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Faith in Jesus works for me - it's exciting. I love the Bible and believe all of it - though there is mystery. There is mystery everywhere though, right? I am a incredibly happy believer in Jesus. I'm not a theologian, I just believe in Jesus.
I understand you can't make anybody believe in Jesus and the Bible, and I don't personally try to do that. But I highly recommend it from my experience with it. I can't get enough of the Bible or Jesus. I can't imagine trying to navigate through life without it at this point in my life.
I don't think Jesus or God is a thing you can prove to somebody. I heard about it a large percentage of my life and it didn't mean anything to me until a certain point - then that all changed.
So do you guys think that I'm fooling myself, not really happy, you don't believe me, or do you really think I can't be as happy or enlightened as you - are you evangelistic in that sense or what? What is the purpose of this site? Do you have something better to offer? If so, what is your gospel?
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I'm going to watch the video you have linked here (provided it's not more than 10-15 min), and would you mind watching this one. (This is the one I wanted to link to originally but I got the wrong one) Evolution vs God documentary
I didn't link to a video and if you are going to learn anything it will take you much longer than 10-15 minutes. If you are only willing to put 15 minutes of effort into a subject you will be forever ignorant. Although, if you are only willing to put in 15 minutes of effort that explains why you are willing to eat up Comfort's bullshit which relies on his audience being extremely ignorant.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
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Offline Fonzie wrote:Be,
I'm going to watch the video you have linked here (provided it's not more than 10-15 min), and would you mind watching this one. (This is the one I wanted to link to originally but I got the wrong one) Evolution vs God documentary
I didn't link to a video and if you are going to learn anything it will take you much longer than 10-15 minutes. If you are only willing to put 15 minutes of effort into a subject you will be forever ignorant. Although, if you are only willing to put in 15 minutes of effort that explains why you are willing to eat up Comfort's bullshit which relies on his audience being extremely ignorant.
Be,
The people being interviewed in the video don't seem that ignorant, but - hey, ... your choice. Maybe you could answer the questions? Your link is members only and I'm not a member.
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Offline Beyond Saving wrote:Fonzie wrote:Be,
I'm going to watch the video you have linked here (provided it's not more than 10-15 min), and would you mind watching this one. (This is the one I wanted to link to originally but I got the wrong one) Evolution vs God documentary
I didn't link to a video and if you are going to learn anything it will take you much longer than 10-15 minutes. If you are only willing to put 15 minutes of effort into a subject you will be forever ignorant. Although, if you are only willing to put in 15 minutes of effort that explains why you are willing to eat up Comfort's bullshit which relies on his audience being extremely ignorant.
Be,
The people being interviewed in the video don't seem that ignorant, but - hey, ... your choice. Maybe you could answer the questions? Your link is members only and I'm not a member.
Michael Moore's videos appear very credible too. There is a lot you can do in the editing room just by choosing what to include and what not to include. I gave you a link to where you can find the answers to his questions. If you are looking for an answer that can be spit out in a 15 second sound byte you aren't going to find it because it doesn't exist, the world isn't that simple.
All you need to join JSTOR is to give them an email address and setup a password. Then you can search for whatever topic interests you. For example, you can search "evolution" and you will find numerous journal articles recording various finds among fossils and attempts to piece together how everything happened. Absolutely every claim will be supported by evidence and have various footnotes on exactly where you would go to physical evidence that has been found first hand. Like I said, it isn't a topic I find that interesting, but the information is there for you if you want to be an expert. Newer articles will sometimes cost money, but for a topic like evolution there will be thousands of articles that are 10+ years old available for free.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
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Fonzie wrote:It's a very dangerous GPS to be led by the weather of feelings (my emph) rather than the Word of God as illuminated by the Holy Spirit and seen through the eyes of faith.
Tell us how G-d speaks to you, Fonzie. When you read the bible to you feel closer to him, do you feel a warm sense of belonging, do you feel loved by god? What is love? How do you identify it happening to you?
What other way is there to know god but by one's personal feelings? There's precious little external conversation going on, even you must agree.
And what is the 'illumination of the holy spirit' if not an upwelling of feelings? A stirring of emotion? A strong sense (feeling) in your heart (limbic system) that what you are reading in the bible is 'true'?
I have to say this line "seen through the eyes of faith" is rather silly. What it really means is that you read biblical assertions with eager preparedness to believe them for the sake of the continuity of your dogma.
Anyway. Hope you are well and happy, Fonzie. Glad to see your thread hasn't jumped the shark.
