Pure Trollery: Homosexuals actually prove God's existence [Trollville]
Offline Bare with me. I was watching a show called 30 days, I guess the same fellow who wrote "Super-Size me" is the writer/director of this show. Anyway they had this straight guy live with a gay guy in the SF are for a month. After watching the show I had an epiphany. If natural selection is driven by survival of the fittest, that would have to mean that only healthy males that were capable of reproducing(and did) would survive. right? I've heard from many atheists say that homosexuality is natural and doesn't violate natural laws since animals have also been known to exhibit homosexual behavior. Now, if our only purpose in the world is to reproduce and promote our offspring, and we are merely "selfish genes" how can one validate Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection with regards to homosexuality? This would have to mean that Evolution, to some degree, is wrong. To say I'm wrong in my assertion would mean that homosexuality is a genetic-mutation, or some illness or flaw. Now, this doens't really mean that this proves God is real, but it doesn't help Darwinists at all.
"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning..." -CS Lewis
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Jesus fucking Christ, you're insufferable.
Jesus fucking Christ, you're insufferable.
Guys I have red hair, which is genetic, and according to AngelEngine that's a birth defect or maybe even a disease!
I didn't know there was even anything wrong with my hair but now I know it's a defect, is there a support group I can go so I can meet other survivors of red hair? Maybe even some sort of treatment or cure I can get for this debilitating genetic disease?
Götter sind für Arten, die sich selbst verraten -- in den Glauben flüchten um sich hinzurichten. Menschen brauchen Götter um sich zu verletzen, um sich zu vernichten -- das sind wir.
Yeah! And you know who else had red hair? Judas Escariot! You are so totally going to hell.
No; red-hairness is a condition you'll just have to learn to live with, like wrong-handedness, non-tallness, tongue-rolling incapability, attached-earlobeness, non-mid-digital-hairness and widows'-peaklessness. It'll be an uphill battle, but with the proper headwear or bleach and dye, you should be able to lead a relatively normal life.
I mean, there's nothing WRONG with red-hairness; hell, some of my best friends have red hair. But when you get tired of being treated as a second class citizen, or denied health benefits, or ousted from your family, or killed because of your hair colour, just make up your mind to have brown hair, like most of us.
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maybe if this sig is witty, someone will love me.
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i can't dye all my hair, and my leg and arm hair is so light you can hardly see it
if i just dye my head hair people will still see through my ruse! oh god this is terrible
Götter sind für Arten, die sich selbst verraten -- in den Glauben flüchten um sich hinzurichten. Menschen brauchen Götter um sich zu verletzen, um sich zu vernichten -- das sind wir.
Well, I was hoping to post in this thread without bringing my personal situation into it, but as we're all Atheists and that at least is a personal thing that is brought into all the discussions, perhaps it becomes relevant that I am gay.
I never suggested that homosexuality is a birth defect. I don't belive I'm defected nor do I believe that anyone else who so happens to be homosexual is defected. I never made any statements about bisexual, omnisexual, tanssexual or any other kind of sexuality. This was intentional. I believe numberous studies have found that sexual desire is rarely absolute, even in those that report to be only homosexual or only heterosexual.
What exactly would be the debilitating disease of homosexuality? I never alluded to this. I believe it's clear that homosexuality is genetic, a development in utero, or a combination of both. Sexuality in and of itself is often complicated by social factors. Stop spouting bullshit. Stop spouting insulting bullshit and don't dare suppose you know what homosexuals ABSOLUTELY hate to be branded with. You show me the numbers of homosexuals who have 'turned' straight, and then you tell me how I might do it, so that I don't have to live as a member of a minority hated by the greater percentage of the world's population, threatened with violence, made fun of, sneered at, or humiliated everyday. Perhaps all the Atheists who have turned theist contradict the claims of Atheists? Perhaps Atheists can be helped to see that the theist position really is the one true way? What you've written is so stupid! Lastly, people don't 'become' homosexuals!
And don't claim ad hominem on me, I happen to know better than you what constitutes an ad hominem; my arguments were solid despite calling out the ignorant moron I responded to. And now I'm calling you out.
If you find my post hostile, it is. I'm pissed off with people assuming they know something about which I am intimately acquainted with for every day of my life. I'm open to conjecture about the causes of homosexuality, but I certainly won't have someone suggest that choice may play a role, much less an important one. There is no therapist who will help me to see that indeed women are sexually attractive and that I should want to have intimate sexual and emotional relationships with them.
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I also happen to be red-headed, left-handed and rather short among other minority traits. Perhaps I'm just an extremely diseased person? How unfortunate for this to be compounded by Atheism and Homosexuality. Let us hope I'll live to a decent age with all the maladies I suffer.
BigUniverse wrote,
"Well the things that happen less often are more likely to be the result of the supper natural. A thing like loosing my keys in the morning is not likely supper natural, but finding a thousand dollars or meeting a celebrity might be."
If you think the goal is to present a homogeneous front for atheism, you're missing the whole point of rejecting dogma. Discussion is fruitful... it's better than sitting in a room with like-minded people nodding to each other about how neato god is.
I don't have time to read all these responses ,but go get and read the book "Sperm Wars" by Robin Baker which explains the evolutionary mechanisms behind homosexuality.