after one try.  luckily, i don't like to bake anyway.  i don't care for desserts and the only bread i make is cornbread, which is just as good (if not better) fried in a skillet.

 

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I don't like gas as much for broiling or baking though. Adds a hint of flavour I don't care for, and it doesn't seem to work as evenly as electric ones.

oh, absolutely.  that's why i clarified i'm talking about a gas stovetop.  gas ovens are awful and even in slovakia most stoves now are a hybrid of gas burners and an electric oven.  i lived for two years in apartments with old gas ovens and i gave up baking after one try.  luckily, i don't like to bake anyway.  i don't care for desserts and the only bread i make is cornbread, which is just as good (if not better) fried in a skillet.

 

 

What about lasagnia? Pasta bakes? Potatoes? Poultry?

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I don't like gas as much for broiling or baking though. Adds a hint of flavour I don't care for, and it doesn't seem to work as evenly as electric ones.

oh, absolutely.  that's why i clarified i'm talking about a gas stovetop.  gas ovens are awful and even in slovakia most stoves now are a hybrid of gas burners and an electric oven.  i lived for two years in apartments with old gas ovens and i gave up baking after one try.  luckily, i don't like to bake anyway.  i don't care for desserts and the only bread i make is cornbread, which is just as good (if not better) fried in a skillet.

 

 

What about lasagnia? Pasta bakes? Potatoes? Poultry?

nah.  i'm not as big on italian food as i was when i was a teenager and first started cooking.  if i want something exotic, i bring out the wok and do some chow mein or fried rice, hunanese style (that means plenty of oil and hot peppers with the preferred meat being pork).  other than that, i'm usually true to my appalachian roots, which means a cast iron skillet and plenty of bacon grease.  chicken and potatoes both get fried with me, but i often pop both in the oven under the broiler for a few minutes after they're cooked enough--gives an extra touch of golden crispiness to everything.  for pot roasts, soup beans, stews, etc., i usually use an electric slow cooker.  i have been known to do baked beans in a dutch oven, occasionally.

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