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God is able to use random events to individually speak/communicate to any one of his children? How is that? As is normal for this Thread; this sort of topic has the potential of branching off into any number of distinct directions (Fonzie is the limiting factor though). So, You dont turn purple, I am sure Fonzie means well. I will throw it out there. One analogy I find very fascinating is what you see in the Japanese Pachinko parlors are widespread in Japan there is a view (not to lawyer this too much) that randomness is governable by the deity. If you get a chance look up what the machines are like, cascading silver balls, it is quite the picture of randomness. Most religious people are very fatalistic according to the perceptions of others on this board, you'd find. It's why you'd see ex-minister often ask, which he has on many many occasions (take my word for it), specifically asked people if they believed anything random ever happened? In the re-runs of the American Series: The X-Files. Scully and Mulder, had an episode of that Original Airdate I could look up but don't honestly care to. I can if need be. Anyhow, It's on/bout a killer who is guided by numerology and the influence by omen like events, in the fictional television series. It particularly featured Burt Reynolds (actor), of Smokey and the Bandit fame, where he was a deity like figure around this serial-killer, in the series. His episode, was (again) he (the Bandit) played a devil-like nebulous figure who had some unnatural obsession with the killer's approach to killing. It was portrayed where he was able to perfectly predict where and when he would strike next. Many people have filed through here only hinting at how god can own and freely manipulate seemingly random events, with considerable mastery. Independent of whether a person would personally find it true or false or argued it to be beyond the ability of human perception to definitively tell . . .
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Though her name's "temporary",
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Offline Fonzie wrote:Beyond Saving wrote:Fonzie wrote:Be,
I'm going to watch the video you have linked here (provided it's not more than 10-15 min), and would you mind watching this one. (This is the one I wanted to link to originally but I got the wrong one) Evolution vs God documentary
I didn't link to a video and if you are going to learn anything it will take you much longer than 10-15 minutes. If you are only willing to put 15 minutes of effort into a subject you will be forever ignorant. Although, if you are only willing to put in 15 minutes of effort that explains why you are willing to eat up Comfort's bullshit which relies on his audience being extremely ignorant.
Be,
The people being interviewed in the video don't seem that ignorant, but - hey, ... your choice. Maybe you could answer the questions? Your link is members only and I'm not a member.
Michael Moore's videos appear very credible too. There is a lot you can do in the editing room just by choosing what to include and what not to include. I gave you a link to where you can find the answers to his questions. If you are looking for an answer that can be spit out in a 15 second sound byte you aren't going to find it because it doesn't exist, the world isn't that simple.
All you need to join JSTOR is to give them an email address and setup a password. Then you can search for whatever topic interests you. For example, you can search "evolution" and you will find numerous journal articles recording various finds among fossils and attempts to piece together how everything happened. Absolutely every claim will be supported by evidence and have various footnotes on exactly where you would go to physical evidence that has been found first hand. Like I said, it isn't a topic I find that interesting, but the information is there for you if you want to be an expert. Newer articles will sometimes cost money, but for a topic like evolution there will be thousands of articles that are 10+ years old available for free.
Be,
Since you have studied evolution and the roots have gone deep and the plant has grown strong, what is your "now" application and your "fueled hope" in this evolution - other than shielding yourself against the seed of the Word of God ? If you have a productive application of evolution to daily life and an explanation of why we are here and where we are going I want to hear it.
By simple observation I don't see anything or anybody "evolving" - but...did I miss something? No house or body is on an upward evolving trend - in fact; quite the opposite. The greatest efforts toward "maintenance free"... fail ! Can you mention anything that is maintenance free let alone evolving upward ? What then is your faith in: pontificating professors?
You might mention it takes a billion years give or take a few million. Why invest in the impossible, how does that apply ? In contrast, "It is Finished!" meaning, the mystery of Salvation in Christ planned before the world was created is READY...NOW! It applies to here and now from beginning to non-ending eternity with God.
The Word of God is like a "Time Machine" you only need faith in God to operate. Through the "eyes of faith" and the Word of God you can travel back to the beginning and have a front row seat at creation. You can go to the end and get a glimpse of heaven.
And you can get a God's View of now : eternal life is KNOWING JESUS CHRIST (Who Has Risen and can be entertained as promised Guest in your heart if you believe in HIM) .
There is a devil prowling like a roaring lion trying to take it away or keep it away (question, would he use a theory like evolution?). Don't blow the eternal life you could have for a bowl of soup (like the example of Esau).
