...And on the other other hand, I don't really see why one would consider YECs to be worse than people who think that beheading other people is a-okay because Allah sanctioned it.

Personally, I don't really give a shit if the martyrs who blow themselves up in markets happen to understand the process of evoluton or not.

Anony, I want you to go back to the first post in this thread. You know what it's missing?

ANY MENTION OF JEWS. AT ALL.

If you want to talk about THE EVIL JEWISH CONSPIRACY PLOT, fine. But make your own Goddamn thread. This one is for discussing the effects of raising kids under religious indoctrination.

Do not derail topics, thanks.

If ignorant hatred of non-Jews is to be posted why is it improper to give equal time to the religion which sponsors this hatred?

Because we'd like some topics to not simply devolve to your obsession with hating jews, unlike you this site is an equal opportunity offender.  Post your obsessive babble in one of the umpteen other threads you created on the issue. 

From the forum rules:

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Please do not derail threads more than strictly necessary and get back on topic ASAP unless it has pretty much been "running its course" at that point anyway.

The first mention of native american was an on topic reply to you. 

 

European invaders who drove out most of the Palestinians and stole the land of all of them whether driven out or not have no right in law or custom or even their own morality to any equality with the owners of the land. They are criminals. They stole the land. The owners want it back.

The owners have every right in law, custom and morality to use deadly force against the thieves.

Thieves have no rights at all.

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I guess you should sign the deed to your house over to the native americans, then.

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You then indulged the post, responded to it, and the discussion continued.  Additionally we don't know Kevin (the first person to bring it up) to be someone who attempts to interject his hatred of native americans into every topic even when it doesn't apply.  We do however see that sort of pattern with you. 

Yes I can explain.  Generally these actions are handled in private so as to avoid the offending member to feel embarrassed in public.  In fact a letter from the mods was in the process of being drafted throughout the day today in regards to your posts here.  I was prepared to send it to you privately and may still do so within the next 24 hours.  Our discussion about your posts actually started back on December 28th and since that point we have been carefully deliberating the most fair method of addressing the issue of having someone like you on our site.  You no doubt are well aware that your views are in the extreme minority, and that many of us are in strong disagreement with them.  However as freethinkers and free speech advocates we make every attempt to make this forum friendly to all types of people. 

Anyway, since our posts regarding site moderation are usually done in private, you're not likely to see the outcomes.  Should you be interested in seeing that even an atheist who posted here frequently is not above these rules (he often derailed threads) you can view this thread.  As you can see, sometimes we choose to make moderation action public so that people also have a semblance of what we ask for of our community members. 

Spike,

I'm just curious, had you read the follow-up posts before you posted? 

As I have asked, if these things are done in the name of the jewish people why is not the entire world antisemitic?

However, as we are both atheists neither of us have anything but condemnation of the rabid expression of the evil effects of religion on people. What but religion could inspire statements like these?

"There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

Yet so few in the West actually hear these things. So few know this religion ranks right up there with the Ayatollahs and their fatwas.

That and the following assume "without just cause" which the jewish nation of Israel provides in abundance.

Maybe most of the world is unaware of the actions of the jewish state. Do you have a problem with correcting that?

It appears your position is that Judaism is a religion that cannot be attacked by atheists. It shows nothing but primitive superstition to hold one particular stupid religion cannot be criticized by atheists.

If you are not saying that, what is it you are trying to say?

I see no reason to welcome, to be kind or nice or friendly to the architects of decades of atrocities against Palestinians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Syrians and others. Why do you? You can get more with a baseball bat than with a kind word.

As a matter of fact I have read dozens of CHRISTIANS (not Christianity, not the ISM) ARE FORCING THEIR RELIGION DOWN OUR THROATS and variations upon that theme. Can you tell me why that is acceptable?

Can you explain why it is acceptable to desribe Islam by the jew propaganda of the minority of Muslims in the Middle East? That does include all the Muslims in all the middle east. They are a minority of the Muslims in the world.

Were I to take the time I could cite literally dozens of posts whose content is exactly that and what you say is unacceptable if I do it. Why can others do it while I cannot? Is this Judaism truly a sacred religion to you? Are you a fake atheists?

I have taken the time to show there is near unanimous support among Jews for the actions taken on their behalf by the jewish nation of Israel. Pardon me but your definition of antisemitic fails to note whether or not the position is justified and supported by the events and facts.

