Just answer this for me:

Did you have your child by artificial insemination? 

I only ask because I'm looking at your pictures and it is just inconceivable to me that some guy could look at your naked body and get an erection.

You're terrible, Jill.

This is why I love you so much.

And the mere thought makes me dry heave.

Which team are you on, anyway?  Are you a pretend theist?

NO. I will NOT have sex with you.

But you're the one who said that I was the God of Cock.

Hey!  Get back on your team!

p.s.  Small Johnson might take an extra few minutes to respond, his ip addys are blocked, but his account isn't banned... yet. (I figure we need the lulz)

You'd never make it you'd blow on the rim.

Alright.  How rediculous can this get. 

Just for the record, you can't be a theist or follower of Christ.  I dont' know if that's who you were representing or not, I'm assuming it was.

"First and foremost put on love".  I guess you forgot that part.

You also not only fail to reflect Christ in yourself, you also fail to realize that it's a privelage to be on a site such as this.  To be able to talk to people who don't believe in God and yet are willing to listen to you.

Not all of them are on here to make you look like an idiot.  You do a good job on your own.

From what I've seen on this forum, you've efficiently presented yourself as a hypocrite and a fraud.

Why are you here?

You should be here to find common ground with non-believers so as to either help them see why you are following what you are, or rethink your grounds.

Do you really expect people to listen to you if they don't respect you?  It's possible you're a dispensationalist.  Please reconsider your approach to God.

While I understand you have a specific standard that you believe Christians should upholdm that doesn't mean they do. 

Is George Bush a Christian?  He led a war into a country based on dishonest arguments.  Are the pastors who molest children Christian?  Is the abortion clinic bomber a Christian?  Are the Christians who send us hate mail threatening our lives Christian?

The only thing one Christian must have in common with another is belief in Jesus as the Christ (or the teachings of the apostles).  Christians sometimes like to represent the idea that becoming a Christian is a catch-all to poor behavior and it's far from that.  I think if anything it promotes poor behavior, being that it offers a get out of jail free card for simply accepting Jesus who died for your sins.  As a non-believer I don't have a Jesus to suffer for my sins, I choose to suffer for any "sins" here on Earth all by myself.  Since I am held accountable in this life rather than preparing for an afterlife in which someone has already wiped my slate clean, I feel I am a better person as a result. 

If you actually do in fact believe that bad Christians aren't Christians, maybe you'll respect the words of C.S. Lewis on this matter who said...

"The name Christians was first given at Antioch (Acts 11:26) to 'the disciples', to those who accepted the teaching of the apostles. There is no question of its being restricted to those who profited by that teaching as much as they should have. There is no question of its being extended to those who in some refined, spiritual, inward fashion were 'far closer to the spirit of Christ' than the less satisfactory of the disciples. The point is not a theological or moral one. It is only a question of using words so that we can all understand what is being said. When a man who accepts the Christian doctrine lives unworthily of it, it is much clearer to say he is a bad Christian than to say he is not a Christian."

To Mr. "Sapient",

Did you know that with a quick Google search, anybody can find out where you live (or at least used to live), what your mortgage/taxes/insurance is, and what your real name is?

Does that disturb you?

Veiled threats now... what a douche.

*emphasis added* What sins? Answer me that. Spell out what specific sins Brian is guilty of, or I am guilty of for that matter. What sins?

When I look around the world, when I look deep in my heart (metaphorically speaking) I see that true sin is being a judgemental prick like you are being by making yourself the judge of who get's to go to hell and who get's to go to heaven.

Now imagine for a second that my "spiritual compass" is better calibrated than yours. I may not see God in the same way you do, but maybe I "get" God's message better than you even so.

Well, that means you are going to hell for being a judgemental prick, and skeptics, atheists, agnostics, humanists and the like, are going to heaven for humbly accepting that they can only know that which humans can percieve, and for not pressuming to know the "true purpose" of the universe, or the "mind of God".

Or otherwise, explain to me, excactly how I have sinned, and you have not. And remember, it has to allign with my understanding of what is sinful. If my "spiritual compass" is not convinced then you are basically betting your afterlife on me being wrong and you being right.

Do you really know me well enough to decide that my understanding of God is not more correct than yours?

(as an aside, yes guys, I know this is just Pascal's wager, and it's been answered a thousand times allready, but I'd still like to adress it my own way. It's not the illogical proparties of the Pascal's wager argument that gets to me... It's the unvaranted smugness)

Me too.  I work a full time job, remember?

I would imagine a guy like you is used to hearing, it's not the size that matters.

Probably more.