The bottom line is this: The WORD OF GOD, JESUS, AND GOD all apply to EVERYTHING - PAST, PRESENT AND ETERNAL FUTURE. It's not "pie in the sky in the by and by" as mocked by those who don't know or receive the Seed of the Word of God --- but do receive the false seeds of evolutionary nothingness, emptiness, and irrelevance.
The vexing question is: why would the duped stay duped (?) when a Savior is near? Why would the trapped stay trapped (?) when freedom is offered? Why would the slave continue to serve the tyrant (?) when the KING OF KINGS has held the tyrant and his minions up to open shame and won the hearts of His subjects with understanding - taking their debt willingly, ready to receive them instantly as friends, no parole, for the joy set before Him enduring the cross, despising the shame? The dupes of the false security evolution summarily then refuse the joy He has won - and love the lie of their master, thinking (?), "it can't get any better than this"??? Ah, the sedative of the liar's lies.
But then ok, what is the "application" and describe the "better" if it is real and applicable to you: the joys of evolution / the application of evolution / the destiny of evolution / the life perspective and inspiring hope of evolution
What are the chances there are real answers of substance ?
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Since you have studied evolution and the roots have gone deep and the plant has grown strong, what is your "now" application and your "fueled hope" in this evolution - other than shielding yourself against the seed of the Word of God ? If you have a productive application of evolution to daily life and an explanation of why we are here and where we are going I want to hear it.
I haven't studied evolution. I have at best a layman's knowledge of it. Perhaps you missed the part where I said I don't find the topic interesting.
By simple observation I don't see anything or anybody "evolving" - but...did I miss something?
By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.
No house or body is on an upward evolving trend - in fact; quite the opposite. The greatest efforts toward "maintenance free"... fail ! Can you mention anything that is maintenance free let alone evolving upward ? What then is your faith in: pontificating professors?
Are you suggesting that humans are maintenance free?
You might mention it takes a billion years give or take a few million. Why invest in the impossible, how does that apply ? In contrast, "It is Finished!" meaning, the mystery of Salvation in Christ planned before the world was created is READY...NOW! It applies to here and now from beginning to non-ending eternity with God.
I don't know, why do you invest in the impossible?
The Word of God is like a "Time Machine" you only need faith in God to operate. Through the "eyes of faith" and the Word of God you can travel back to the beginning and have a front row seat at creation. You can go to the end and get a glimpse of heaven.
I agree, it is like a time machine. It takes you back to a time when humans were ignorant, had no understanding of the world and believed in things like witchcraft, sorcery and explained everything they couldn't understand by inserting a deity. I enjoy studying history more than the next guy, but I don't know why anyone would want to go back and live in those times.
And you can get a God's View of now : eternal life is KNOWING JESUS CHRIST (Who Has Risen and can be entertained as promised Guest in your heart if you believe in HIM) .
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you aren't going to live forever. Your "maintenance free" body is failing and when it goes, so do you.
There is a devil prowling like a roaring lion trying to take it away or keep it away (question, would he use a theory like evolution?). Don't blow the eternal life you could have for a bowl of soup (like the example of Esau).
I like soup.
The bottom line is this: The WORD OF GOD, JESUS, AND GOD all apply to EVERYTHING - PAST, PRESENT AND ETERNAL FUTURE. It's not "pie in the sky in the by and by" as mocked by those who don't know or receive the Seed of the Word of God --- but do receive the false seeds of evolutionary nothingness, emptiness, and irrelevance.
Tell god to keep his seed to himself. He isn't my type.
The vexing question is: why would the duped stay duped (?)
I agree. Why do you stay duped? I guess because "it works for me".
But then ok, what is the "application" and describe the "better" if it is real and applicable to you: the joys of evolution / the application of evolution / the destiny of evolution / the life perspective and inspiring hope of evolution
I think it is better to deal with reality than live a fantasy, even if that fantasy is attractive. Just a personal preference, nothing else. If you prefer to live believing a fantasy, be my guest.
What are the chances there are real answers of substance ?
100%
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
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Fonzie wrote:Be,
Since you have studied evolution and the roots have gone deep and the plant has grown strong, what is your "now" application and your "fueled hope" in this evolution - other than shielding yourself against the seed of the Word of God ? If you have a productive application of evolution to daily life and an explanation of why we are here and where we are going I want to hear it.
I haven't studied evolution. I have at best a layman's knowledge of it. Perhaps you missed the part where I said I don't find the topic interesting.
Fonzie wrote:By simple observation I don't see anything or anybody "evolving" - but...did I miss something?
By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.