You are making the argument that the only reason people hated Nazism is because they were prejudiced against Germans. Clearly the correct statement is the hatred of Nazism was justified by the actions of Nazis. Clearly the correct statement is the hatred of Judaism is because of the actions of the Jews. Keep in mind I have shown 90+% of the Jews are in support of the actions of Jews. I still have the flash file of the "kill them all" rally in NYC two weeks ago. Note I do not have to name who made the rally and who was to be killed.

What I have said about Jews in Israel and who support the actions of Israel and which were illustrated in what you folks determined to be hate speech even though Livni is proud of the pictures is fully documented. The truth cannot be hate. However the truth can be just cause for judging the Jews who did it and support it.

The photographic documentation of the massacre and the atrocities in Gaza against the rightful, lawful and moral owners of the land in Israel are what you call hate speech. How can this be? Rwanda with everything but the machetes. Auschwitz with everything but the gas chambers. Gaza with everything but the poison gas ... sorry burning phosphorus is poison gas.

The hubris which claims anyone who does not see the events through "jewish" blinders is antisemitic is the foundation of the Greek tragedies. The value of those tragedies is the audience knows the actions are wrong from the beginning.

I suggest you insult my integrity by saying I should behave as a politician. I do have some standards however low and few.

Not being constrained as is a politician to lie to all parties (one of my standards) I have the freedom to describe the world as it is. I am not constrained to lie about the world. There is no such thing as an ISM separate from the ISTS. No ISTS no ISM. There was no communism before there were communists. There is no communism without communists. There is no Catholicism without Catholics. There is no Judaism without Jews.

Mass extermination and genocide IS Judaism. It runs through the religion. It is the centerpiece of the Torah. The Torah is the law for Judaism. The Torah is the foundation of Judaism.

Judges is a laundry list of atrocities, exterminations, treachery, genocide and crimes to numerous to mention. That IS Judaism and proud of it. That is the religious foundation for the actions of the jewish state. This is the basis for jewish support for the actions of the jewish state.

And ISM cannot be expressed without the ISTS. The ISTS are the ISM. This stuff is so old Socrates talked about it. There are no shadows without the shadow casters.

So again I ask you who complained about the documentation of what Livni is proud of? How can her pride be hate speech? Why would you listen to such nonsense? Livni sleeps well as Israel has acted in accordance with the Torah.

I am not in the business of solving the problems of the middle east NOR is this website a forum for discussing such solutions.

Unless I missed something this website is about atheism and part of that is the evil religion works in the world. I discuss the very neglected evil of Judaism which is expressed by 90+% of the Jews in the world in their support of the JEWISH state of Israel. And I have pointed out that the jewish rednecks are supported by some 60 million redneck christian zionists. That is four times more than all the Jews in the world even if one is stupid enough to count atheists as Jews. Even the Nazis were zionists.

Speaking of Nazis, just today I read in Haaretz of an international organization meeting in the middle east which issued a finding that the Gaza war had cemented the equation of Israel with the Nazis. http://www.giwersworld.org/antisem/nazi-israel/index.html

The organization met in Israel.

It was the World Zionist Organization.

Who are you to argue?

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PS Any idea when you moderators are going to get your act together and post the official "letter" regarding my posts?

Let's say, we have an old woman somewhere in northern Russia, living there all her life. She is of Jewish origin. One day, she hears someone singing Jewish songs behind her doors. She opens them, and there is a group of people singing this, a melodies of her ancestors. They tell her about the origin, traditions, the beautiful possibility of return into the Promised land of Jews, the land of Israel. They practically brainwash the poor woman, so she packs her stuff and moves her old bones across the world into one of Israeli settlements. These people searches and convinces Jews all around the world to emmigrate to Israel. They need a people to take the land, to take the land from Palestinians, naturally. The Palestinians doesn't want to let their land be taken from them (it belongs to them officially since king Hussein gave it to them) so they're quick to grab their guns and people gets hurt. But the Israelis have bigger guns, much bigger and hundred times more of Palestinians gets hurt. So, the innocent settlers are basically used as a meat shields to keep the emotions hot and the war going. Well, this is some deep shit.

On some level... i thought it went well with the video, dont you?