Star reacts to thought of Japanese spectator

Dear Editor,
On 15 February 2009 I was thinking about the “bright star” and intuitively I aimed my cell phone camera toward the sun and took several photos one minute apart. Later, looking at the photos I saw a round object near the sun – either to the right, left, or above the sun. I was puzzled as to how the object could have moved so quickly.

Also, I took a photo of the sun as I stood in front of the Boston Museum in Nagoya. I could see a tiny point in the photo, near the window of a building a few meters away from me.  I said in my mind, “If you are a UFO, will you show yourself bigger?” In the next photos the object could be seen more clearly, showing itself in a different position in each shot.  (The object was confirmed to be a UFO but not the Star.) (Editor’s note: The UFOs are beginning to respond to thought requests from those unafraid and welcoming their presence.)

Next, I decided to take a photo of a sunset scene over the Kiso River in Gifu, believing the bright star would definitely appear near a beautiful sunset. I aimed my cell phone camera towards it. On the display screen I could see a tiny object moving. I made various requests in my mind: “You are too small to see. Will you make yourself more visible? Please come closer to me. Please go closer to Inuyama Castle”, etc. Each time, the object responded to my thought. I didn’t see it with my naked eye, but it showed on the camera. I am convinced that the bright star exists and our thoughts really do materialize.  [See photo in the March issue of Share International]

I told this story to another member of the group, Miyako Hirai. She also talked to the object when she took a photo of the sun, saying: “Please make yourself bigger” and the object showed itself much bigger.
M.S., Inuyama-shi, Gifu, Japan.

(Benjamin Creme’s Master confirms that it was the Star, and it was responding to her thought requests.)

Japan: Two photographs of the sunset, taken three minutes apart at 5.20pm on 15 February 2009 in Inuyama-shi by M.S. The star can be seen in two different positions.

Japan: Please, see note on left and the letter above.

Don't dodge the point.

Do you agree that some of the images on the website you linked to are camera artifacts?

Do you acknowledge that Benjamin Creme 'verified' some of these camera artifact images as examples of 'the star'?

Do you acknowledge that this false 'verification' indicates that Creme is full of shit? If he truly had access to esoteric knowledge, then he wouldn't be claiming that these images are anything more than camera artifacts.

As for videos, I did not say *all* the images were camera artifacts. Some were clearly Venus. Others airplane lights. There are lots of different shiny things you can catch on video that are not magic stars.

The one video I saw was out of focus and did not provide any context. It was just a bright rectangle. It could have been anything. When your camera is out of focus and low resolution, just about any light will show up as a glowing shape of some sort.

Credulous people will say, "I just *know* that vague glowing blob on my camera is the magic star Benjamin Creme told me about." This is nothing more than humans believing dumb shit, which happens everyday.

Just for the record, video camera optics display exactly the same sort of effects.

 

Kevin R Brown wrote:

Hey, Luminon? If it's a real celestial body, what are it's coordinates on the WorldWide Telescope, so that we can take a closer look see?

It's not a celestial body, it's an unidentified flying object purposedly being showed around the Earth to all people to see. Thus, when it's shining brightly on one place, for other places it's hidden behind horizon.

 

BobSpence1 wrote:

Just for the record, video camera optics display exactly the same sort of effects.

Dammit! Beat me to it. It might be better to call them lens artifacts. Maybe that would get the point across better?

On 12 December 2008 Share International distributed a news release announcing that in the very near future a large, bright star will appear in the sky visible throughout the world, night and day. Around a week later Maitreya will give His first interview on a major US television programme. Since early January 2009, sightings of the star have been reported from all over the world and more and more sightings are being sent to us daily.

I encouraged you to watch the sky for things to come. Though I wasn't sure about it at all, the promise was indeed fulfilled.

Holey shit, DDA, that is not a mystical figure. We mysticize everything, but M. is a practical man, not a mystic, and he's being seen by thousands of people, and also photographed many times. He met many people, including members of our group, other groups around, and even some people not directly related to our work. Exactly the same reports are coming from every corner of the world, and they are similar to how he appeared to us. He's indeed a bit excentric, but he has a great sense of humour and wisdom, and people can, with some practice, recognize him. He's on every Creme's lecture, for example. And no, he will not save us without our will or effort, he clearly says that we will have to do all the work, he's a teacher, (as is written in his passport) so he can inspire us how to do it, if we ask.
Don't be so eager with dividing people on theists and nontheists, my opinion is based on many observations from reliable sources. There is much more evidence for Maitreya's existence than against it.