Fonzie wrote:No house or body is on an upward evolving trend - in fact; quite the opposite. The greatest efforts toward "maintenance free"... fail ! Can you mention anything that is maintenance free let alone evolving upward ? What then is your faith in: pontificating professors?
Are you suggesting that humans are maintenance free?
Fonzie wrote:You might mention it takes a billion years give or take a few million. Why invest in the impossible, how does that apply ? In contrast, "It is Finished!" meaning, the mystery of Salvation in Christ planned before the world was created is READY...NOW! It applies to here and now from beginning to non-ending eternity with God.
I don't know, why do you invest in the impossible?
Fonzie wrote:There is a devil prowling like a roaring lion trying to take it away or keep it away (question, would he use a theory like evolution?). Don't blow the eternal life you could have for a bowl of soup (like the example of Esau).
I like soup.
Fonzie wrote:The bottom line is this: The WORD OF GOD, JESUS, AND GOD all apply to EVERYTHING - PAST, PRESENT AND ETERNAL FUTURE. It's not "pie in the sky in the by and by".
Tell god to keep his seed to himself. He isn't my type.
Fonzie wrote:The vexing question is: why would the duped stay duped (?)
I agree. Why do you stay duped? I guess because "it works for me".
Fonzie wrote:But then ok, what is the "application" and describe the "better" if it is real and applicable to you: the joys of evolution / the application of evolution / the destiny of evolution / the life perspective and inspiring hope of evolution
I think it is better to deal with reality than live a fantasy, even if that fantasy is attractive. Just a personal preference, nothing else. If you prefer to live believing a fantasy, be my guest.
Fonzie wrote:What are the chances there are real answers of substance ?
100%
In the words of the immortal Groucho (the Marx brothers), See Image :
It says : Who are you going to believe, me or your own lying eyes ?
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I haven't studied evolution. I have at best a layman's knowledge of it. Perhaps you missed the part where I said I don't find the topic interesting.
Then why do you believe in the lie you haven't studied? I believe in the Truth that has been revealed to me.
By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.
If you relied on simple faith, you would know the One who makes the world spin. Your physical senses may not be good, but with jesus your spiritual senses can be perfect.
Are you suggesting that humans are maintenance free?
Of course not. We are constantly in need of repair, and jesus signed the Service Contract with his life.
I don't know, why do you invest in the impossible?
Only god can do the impossible, so an investment in jesus pays infinite dividends.
I agree, it is like a time machine. It takes you back to a time when humans were ignorant, had no understanding of the world and believed in things like witchcraft, sorcery and explained everything they couldn't understand by inserting a deity. I enjoy studying history more than the next guy, but I don't know why anyone would want to go back and live in those times.
Yet you believe in the witchcraft and sorcery of science, instead of the Truth that makes any professor look ignorant.
It's like the Musketeers storming the Alamo and freeing the Eskimos, who then turned on their liberators and blighted their potatoes.
Tell god to keep his seed to himself. He isn't my type.
If you choose to go to the Eternal Pokey instead, you'll get all types of seed -- and not much soap.
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Quote:I haven't studied evolution. I have at best a layman's knowledge of it. Perhaps you missed the part where I said I don't find the topic interesting.Then why do you believe in the lie you haven't studied? I believe in the Truth that has been revealed to me.
Fonzie wrote:By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.If you relied on simple faith, you would know the One who makes the world spin. Your physical senses may not be good, but with jesus your spiritual senses can be perfect.
Quote:Are you suggesting that humans are maintenance free?Of course not. We are constantly in need of repair, and jesus signed the Service Contract with his life.
Quote:I don't know, why do you invest in the impossible?Only god can do the impossible, so an investment in jesus pays infinite dividends.
Quote:I agree, it is like a time machine. It takes you back to a time when humans were ignorant, had no understanding of the world and believed in things like witchcraft, sorcery and explained everything they couldn't understand by inserting a deity. I enjoy studying history more than the next guy, but I don't know why anyone would want to go back and live in those times.Yet you believe in the witchcraft and sorcery of science, instead of the Truth that makes any professor look ignorant.
It's like the Musketeers storming the Alamo and freeing the Eskimos, who then turned on their liberators and blighted their potatoes.
Quote:Tell god to keep his seed to himself. He isn't my type.If you choose to go to the Eternal Pokey instead, you'll get all types of seed -- and not much soap.
ZARA,
MISTAKE OR INTENTIONAL? You say I wrote, "By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't that good. Fortunately science does not rely on simple observation". This is not a quote from me.
Are you so desperate to hang on to evolution that you have to misquote? Maybe you've misquoted the people who have proposed evolution.
