If I remember, there are objections to such a cases of Kirlian's photography, based on a claim that the researchers used the same equipment shortly after. I mean, they photographed the leaf, cut a piece of it, they put it on the same place (where there was an imprinted moisture of the whole leaf ) and voila, there was also a remainder of the original leaf shape.
But I don't think that researchers would make such a stupid mistake. I certainly would wipe the surface by a towel between the experiments.

Furthermore, seeing the aura, as it is outlined by Kirlian's photography, is not the astral body at all. Astral body is way too distant from almost all contemporary technologic attempts to influence it. For now. Dude, you're skipping whole paradigm shifts. What you search for, is etheric body, or so-called vital body, which is physical, though finer than the solid material body. Astral body is said to be able to leave the body and travel around (this is where the legendary band Astral Projection has its name  ) but etheric is pretty dense compared to that, doesn't move anywhere, and dies with cellular death.

The etheric body is the most dense and most easily visible part of aura. It is, what people sees first, when they train to see the aura. I'm not sure if Kirlian's photography really displays it, but it outlines it's shape and size quite well. I know that, because I have the rather common ability to use this lowest part of aura for the touch, so I'm completely convinced about it's existence every day of my life. Anyone would be.
As far as I know, seeing the next, greater layer of aura, the mysterious "astral body" is very rare, and not really necessary for next 30 years at least. Our most bold technologic and scientific hopes should aspire to discover the etheric matter and etheric layer of our body. This promises almost unimaginable new technologic possibilities, because this kind of finer-than-solid matter has very exotic properties. I think this area of research should be purged of pseudoscientific label and researched by really interested people.

I blieve experiments were done with people standing behind a barrier just tall enough so they could not be seen from the other side, and people claiming to be able to 'see' auras failed miserably to be able to detect where the people were.

There is also a neurological disorder called Synesthesia, which causes the person to "see sounds" and "hear colors."  Basically, the wiring for processing sensory input is crossed up.  Actually, I think someone on the boards has it... maybe Jacob Cordingley, if memory serves?  Anyway, it's not particularly uncommon, and could very well explain some of the instances of people seeing auras.

The photo stuff is indeed total bupkus.  There's never been a controlled experiment in with a positive result, and it is easily duplicated with some fancy equipment, as described above.

 

Oh boy.  I know you know I'm not going to accept this, but I really am curious.  This is a new tinfoil hatter theory to me.  What, exactly, could seeing colors around objects do to revolutionize all aspects of our lives?  That's really saying a lot.

 

  .... "see sounds" and "hear colors." ~ Hamby ..... Yep, done that on LSD, the pure legal shit, yrs ago. I never did come completely down, as the blinders never came back. Thanks pure LSD, which I never did again. 

CAUTION, I do recommend a pure reasoned clinical LSD trip with caring sober knowledgeable friends, BUT, because you might think you can fly, and kill yourself, do it right or not at all .... I just lucked out, WOW .... the mind is chemical !!!  I am high 24 / 7 .... I am chemical !!! Wow LSD , thanks ....   

 

Thanks people, your replies are really helpful, although I put the topic in freethinking anonymous so I wouldn't get the replies that talk about the supernatural that Luminon posted, some parts of his posts have been usefull. So, thanks again.

Alzheimer's disease is such an example where biologists could use the knowledge of so-called "mysterious energies", which are not so mysterious for people like me, who can work with them.
Furthermore, the occurence of various nutcases worldwidely rapidly increases, and so scientists will get interested in studying a causes of their lunacy, which will be fascinating and will bring a technologic revolution.
 

Don't exaggerate. Please see the difference between superficial, and deep scientific understanding. This superficial knowledge is behavioristic, it says a lot about how it works, what it does, and how to use it in practice. The scientific understanding needs the phenomenon mathemathically described, and known into details, which are unnecessary for the amateurs. Scientific inquiry also can find a way how to employ these principles in form of solid, tangible technology, based on complicated mathemathics and rare materials. Amateurs can use only their body and maybe a few other simple tools to work, and so their knowledge is limited to them, but a scientific understanding can spread the new technologic standard worldwidely.

 

Again, don't exaggerate please. I certainly know something, because I live with some phenomena every day of my life, so I can try some experiments, but my possibilities are limited. Amateur's brain language doesn't speak in equations or chemical elements. I need someone else who does. Such a person will in the beginning inevitably know much less than I do, but by a scientific study will eventually know much more than me about the subject. It's unfortunate that scientists' interest is still minimal, but it's them who will really change the world and find the truths better than amateurs themselves could for, millenia of primitive shamanism.