HisWillness wrote:

 Are you telling me that doesn't look like a kite to you? A kite with lights on it? It even has that piece of fabric in the middle connecting to the string.

Actually, that's a pretty cool idea -- I think I'm going to make one of those kites.

No, it doesn't look like a kite to me. 

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I can report no one in our class, from January to present has viewed any "strange new stars". Let alone ones with +6 apparent magnitude or better.

If the star was indeed visible "during the day" as Luminon claimed

I'll wait for the interview, thanks.

So il be waiting for that news then? But untill I see it or it is common knowledge i think i will be treating it as false, you wouldn't want me beliving without evidance would you? with all the problems with photos and videos I really can't trust them. I have to admit would be cool if it were true though. Btw personal stories are risky if they can be shown as false and I get the feeling this can be if indeed it is false. Im hoping you just got confused or you are right but other than that....

As for appearing color shifts with flickering, twinkling, blinking, winking, or otherwise "dips" in light, that is normal. It is simply a consequence of viewing celestial bodies through our atmosphere. This isn't even to mention the clouds of gas, dust, and other debris that may be crossing the incredibly long path the light from any star has to reach us.

Luminon, dude, please go ahead and give your head a shake. This is batty fucking bullshit. SETI is still listening on an extremely wide range of frequencies and the void remains quite, well, void.

Creme is an asshole who is defrauding you.

 A non-mystical person who can supposedly appear and disappear at will,

"magnetizing" water so that it will provide healing benefits?

  As for the passport, why does Creme choose to show a photograph of a handprint on a mirror instead?

If you have the evidence and you weren't afraid of being labeled a devotee of a fictional man claimed by his prophet to be the successor to every major religious figure in history, you would show that evidence rather than make these pronouncements about a new star in the heavens.

Luminon, you're a believer in supernatural phenomena and you've given me all the evidence I need to prove that you believe that those phenomena are centralized in a single person.  You've more than earned your theist tag, and if you had anything like a pair of balls you'd admit it and ask for one.  

As for the feared theist badge, if I will not manage to avoid it, I can at least hope that it will be removed if my story will come true. I've done what I could, now the future can show the result. As for the "supernatural phenomena", I understand it as a form of advanced technology.

Is that like waiting to lose your virginity without dating?

Hambydammit wrote:

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As for the feared theist badge, if I will not manage to avoid it, I can at least hope that it will be removed if my story will come true. I've done what I could, now the future can show the result. As for the "supernatural phenomena", I understand it as a form of advanced technology.

Sounds like a fair trade to me.  I've been waiting for you to admit to theism for months, and I agree with Damn Dirty Ape.  This can ONLY be described as believing in a mythical messiah-like figure.  That, my friend, is theism.

Oh, and if this stuff ever makes the science journals, I'll remove your theist badge.

I did NOT agree with it, I spoke only hypothetically, as it should be obvious from my sentence. And there was said nothing about science journals. You are too quick for any deal.  So you've got that theist badge shit done after all, good work man. You can have a drink on it. I will never agree with that badge, but maybe I'll stop giving a shit about that.

 

Kevin R Brown wrote:

What a crock of shit. More compassionate than, say, Norman Borlaug? Who spent most of his life developing new strains of drought-resistant, high-yield crops to feed the impoverished?

It's hard to compare, the intention, but Creme could be more effective. The main problem behind the famine isn't the drought, but an extremely unfair distribution of resources and money in the world. This is a great Creme's topic, he speaks about the necessity to share the resources. Without sharing, there is no justice, without justice there is no peace, and without peace, there is no future.
But I get your point, you don't have to mention here every such a man - I meant it as far as I know.