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MISTAKE OR INTENTIONAL? You say I wrote, "By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't that good. Fortunately science does not rely on simple observation". This is not a quote from me.
Are you so desperate to hang on to evolution that you have to misquote? Maybe you've misquoted the people who have proposed evolution.
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Offline Fonzie wrote:Note the "Poe" in the subject of his post. The entire post was satire. He's been doing a lot of these, lately, and it's likely you (ironically) missed it.ZARA,
MISTAKE OR INTENTIONAL? You say I wrote, "By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't that good. Fortunately science does not rely on simple observation". This is not a quote from me.
Are you so desperate to hang on to evolution that you have to misquote? Maybe you've misquoted the people who have proposed evolution.
Rob,
I haven't seen any Zara posts that claim to actually quote me... in which then he goes ahead and says anything he wants to say. If he did that you're right I missed it. I don't see the "Poe" thing as a magic stone giving him license to frame an actual misquote of me, throw arrows and firebrands and death and then say, "I was only joking". He can yuk it up all he wants otherwise but this is not actual humor. It's a desperate distracting lie.
The elephant in the room is this: that evolution has no application to life nor does atheism. You can laugh nervously or obliviously about that... and "Poe" about it knowing all the time you can't apply either one to successful everyday life and death and living, why we are here, where we are going, what we should be doing about it, what this real "help" is you propose for your fellow man and what substantive reason propels it a lifetime of said non existent help. It appears to be an emotional connection you have here to these religions: atheism, evolution and what you think you want.
But, hey - there's nothing wrong with the seed - it will grow, but it does need to be received deeply rather than emotionally rejected. It looks like if you believed in something that has no application you'd be suspicious, but, HEY! POE! DULL FROE!
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Offline haven't seen any Zara posts that claim to actually quote me... in which then he goes ahead and says anything he wants to say. If he did that you're right I missed it. I don't see the "Poe" thing as a magic stone giving him license to frame an actual misquote of me, throw arrows and firebrands and death and then say, "I was only joking". He can yuk it up all he wants otherwise but this is not actual humor. It's a desperate distracting lie.
It would be a lie, except he posted (Poe) right in the subject line. You do know what Poe's Law is, right?
The elephant in the room is this: that evolution has no application to life nor does atheism.
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T0 :: The 0P Not making a decision to buckle down and to be taken seriously is .. what ? Still a decision!!
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You just can't fake this kind of pig ignorance (even if you tried).
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Offline neither Mephibosheth nor Fonzie wrote:By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.
ZARA,
...And no atheist or evolutionist has given a logical application of those "billion year dream faiths" to: life, death, where we came from and why we are here, where we are going, a standard of right and wrong, what true "help" of fellow man is (this vague "helping of fellow man has been vaguely referred to and purposely left vague) - and how your faith motivates pursuing a lifetime of this undefined "help".
Without the comfortable harbor of blasphemy and slander and assumed demolition of the Word of God (WHICH WILL REMAIN TRUE AND INTACT AND THOROUGHLY FULFILLED IN ITS ENTIRETY) which answers and supplies all these - and much more) the atheist and evolutionist hangs in the air like smoke from a spent fireworks display.
These things of substance haven't appeared because they don't exist. And that's no Poe.
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Offline zarathustra wrote:neither Mephibosheth nor Fonzie wrote:By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.
ZARA,
...And no atheist or evolutionist has given a logical application of those "billion year dream faiths" to: life, death, where we came from and why we are here, where we are going, a standard of right and wrong, what true "help" of fellow man is (this vague "helping of fellow man has been vaguely referred to and purposely left vague) - and how your faith motivates pursuing a lifetime of this undefined "help".
Without the comfortable harbor of blasphemy and slander and assumed demolition of the Word of God (WHICH WILL REMAIN TRUE AND INTACT AND THOROUGHLY FULFILLED IN ITS ENTIRETY) which answers and supplies all these - and much more) the atheist and evolutionist hangs in the air like smoke from a spent fireworks display.
These things of substance haven't appeared because they don't exist. And that's no Poe.
Lol, I find it amusing when trolls leap around. It is kind of like watching a bad magician who thinks they are fooling you with their misdirection.
If, if a white man puts his arm around me voluntarily, that's brotherhood. But if you - if you hold a gun on him and make him embrace me and pretend to be friendly or brotherly toward me, then that's not brotherhood, that's hypocrisy.- Malcolm X
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Fonzie wrote:zarathustra wrote:
neither Mephibosheth nor Fonzie wrote:By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.