Richard Dawkins doesn't currently have a job.  Hitchens gets paid by Vanity Fair to write.  Harris is still in school and is not employed.  And again it's not the size of our impact that matters, it's trying that's important.  

Duh.

You're projecting. 

P.S. I missed you. 

So you would have to object to churchs asking for money also, correct? They must get millions though, but that's ok right?

And what about the 1000's of other blogs and web sites that have that donation icon on their home page?

You're beginning to look like a childish fool.

Actually, I never said that.

I'm saying that Brian "Sapient" is a pathetic loser and nobody is fooled by him pretending that he's a martyr for atheism and that he chooses to live the way he does because he has no other option.

I do not think Harris or Dawkins meant to imply that we ought to move into the basement of our girlfriend's mother and impregnate our girlfriend, and then instead of supporting our illegitimate children... continually run some website that loses money every year. 

I do not think Harris or Dawkins meant to imply that we ought to ask children to post a Youtube video of themselves denying the existence of God... and doing so by setting up ads on children's websites.

I do not think Harris or Dawkins meant to imply that we ought to spend our time 24/7 mooching off of other people and not actually getting a job.

I think if one were to ask Mr. Harris and Mr. Dawkins for advice, they would say quite the opposite. 

You're not the average person.  You are, shall we say, a minion of Brian's-- probably no better off than he is.

How is a church asking for tithes and offerings different from the guy panhandling on the street?

Churches claim to have a divine command behind them. Granted, that command was written by men so that they could have a source of income. After all, why would their all-powerful God need money?

The actions themselves are identical.

It always comes down to the emotions.

A theist of any stripe is a theist because it's an emotional response to the world, the specific response shaped by local culture. It's not a simple response, instead being a near self-perpetuating conglomeration of fear, hope, comfort, and a sense of transcendence.

These emotions do not respond to reason. They conflict with reason, in fact, and it is human nature to go with the emotional over the rational. Most of the time this works well enough. It sometimes just gets in the way.

This silly tirade of GoR's is just an extension of that same emotional response. Being unable to support his faith through reason, he reverts entirely to the emotional. By labeling every atheist here, and Brian (who he assumes is our "leader&quot especially, as losers he reduces the impact we have on his faith by way of reducing our character. It's not rational, obviously. If he were really concerned about "losers" wasting time and money on web forums over their families and other responsibilities he'd still be busy going after UFO sites concerned with cow molestation, or going after Moon Landing Hoax sites, etc.

It shows in his timing. It wasn't until he felt cornered that he switched his tack.

He'll eventually leave the board, doing his very best to believe he was victorious, having "shown those atheist scum a thing or two".

The problem, of course, is that we humans are also, thought o a lesser extent, rational creatures. There will always be that new nodule of doubt rolling around in the back of his mind. Every time he tries to defend his faith, it will be re-introduced. He'll realize that his faith really is nothing more than the emotional representation of something he wishes were true. That reason may never overcome his emotional needs, but it will still be there like a thorn in the middle of his mind.

I pity him.

1. Maybe you didn't hear me, I have a full time job, and it isn't this website.  I get an "actual paycheck" as you call it.

2. I've never lived in a basement.  My in home office was in the basement of my last house.  I did not have a child with the girl who lived there with me (my ex).

3. Dawkins receiving a pension is a job?  Harris getting paid to write is a job?  You realize I get donations to write, do video, do podcasts, and maintain websites?

If you're gonna hate, at least get the details straight.  Bring on the page views...

Thank you. Your jealousy of Brian is the cause of much mirth in my house.

There is an experiment you can do to test gods.  I did it when I was about nine years old.  Pick a god, any god, pray to it.  Sincerely ask it to appear and you will worship it forever.  Nothing will happen.  OK pick a devil, any devil.  Same experiment.  Same results.  Every single time.

Face it son - you want to be Brian so bad you can taste it. Tone down that penis envy and I might take you seriously.

But, thank you for admitting, at least, to be engaged in reducing character, rather than observing.

No thanks on the debate, your claim above that you proved anything about the existence of evidence for a god or gods shows that you'd just run about in circles and alter definitions to suit yourself. I really don't see the point.

Oh - and Dawkins certainly did support the recent campaign to put 'There probably is no God' ads on 800 buses in the UK, where they will obviously be visible to children (some people might also argue that the young woman he's supporting who started the campaign is also a 'child').

 Whew, I think I speak for most when I ask, what point are you trying to make. Did you proof read your comment? Maybe next time you should as you say your comment is a basic principle of logic, when in reality your statement made no sense whatsoever. Semantics, that's all, semantics and a bad semantic argument at that.

  One more thing. Do not assume we are stupid rock god we know inuendo when we see it and I'll bet you are a christian......