hy. i name kevin.

it look like u go 2 same englesh schul as me. wat year u gradueat?

Hello.

I'm not going to scream at you either. 

Excuse me? You're telling me atheists are the ones that preach? By the way, just so we don't get confused about the first amendment, you have a right to believe whatever you want, but I also have a right to tell you that you're wrong. What I don't have the right to do is to put my beliefs into law and trespass on other people's rights.

Are you referring to the controversial sign in Washington state? Do you even understand the issues involved in that event? If Christians have the right to put a Nativity scene then every belief system has a right to promote their beliefs. Tit-for-tat. Unfortunately, your righteous brethren decided to steal the sign instead of discussing the issue in a mature manner. Your plea here has no rational basis, just that the existence of a public entity promoting alternative beliefs disturbs you. Think about it.

I don't hate Christians. I hate the results of fundamentalist thinking.

For starters, you've lied to me.  Brainwashing is not something I take lightly as it screws with a person's mind and self awareness. 

Christians have a long history of excluding sectors of society from the mainstream.  Fortunately you are not allowed to randomly execute the people you don't like anymore just for kicks.  The most vociferous climate change deniers and warmongers I know are christian.  We all pay for your ignorant mistakes.  And then on the personal level, there are the christians who decide our kids shouldn't be friends when they find out I am an atheist.  Explaining this to my kid is not fun.  I could go on, but I'm bored.  Btw - I don't hate you.  I feel for and get highly irritated with christians, but I don't care enough to hate you.

Why do Christians take it personally? Certainly in the west atheists run mostly into Christians. But rest assured we don't pick on one deity or one religion but all fantastic naked assertions.

What humans are famous for in human history is making up stories and selling them as fact. You cannot honestly tell me that a being with no body knocked up a girl or that human flesh survived rigor mortis.

I am a bad speller myself, but judging your shorthand I wonder if you will even understand this.

Hy?

Hi, I'm an atheist and I'm not going to scream at you either (though I will however use proper punctuation in what I write - it's a matter of courtesy, you know).

I am delighted to see in your opening sentence an admission to the extent of the confusion you obviously suffer from (you "believe" in god but you "know" that I am going to your hell). Such an admission is the first step to fixing your problem, I wish you well in your endeavour. And of course it would be trite of me to point out that I am not obviously heading for your "hell", without naturally adding that it appears to be a concept based on childish fears and even more childish grammar - both things that I have long grown out of, as you can see.

Your accusation that I preach at you puzzles me. One thing about having the courage of one's convictions you will find is that the compunction to bellow them out dissipates remarkaby. Indeed such an approach to persuasion is best left to those who seemingly require the comfort of hearing themselves publicly orate on a subject to dispel those nagging doubts that they might, after all, be spouting rubbish. What they lack in logic they make up for in volume and repetition, you might say. There is such a difference between that and the honest communication of one's views without any agenda beyond establishing fact and truth - but then I know you have not been trained to make that distinction so I will desist from inviting you to realise that the same distinction, between preaching and communicating, is evident right here in this reply to you.

When you say that I think you are "wrong" to believe anything you want then I can only say that you are absolutely correct, at least if you are using the word "wrong" there to mean "incorrect". You are not however committing any moral trespass that I can see from your statement, but it would be churlish of me not to point out that such dedication to an irrational application of your intelligence has in the past tended to render other individuals like yourself more apt to commit just such atrocities against morality. Far better, I would suggest, is that you yourself develop a healthy aversion to blindly believing anything which defies logic. It will cause some initial discomfort as you utilise brain cells hitherto left flaccid from your religious adherence, but in the long run I think you will find - as with any form of exercise - the benefit will far exceed anything you think you are acquiring from your present attitude.

I heartily concur with your wish that we all behave more friendlily towards one another. What a novel idea, and what a pity that no religion has yet succeeded in engendering such behaviour, though all of which have an unfortunate record in promoting the opposite. As an atheist, reliant as I am on basing my moralism and behaviour on an informed analysis of - amongst other things - altruism, it is a philosophy that I long ago adopted too, albeit with the necessary exception reserved for those who presume to exercise unwarranted control on my body or mind.

So your plea that I should stop hating you is unnecessary. Such an emotion is not one you seem to warrant, at least not on the basis of what you reveal about yourself in your post. I will reserve of course the right to pity you, not in a superior and patronising manner, but in that of an empathetic person who is not blind to the plight you're in and the distance between where you are and your salvation from that plight. I reserve also (and most vociferously) the right to conclude that you are wrong (again, not in a moralistically judgmental way but in matters of fact).

Your final point, that you and others (I assume fellow christians?) did nothing to me, is not actually correct either. Individuals who are included in your "we" attempted to damage me at a vulnerable age. They attempted to stifle my intellect. They attempted to control my life in a manner so invidious that it bordered on abuse, and since then they have at regular intervals interjected themselves in a most unwelcome manner into my life, and never in a helpful way.

But I also owe you and the rest of you christians a form of debt. By having such silly beliefs as you hold, by persistently substituting assertion for deduction and so imperfectly attempting to hide the fact, by demonstrating in such an obvious manner the human inclination to find support in numbers but not in the application of intelligence, by all this and similar you helped this person - though still a child - to make thorough and accurate observations regarding human behaviour in its more ugly manifestation which have stood him well over the years.

I wish you every success in navigating the next logical step in your own personal development, though I understand completely that you have been trained to take its opposite. Good luck anyhow.

This was probably written by a guy who has one of those "Christian fish eating a Darwin fish" emblems on the back of his car... I find it funny how the religious can wake us up at 8:00am by pounding on our door to try to preach thier beliefs, yet cry like babies when we insult thier views with... *gasp* Logic!!!

        Make a propper introduction of yourself we always welcome new members and you can start a new OP.  What city do you hale from for example?

Holy run-on sentence, Batman!

I don't hate you because you're christian, I hate you because of your improper grammar - it makes my head hurt.

You're right.  You have the right to believe whatever nonsense you want.  And WE have the right to tell you that your beliefs are a load of bullshit.  It's called freedom of speech, asshole.  Deal with it.  And if our war on Christmas made you cry, how the FUCK do you think I felt when I was thrown out of my dance class for not being a Christian?

Ahh, first impressions.

You certainly do not!!!

I dont hate you, I dont hate any decent person.  I do however hate what your religion has done to the world and peoples minds, I do hate that your religion affects our governments, I do hate that your religion forces children to listen to terryfing stories and makes them believe they are true,  but i do not hate you as a person.   

Lets refer back.

In your 1 sentence here asking athiests to be kind to you you also support the belief that eternal damnation as punishment for our skeptisism of your religion is both ethical and just, how ironic of you.