ZARA,
...And no atheist or evolutionist has given a logical application of those "billion year dream faiths" to: life, death, where we came from and why we are here, where we are going, a standard of right and wrong, what true "help" of fellow man is (this vague "helping of fellow man has been vaguely referred to and purposely left vague) - and how your faith motivates pursuing a lifetime of this undefined "help".
Without the comfortable harbor of blasphemy and slander and assumed demolition of the Word of God (WHICH WILL REMAIN TRUE AND INTACT AND THOROUGHLY FULFILLED IN ITS ENTIRETY) which answers and supplies all these - and much more) the atheist and evolutionist hangs in the air like smoke from a spent fireworks display.
These things of substance haven't appeared because they don't exist. And that's no Poe.
Lol, I find it amusing when trolls leap around. It is kind of like watching a bad magician who thinks they are fooling you with their misdirection.
Perhaps the OP can ask for Beyond to provide some useful links to Journals online on 20th Century Cosmology, I would think ? A thought; no a prerequisite. Instead of your (the OP's) recent release of-unlearned *pigeon droppings (See: Pic), in the form of Pseudo-proses. try to understand there being an allusion to what happened in the case of the Antenna, pre-GPS.
Hint Scientific Visual *allusion, ties in nicely S E E :: Image
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It's me keeping it positive (with this).
Please be aware, I should expect no future infliction of reprisals for posting this. It looks like the OP has left the building. Please except this in the spirit in which it is intended.
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On a program back in 2005, featuring a panel of New Agey authors, Oprah said, ''.. she does not think God is "hung up" on what we believe about Him. "Whatever that force is, it doesn't care what you call it. He doesn't have an ego problem." She went on to say, "I believe in the FORCE. I call it God."
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One Concerned Citizen says . .
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Celebrity Winfrey's take
Not to comment so much on any of Miss Winfrey's claims or her personally held beliefs. But I thought we should point out this vital information, as a point of clarification. Oprah is quoted to have said, more recently : ''I'm insanely blessed, but luck had nothing to do with it. I installed my awesome (end quote)''
An eight year old could have found this Online in less than say 15 minutes . . .
p.s. -- Note the subject-line's title : 60 year old Padawan (Star Wars) . . investing in 'ME'¬ish, apparently.
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Offline Fonzie wrote:zarathustra wrote:neither Mephibosheth nor Fonzie wrote:By simple observation you don't see the world spinning either. Our physical senses aren't all that good. Fortunately, science doesn't rely on simple observation.
ZARA,
...And no atheist or evolutionist has given a logical application of those "billion year dream faiths" to: life, death, where we came from and why we are here, where we are going, a standard of right and wrong, what true "help" of fellow man is (this vague "helping of fellow man has been vaguely referred to and purposely left vague) - and how your faith motivates pursuing a lifetime of this undefined "help".
Without the comfortable harbor of blasphemy and slander and assumed demolition of the Word of God (WHICH WILL REMAIN TRUE AND INTACT AND THOROUGHLY FULFILLED IN ITS ENTIRETY) which answers and supplies all these - and much more) the atheist and evolutionist hangs in the air like smoke from a spent fireworks display.
These things of substance haven't appeared because they don't exist. And that's no Poe.
Lol, I find it amusing when trolls leap around. It is kind of like watching a bad magician who thinks they are fooling you with their misdirection.
Be,
I think you know the "leaping" is from your projector not my answer. You notice no atheist has "jumped in" and offered answers to why we are here, where we are going, a standard of right and wrong, what represents true "help" of fellow man and what fuels said help. Again, they haven't appeared because in the atheist heart these things don't exist. It is tragic they don't because the spark and fire of faith is close at hand, in the heart and within sight of faith in Christ lifted up. You don't have to go looking for it on the earth or under the earth or in hell or heaven or on CNN. The good news is here: God has sheathed His sword in the LORD'S side at the threshing floor of Ornan. Divine Justice has been satisfied and the Price Paid for all who will come to God in Christ. God is willing and able to save all who come to Him trusting in His Sacrifice. Salvation is by Grace - it's a gift in other words, the gift of God. But you have to come to Him in Christ. Why are you intent on not doing that?