Kevin R Brown wrote:

Here's who Benjamin Creme actually is: the founder and editor of Share magazine, a tabloid, who claims to make 'no money' from his claims, yet doesn't exactly give away his books, lecture series's, magazines, etc, and somehow has the dough to place ads everywhere letting people know that the second coming is on it's way. If he's so gravely concerned about the impoverished, where are his big contributions to the poor? Why does he spend much more time peddling his crap than taking action to quell hunger or disease?

You believe in an effectivity of helping the poor with all your property and becoming poor in the process? An individual can not solve the global crises. The best we can do is to alert a large part of humanity to take the action to convince our governments to start global sharing. Once started, it will seem like a natural thing to do, and it will open the way to a peaceful solution of all our problems. Of course we can support financially the charitative organizations all the time, like I do. Creme turned a lot of people's attention to charity and selfless service. By founding and supporting this global grassroots movement, he did more good indirectly than he could do directly.

Kevin R Brown wrote:

  He's a charlatan and, as previously noted, a fraud. Since the 1970s he's been saying that, "Oh, now Maitreya is going to appear...", and then simply shrugging his shoulders and offering some weak sauce excuse when the second coming he promised doesn't occur.

You think that there can be a set date for that? The answer is, it is as soon as we make it. It could be in 1982 and it could be in a week, this has nothing to do with time. It's about the response of humanity, how much do we care about other people and the nature. The event is prepared and there are 'windows of opportunity', but the attitude of humanity (and things like response in media) decides if the particular 'window of opportunity' is usable or not. This is why these messages, signs and words like "very soon" are there, they show us that all this is practically already happening, everything is only waiting for us. There have been some opportunities which were really promising, but didn't go on just for a little bit.

DamnDirtyApe wrote:

Luminon, you're a believer in supernatural phenomena and you've given me all the evidence I need to prove that you believe that those phenomena are centralized in a single person.  You've more than earned your theist tag, and if you had anything like a pair of balls you'd admit it and ask for one.  

Now I understand more how do you mean it. Centralized in one person? How did you come to that nonsense? Technically, there's at least 62 more individuals like Maitreya, and that power is inherently present within every human being. No-one of them needs our devotion, except of some two-thirds of global population caught in poverty. Maitreya himself clearly says "I have not come to make followers. If you follow me, you will lose me." That supposedly supernatural power is within all of us and developing ourselves to manifest it outwardly is the evolutionary path which everyone is on. We're all brothers and sisters in that effort, we're equally worthy because of that.

I am not even going to bother looking at your links. If there was something new in the sky that was visible to the naked eye, google news would be all over it like white on rice. That not having happened, I assume that this is a bunch of bunk.

 

Caveat: I did not bother to actually check google news before posting. There are few things that could be new in the sky since I checked google news yesterday afternoon and of those that could be naked eye visible, they all pretty much mean that we have a few hours before the whole earth is dead.

 

Basically, if you are alive to read this, you are automatically wrong. Deal with it dude.

 

 That Creme guy reminds me of another guy. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Hongzhi

Again, this seems to me as playing with words. There is no thing as natural, distinct from or opposed to "supernatural". There is spectrum of vibratory quality of matter, which is all natural. But in our current state (which will improve) we can only see and touch a small part of that spectrum, which we call "natural". Everything else is for us either "supernatural" or a fairy-tale. But there is a small minority of people, who are able to perceive more of that natural spectrum of matter. This is also a natural thing, because a human being consists of several centres separated from each other by having a different "vibration". By conscious development of the whole being, the centres eventually get synchronized and connected together, which is an admirable achievement. The process of that potentially increases the individual's awareness of what was until that time unreachable - thus called "supernatural" from ignorance. I say potentially, because ESP is only one of many changes and it's highly dependent on other factors. There are other, more general features of an advanced person. I'm sorry if this is incomprehensible, but there are whole books about that and yet another books will have to be written, explaining this all in terms of our sciences. But this is a distant (non-priorital) future.

jcgadfly wrote:

1. If you don't think his claims chould be checked out by scientists, don't call them scientific claims.

At this stage, his claims can be checked rather by journalists, than by scientists. The priority is now the announcement of Maitreya's arrival and his plan of restoring the world. A scientific details (which can go to a great detail) are not a priority, though they must be fascinating. After the events described by Creme there will be enough of attention and public will a scientific research, but now we're in a relatively short period of preparation on the emergence. My concern is giving out the information to as many people as I can, so they will have it in their reach in case they would need it. It does not matter if they believe it or not. At the same time, I welcome a people's interest in global problems and solutions.

jcgadfly wrote:

2. Unfortunately, at present without force of arms there is no sharing. Has Creme said anything about how this sharing should come to pass or is he leaving that for Maitreya?