I will certainly let you know, if you will be somewhere around, but this might take decades untill full acknowledgement. Until then, I will try to give a testimony about such things, gather facts, etc. For this research, the most basic thing is a human body and mind, this is why there always were less or more primitive people who spoke things about invisible world(s) around us. But they were only amateurs, and their intellectual mind was weak, this is why they remained primitive. The intellect is so powerful, that if someone manages to give it the needed direction, it will uncover and physically employ a basis of so-called "supernatural" stuff. This is how it should be done, it is, after all, a form of matter and technology based on it. Stuff like spiritism, mediumship or shamanism is a primitive, perverted relationship with of what we should be masters, not servants.

Btw, how do you mean it, magic or supernatural? Either something was observed, so it's natural, or it wasn't yet observed, or it was, but primitive people made up a lot of claptrap about it, and then it's maybe supernatural.
If you mean it as purely derogatory, well, I'm deadly serious, and I know you can write much better than that. It will probably need some visionary, who can cut the crap off it and then translate the claptrap as you would say, into a form comprehensible to intelligent, but not very communicative scientists.
For example, here's another amateurish attempt to reconcile the etheric matter with the model of universe. Hopefully some more sophisticated models will be enough for the scientists to start thinking in this direction. I doubt I will be able to follow their thoughts, but I'll try to help as I can.

Actually, I'm not old enough to be a real hippie, and I've never done LSD.  That's all I'm sayin'.

 

Anti-hippy? Whatever you do, then, don't go to Haight-Ashbury. You might level half of San Francisco by accidentally brushing up against a hippy.

I got trapped in a crowd at a hippy jam fest one time.  It was all I could do to keep from taking out half of Arkansas.  Then again... it might have been worth the sacrifice...

 

Your doubts are well founded luminon. To help, by the way, all you need to do is stop presenting claptrap as theory, shut up, and learn how scientific theory works before you open your mouth again on any subject except your ego.

 

Well, just start learning, in fact. What you think of as learning now is something else entirely.

 

Been off the boards for a while but I see on returning that nothing much has changed. The "rational" board still allows for nutcases to interrupt logical discussion and divert threads into "discussions" revolving about their own stupidity instead of the OP's topic.

 

Shame.

See what I mean?

 

All I've ever learnt from you is that fools rarely have the ability to recognise this fact and frequently confuse their foolish assertions with proof, their convoluted assaults on words and their meaning with intelligence, their dangerously inflated sense of their own abilities with how others perceive them, and their delusions with truth.

 

Oh, and they haven't the manners to know when they're being told they're unwelcome intruding in other people's attempts at conducting rational conversation.

 

Actually I didn't strictly learn all this from you at all, it's something I learnt long ago. You simply operate as evidence that this is, sadly, fact. 

The funny thing is, that you can't differ between a fool and a defender of real, but not evident truth. From outer appearance, there is no difference. There were even more foolish things said, like that people will fly, travel to the moon or speak together on great distances. And so there were rational people who opposed these things, because it contradicted everything they knew. How can you prove, that you're any different from those short-sighted antivisionaries? 

You're accustomed to a certain standards, which then requires a specific, optimal form of conversation. But the area of metaphysics is still unresearched by science, this means we lack a fundamental mind tools we otherwise have in areas researched by science. This lack of tools (like a peer review, universally valid laws, etc...) must be taken into account, otherwise the conversation is irrational. It's irrational to demand an universal evidence, when you very well know, that there aren't any. Universal evidence is a luxury, a thing which appears in final stages of research, but here, the research didn't even begin yet. (officially) So don't be like a spoiled child, demanding what you can't yet have. To begin, the research needs a preparatory work, and also a lot of good will.
I proposed a principles of optimal, thus truly rational conversation on this kind of topics  here.


No problem, this is what the world should realize long ago, but finally I found it backupped by a scientist, so I hope in more attention for that truth. Suddenly, this idea is not an utopia or communism, but an inevitable and necessary transformation of economy on a non-growth regime. But as you see, our politics rather throws away hundeds of milliards of dollars and euro to save this dead system, while these money could already permanently solve some of global problems. From that is obvious how human lives are worthy to them. Good old Kali goddess with her human sacrifices is almost a philanthropist, compared to the evil cult of money worshipping, which deliberately lets 2 milliards of people to starve.