But a totally different road is this: to come up with your own sacrifice and trust in it. Or, you could just deny meaning and purpose, origin, destiny, design, creation, purpose, evil, the devil, demons, the Power of God, Christ's Sacrifice, the Holy Spirit, Heaven, Hell - all together... and nervously joke and distract and mock and blaspheme and "muddy the waters" concerning the fact that atheists are totally missing one of two sets of books. They try to keep the one of clay while denying the spiritual - the eternal one, the main one. Won't you be eternally insanely mad you have been tricked, taken, hoodwinked, asleep at the switch, blown out of the water, blindsided, sucker-punched, caught up in a current of the worst sin of all: unbelief... Not only caught up but determined to hold on and encourage unbelief, inspire unbelief, compose and ignite unbelief. And when asked what you, the atheist are all about, what makes you tick if you tick - you can't tick it out or poe it out. Remember, tick represents time. You have time now to get it right. It's called repentance - to think differently. The gospel has the power to bring it about.
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Be, .. [the] eternally insanely mad you have been tricked, taken, hoodwinked, asleep at the switch, blown out of the water, blindsided, sucker-punched, caught up in a current of the worst sin of all: unbelief.
Let it 'Be'. Not about the comment I quoted, but as an aside . . .
T0:: The OP In and for all you do . . .
"God is not mocked" "God is not mocked", cryptic reference. Wow, this isn't open mike night on the hill Fonzie!! If you were a female I'd remind you of the '' imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit''. Have you tried miming the Good News ? During this time of year, in North America, it shouldn't be difficult to pick up the mime makeup. Beautiful things can be expressed, even if unspoken (,mainly using signs and gestures to communicate), a thought! Then Upload us some images.
When you done playing digital missionary; Tell us a story about angels (when you can) . . . .
Hebrews XIII
Heb. XIII -- "Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels. Remember the prisoners as if chained with them—those who are mistreated since you yourselves are in the body also. God will judge. Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things` as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” So we may boldly say: “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear. What can man do to me?” Remember . . Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever"
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Offline Like a naughty, venereal sore,
The Old Troll always comes back for more.
But this time It despairs,
For It sees no one cares,
And it's time to just close up the store.
There are no theists on operating tables.
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Offline Like a naughty, venereal sore,
The Old Troll always comes back for more.
But this time It despairs,
For It sees no one cares,
And it's time to just close up the store.
Zara,
You can certainly expound on the venereal sores and be the go - to guy/girl on that... I cite that as "exhibit A" when it comes to "jumping around" (et. al. beyond saving), throwing up a distraction (albeit remaining pious in posture) - yet avoiding any discussion of atheist substance as applied to life, life's meaning, life's worth or life's debt and the inability of one to pay said debt of life thereof or help relieve a fellow debtor and what poe form that relief would take.
Hearing none, I conclude:::::::: atheists to be the BIGGEST LOSERS.
I want to pay tribute to their hard work in this (it hasn't come easy) - their untiring dedication and devotion to corporate apathy, their vigilance to avoid and fight off any atom's worth thought of consciousness of design (any old fool could have let that slip in - but not yawl), their constant generation of meaningless 3D non-thought, irrelevant picture pasting, creative distortion and vile spinning cyclorama. Still I can't leave out the black hole that represents their false view of their own faith in nothingness and yet the determination to not admit its existence, to even think pink elephant about it - no, it's a full armor of vacuum we're dealing with here - a vacuum shield.
So this award, BIGGEST LOSERS, I give you - for one and all. You've earned it, fought for it, brought it home for the team to display in the store, you've gimped it, so enjoy, it's yours - for indeed.... it's NOTHING!
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Hearing none, I conclude:::::::: atheists to be the BIGGEST LOSERS.
I want to pay tribute to their hard work in this (it hasn't come easy) - their untiring dedication and devotion to corporate apathy, their vigilance to avoid and fight off any atom's worth thought of consciousness of design (any old fool could have let that slip in - but not yawl), their constant generation of meaningless 3D non-thought, irrelevant picture pasting, creative distortion and vile spinning cyclorama. Still I can't leave out the black hole that represents their false view of their own faith in nothingness and yet the determination to not admit its existence, to even think pink elephant about it - no, it's a full armor of vacuum we're dealing with here - a vacuum shield.
So this award, BIGGEST LOSERS, I give you - for one and all. You've earned it, fought for it, brought it home for the team to display in the store, you've gimped it, so enjoy, it's yours - for indeed.... it's NOTHING!
Okay, thanks for grieving for our lost souls. We all appreciate your heartfelt "concern". You had at it and failed miserably, now continue to follow your theological dictates ( Matthew 10:14 ) and metaphorically shake the dust of your feet and consign us to our terrible fate ( Hebrews 10:31 ). It's on our heads now ....shove off.