In 1988 Maitreya did give out a prediction of a total, worldwide stock market fall. A month after the Japan stock market fell much more than was considered possible, but it didn't spread thanks to an enormous protective actions of Japanese government and businessmen. The total collapse is what we still are waiting for, and the crisis which begun in autumn 2008 is said to be the beginning of it - the end of speculative economy. The global dissent and difference between virtual money and real goods is too great; "This is a bubble which is about to burst" as he said. By the way, the huge bailouts so popular today will reputedly only make everything worse, they only ensure the economic collapse. When everything is mutually owned, one instability makes it fall all at once.

The point is, that the worldwide collapse of stock markets will for the first time awaken the humanity as a whole to the grim reality of today. Profit and power will be no longer seen by governments as a priority. The priorities of governments will become a supply of adequate food, shelter, healthcare and education for everyone as a basic rights. These ideas had been spread worldwidely for many years. In case of such a collapse Maitreya will be able to act quickly and ensure that the fall will be least destructive and that we will quickly build a new, more just economic order, based on international sharing of excessive resources. A plan for a quick, initial humanitary help to the Third world will be also executed.

jcgadfly wrote:

3. If he claims he's making no money from his claims, shouldn't his books, etc. be free or sold cheaply enough for him to cover costs without making any profit (let alone a substantial one)?Why don't you think his actions should match his words?

I don't understand how do you mean it. The books are indeed sold (not very expensively, I noticed) which actually makes them more available than if there would be no profit for the salesmen from them. Some of them are also available online. And of course, if someone translates the books and publishes them locally, (as my parents does over the last years) then it's between the local salesmen and translators.
Creme seems to have just enough money for what he needs -  tireless travelling and lecturing. He doesn't have a time for luxury or greed, neither on his travels, nor till the end of his life. (Right now he should be in Edinburgh on a workshop. One family friend is going there, so I'm curious what will she report)

jcgadfly wrote:

  4. Then Creme should not call his guesses "predictions"

Isn't that only playing with words?

jcgadfly wrote:

5a. 62 people with this alleged power and they're all keeping it secret? Interesting.

Well, people in the most perfected stage of being human. Thus as Creme says, they're Masters similar to Maitreya, his disciples, having a similar control over the natural world as him. The information is that about 40 of them will eventually become externalized - publically seen, interviewed, employed as advisors, and so on. Maitreya will introduce these his disciples eventually to the world.

jcgadfly wrote:

5b. The supernatural can't come from natural means (otherwise it wouldn't be supernatural). So supernatural abilities can't evolve.

Again, this seems to me as playing with words. There is no thing as natural, distinct from or opposed to "supernatural". There is spectrum of vibratory quality of matter, which is all natural. But in our current state (which will improve) we can only see and touch a small part of that spectrum, which we call "natural". Everything else is for us either "supernatural" or a fairy-tale. But there is a small minority of people, who are able to perceive more of that natural spectrum of matter. This is also a natural thing, because a human being consists of several centres separated from each other by having a different "vibration". By conscious development of the whole being, the centres eventually get synchronized and connected together, which is an admirable achievement. The process of that potentially increases the individual's awareness of what was until that time unreachable - thus called "supernatural" from ignorance. I say potentially, because ESP is only one of many changes and it's highly dependent on other factors. There are other, more general features of an advanced person. I'm sorry if this is incomprehensible, but there are whole books about that and yet another books will have to be written, explaining this all in terms of our sciences. But this is a distant (non-priorital) future.

JillSwift wrote:

Just for you, Luminon:

Thanks. How many carats does it have?

 

 

Luminon wrote:

In 1988 Maitreya did give out a prediction of a total, worldwide stock market fall...

This is weak Luminon.