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Try not to cut off your nose to spite your face (Sir Troll) 
Let all calm down, when we get the chance (tehe)
Why dont you tell us that story about an angel now ? No, no takers??? How about a story about a demoness, Read Upload --
From the Ramayana in the Mahabharata (the Reader's Digest version, more than a actual translation) See Uploaded Image ::
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Offline Re :: Disappointing, how very disappointing (sigh) . . .
zarathustra wrote:
Like a naughty, venereal sore,
The Old Troll always comes back for more.
But this time It despairs,
For It sees no one cares,
And it's time to just close up the store.
Zara,
You can certainly expound on the venereal sores and be the go - to guy/girl on that... I cite that as "exhibit A" when it comes to "jumping around" (et. al. beyond saving), throwing up a distraction (albeit remaining pious in posture) - yet avoiding any discussion of atheist substance as applied to life, life's meaning, life's worth or life's debt and the inability of one to pay said debt of life thereof or help relieve a fellow debtor and what poe form that relief would take.
Hearing none, I conclude:::::::: atheists to be the BIGGEST LOSERS.
I want to pay tribute to their hard work in this (it hasn't come easy) - their untiring dedication and devotion to corporate apathy, their vigilance to avoid and fight off any atom's worth thought of consciousness of design (any old fool could have let that slip in - but not yawl), their constant generation of meaningless 3D non-thought, irrelevant picture pasting, creative distortion and vile spinning cyclorama. Still I can't leave out the black hole that represents their false view of their own faith in nothingness and yet the determination to not admit its existence, to even think pink elephant about it - no, it's a full armor of vacuum we're dealing with here - a vacuum shield.
So this award, BIGGEST LOSERS, I give you - for one and all. You've earned it, fought for it, brought it home for the team to display in the store, you've gimped it, so enjoy, it's yours - for indeed.... it's NOTHING!
Wee little one, Is it so great a thing to ask to get to know who you are talking to in the first place?!?? All this does is both prove and show how little you care about people in general. But, You've proven you never did want to bother with people. Hey, No skin off your nose, huh lazy ?!?!??
Live in harmony with one another, being of the same mind towards one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.
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Hearing none, I conclude:::::::: atheists to be the BIGGEST LOSERS.
I want to pay tribute to their hard work in this (it hasn't come easy) - their untiring dedication and devotion to corporate apathy, their vigilance to avoid and fight off any atom's worth thought of consciousness of design (any old fool could have let that slip in - but not yawl), their constant generation of meaningless 3D non-thought, irrelevant picture pasting, creative distortion and vile spinning cyclorama. Still I can't leave out the black hole that represents their false view of their own faith in nothingness and yet the determination to not admit its existence, to even think pink elephant about it - no, it's a full armor of vacuum we're dealing with here - a vacuum shield.
So this award, BIGGEST LOSERS, I give you - for one and all. You've earned it, fought for it, brought it home for the team to display in the store, you've gimped it, so enjoy, it's yours - for indeed.... it's NOTHING!
Okay, thanks for grieving for our lost souls. We all appreciate your heartfelt "concern". You had at it and failed miserably, now continue to follow your theological dictates ( Matthew 10:14 ) and metaphorically shake the dust of your feet and consign us to our terrible fate ( Hebrews 10:31 ). It's on our heads now ....shove off!!
>Exclusively to the accepted in the beloved, (almost anyway), the 0P ::
If you're done with your limited assessments based solely on this thread alone.
>Direct link :: http://www.scripturesongsforworship.com/2012/06/12-who-can-understand-his-errors-me.html
Or,
YouTube ? Try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWN1CvaMtYk&list=PL1AC19848DC3D2AEF&index=4
Psalm 19:12-14 Song "Who Can Understand His Errors?" (Christian Scripture Praise Worship w/ lyrics) - YouTube
(NOT exclusive to only those who cannot make distinctions)!
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In order to have a debate you would have to offer a cogent point. I'm not going to hold my breath. Nor am I going to offer you an education on evolution, I'm not a professor and don't enjoy teaching-especially subjects I don't find particularly interesting. You are a google search away from literally thousands of scientific journals which painstakingly record physical evidence of evolution.
Here, start with this
http://www.jstor.org/
they allow access to many such journals for free. Then you might be capable of holding an intelligent conversation on the topic. But go have it with someone else because I don't give a flying fuck about evolution, the topic bores me. That is why the topic I was talking about was the history of the Taj Mahal, which has nothing to do with evolution.
Be,
I'm going to watch the video you have linked here (provided it's not more than 10-15 min), and would you mind watching this one. (This is the one I wanted to link to originally but I got the wrong one) Evolution Vs God